2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

[trojanfan12]

Come on.....he used something that was not even used in much of that era to a coach needing to know Xs and Os. Xs and Os have been used in any era.

want to tell me Phillip is a great coach for his ability to handle people? Have at it. But he could have done far better than that absurd analogy.

You're arguing minutiae. Just because there may be better analogies, doesn't mean the one used didn't work. Literally everyone else who read the post, understood the point.

Again, the point wasn't whether or not 3's were used that much. Even if they were, it's not likely that Kareem would have been shooting many. But he would still have been a great player.

Phil knew that, while he did know X's and O's, that wasn't his strength, so he had Tex Winter to handle that. His greatest strength was managing egos. So that's where he focused most of his energy (and with Shaq and Kobe, he probably didn't have time for much else. lol).

 

[dtgold88]

You're arguing minutiae. Just because there may be better analogies, doesn't mean the one used didn't work. Literally everyone else who read the post, understood the point.

Again, the point wasn't whether or not 3's were used that much. Even if they were, it's not likely that Kareem would have been shooting many. But he would still have been a great player.

Phil knew that, while he did know X's and O's, that wasn't his strength, so he had Tex Winter to handle that. His greatest strength was managing egos. So that's where he focused most of his energy (and with Shaq and Kobe, he probably didn't have time for much else. lol).

and my point is it's important for the HC to know something about Xs and Os (at least to be considered elite of the elite). Not important a 7-2 guy be able to hit 3s, especially playing without the 3 pointer.

In the earlier discussion we were comparing Phillip and larry Brown. You think Phillip has the stones to take up some of the challenges Brown did? I believe had he been able to bring in a couple elite players to the Knicks magically he might have found he was ready to coach again.

 

[trojanfan12]

In the earlier discussion we were comparing Phillip and larry Brown. You think Phillip has the stones to take up some of the challenges Brown did? I believe had he been able to bring in a couple elite players to the Knicks magically he might have found he was ready to coach again.

Well, he kind of did take a Larry Brown challenge.

He came back to the Lakers when they had Kobe and guys like Smush Parker and Kwame Brown (who had arguably the best seasons of his career and still wasn't very good lol).

Bynum eventually emerged as an all star caliber player (after Kobe ripped him in the off-season) and they were able to trade for Pau. But that Lakers team he took over was nowhere near championship ready.

Having said that, I will add that he went to the Lakers while Dr. Buss was still alive and they had The Logo, so he probably had a pretty good idea that they'd get him the pieces he needed.

 

[tlance]

and my point is it's important for the HC to know something about Xs and Os (at least to be considered elite of the elite). Not important a 7-2 guy be able to hit 3s, especially playing without the 3 pointer.

In the earlier discussion we were comparing Phillip and larry Brown. You think Phillip has the stones to take up some of the challenges Brown did? I believe had he been able to bring in a couple elite players to the Knicks magically he might have found he was ready to coach again.

There is no comparison between Phil Jackson and Larry Brown. None.

And your assumption that Phil doesn’t know Xs and Os is also ignorant.

What is next? Are you going to say that Bill Belicek isn’t a great football coach because he doesn’t call the plays?

The head coach’s job is to maximize the talents of his staff and players to create the best possible team. Phil Jackson was an absolute master of doing just that. And the fact that he delegated offensive and defensive coordinator duties to assistants does not make him less great of a head coach.

Because it worked to near perfection. And he still had a lot of very important big picture responsibilities to keep some very high maintenance egos in check.

 

[dtgold88]

There is no comparison between Phil Jackson and Larry Brown. None.

And your assumption that Phil doesn’t know Xs and Os is also ignorant.

What is next? Are you going to say that Bill Belicek isn’t a great football coach because he doesn’t call the plays?

The head coach’s job is to maximize the talents of his staff and players to create the best possible team. Phil Jackson was an absolute master of doing just that. And the fact that he delegated offensive and defensive coordinator duties to assistants does not make him less great of a head coach.

Because it worked to near perfection. And he still had a lot of very important big picture responsibilities to keep some very high maintenance egos in check.

Agree no comparison. One coach likes ready made title contenders. The other prefers challenges. One has never won a title without arguably the best player in the game on his bench (maybe the best 2) and the other has.

Now you double down and make more absurd analogies? Belichick is behind the scheme in NE. You were the one who made the Xs and Os comments not mattering so much in LA/Chicago. Does Bill Belichick have a Tex winter who designed his defense and has been with him every year he had success, or does Bill maybe lose OCs and DCs every year and keep things humming?

another fail......You are pure comedy.

