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2019-20 Quest for the cup(The Carter Hart era begins)

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Have they really played a good solid game since the round robin? I haven't seen it fortunate to get by les habs like that.
No they haven't, and we got by the Habs because Hart has been the only one playing playoff hockey and showing up consistently.
 

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I think it’s time to move Laughton back to the TK Hayes line. Not because he has been good but that’s the only group he’s played with in the bubble where he actually looked good. No confidence on the puck right now.
Either that or presser and give JVR a shot with some talent although who knows if he has any balls left. I'd be pissing vinegar after sitting out of the playoffs but none of them care. Ghost hasn't been bad though so I'll lay off him.
 

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Either that or presser and give JVR a shot with some talent although who knows if he has any balls left. I'd be pissing vinegar after sitting out of the playoffs but none of them care. Ghost hasn't been bad though so I'll lay off him.
Ghost would be effective if you can get him away from Braun, unfortunately Myers and Sanheim haven't been stellar either. This whole team seems to be skating in quicksand. Time to step up or step out.
 

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As an example. The Avs were chasing game 1 most of the game..

Makar - 27:26
MacKinnon - 24:14
Landeskog - 22:18
Rantanen - 23:12
Girard - 22:46

That’s how you push for goals. Not..

Provorov - 22:18
Sanheim - 21:43
Giroux - 15:42
Couturier - 16:35
Voracek - 14:33

I’ll let it slide that Hayes/TK had more ice time (~17 minutes). They had more jump and have talent. But if that’s your choice, ride them! 17 minutes is still pittance.
 

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Ghost would be effective if you can get him away from Braun, unfortunately Myers and Sanheim haven't been stellar either. This whole team seems to be skating in quicksand. Time to step up or step out.

Sanheim and Myers have been pretty good to me. They just aren’t activate enough offensively. Take the shackles off. Let them go for it.
 

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No they haven't, and we got by the Habs because Hart has been the only one playing playoff hockey and showing up consistently.
Agree. Hart is the main reason why the Flyers are in this spot. He gives us a fighting chance.
 

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The regular season is when you send messages by cutting playing time for extended periods. In the playoffs, cut it once, message sent. Then ride the hell out of them. These guys are your only chance.
 

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Agree. Hart is the main reason why the Flyers are in this spot. He gives us a fighting chance.
That kid made so many saves to keep these turds in it. One go would have turned the tide. Just no push like awaz said.
 

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The regular season is when you send messages by cutting playing time for extended periods. In the playoffs, cut it once, message sent. Then ride the hell out of them. These guys are your only chance.
I agree but at this point what do you do to get the top guys going, you can't just keep hoping. It sucks that