 

[tlance]

Agree no comparison. One coach likes ready made title contenders. The other prefers challenges. One has never won a title without arguably the best player in the game on his bench (maybe the best 2) and the other has.

Now you double down and make more absurd analogies? Belichick is behind the scheme in NE. You were the one who made the Xs and Os comments not mattering so much in LA/Chicago. Does Bill Belichick have a Tex winter who designed his defense and has been with him every year he had success, or does Bill maybe lose OCs and DCs every year and keep things humming?

another fail......You are pure comedy.

If you say so.

But again, it would be absurd to say Belicek is not a great coach. Absurd.

And are still not getting that I am intentionally bringing up stupid points that are on the same level as saying Phil Jackson wasn’t a great head coach.

Managing egos isn’t easy. And Phil was absolutely the best at that. It is why his teams never seemed to underachieve.

 

[Black Adam]

Lakers.

nope. Bucks. and of course on a team friendly deal. it's everyone FA stop, after all...

 

[dtgold88]

If you say so.

But again, it would be absurd to say Belicek is not a great coach. Absurd.

And are still not getting that I am intentionally bringing up stupid points that are on the same level as saying Phil Jackson wasn’t a great head coach.

Managing egos isn’t easy. And Phil was absolutely the best at that. It is why his teams never seemed to underachieve.

Another chance to own your absurd "logic" and once again I knew you wouldn't. You tried to say BB and Phillip are the same because BB doesn't call plays and that's the same as Phillip not creating and running the triangle.

But thanks for the laugh. This one might be more foolish than your last analogy, which I didn't think could be topped.

Bravo.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Feel bad for GH....

 

[DJ Fieri]

Have a great day everybody.

 

[DJ Fieri]

https://sportshoop.la/betting-exchange/lakers-vs-raps.6745/

 

[Black Adam]

I don't know.

I think we need a buck-Alice vs. Wiggy thread.

we can call it the stupidity octagon....

 

[Wamu]

I don't use them for that exact reason. Too hard to control the dose.

I think it was the 3rd edible I ever had, I literally couldn't move for like 2 hours.

Haven't touched an edible since. lol

Rookie.

 

[msgkings322]

I don't use them for that exact reason. Too hard to control the dose.

I think it was the 3rd edible I ever had, I literally couldn't move for like 2 hours.

Haven't touched an edible since. lol

It's now extremely easy to control the dose. I was the same, overdid it my first time bc I didn't know how much was enough. Now you can go in 5 mg increments. It's safer too, I only vape and edible now

 

[msgkings322]

Not likely with a sprain. If it's a break or a stress reaction (like Kuzma had), those can be tricky. But sprains are usually pretty straight forward.

Even a high ankle sprain, which is about as bad as a sprain gets, isn't likely to cost a guy 39 games.

Not a doctor either, but I have a lot of personal experience with all kinds and degrees of sprains.

I once sprained an ankle so bad that the doctor told me that I would have almost been better off breaking it. lol That one cost me 6 weeks.

But the Cavs were shooting for ping pong balls (just like the Warriors are), so it was in their best interest to have him miss as many games as possible.

I think the biggest difference here is that the Warriors came out and said that he likely wouldn't be playing this year and the Cavs never did that with TT, which was smart, imo.

No one on the Ws said that, some guy quoted a "source"

He probably plays a little this year.

 

[buckalis]

Jokic is big, Jokic has extremely high basketball IQ, Jokic can long shoot the ball... but Jolic is fat, he is slow and athletic bigs with equally high basketball IQ have him for breakfast...

 

[buckalis]

you cant "tank" by sitting out perfectly healthy players for weeks and weeks in a row.

Nobody is tanking in the league anymore... It's pointless, costs large amount of income lost to the teams that (used to) do it and makes no difference in the draft after the lottery rules changed.

 

[tlance]

Another chance to own your absurd "logic" and once again I knew you wouldn't. You tried to say BB and Phillip are the same because BB doesn't call plays and that's the same as Phillip not creating and running the triangle.

But thanks for the laugh. This one might be more foolish than your last analogy, which I didn't think could be topped.

Bravo.

No.

I did not say they were the same.

I said it would be equally stupid to declare that either was not a great head coach.

No matter how you try to spin it, you are still wrong.

 

[Heatles84]

Jokic is big, Jokic has extremely high basketball IQ, Jokic can long shoot the ball... but Jolic is fat, he is slow and athletic bigs with equally high basketball IQ have him for breakfast...

Starting naming them.

 

[Wamu]

Starting naming them.

Oh shit now you dun it. He's gonna put you on ignore.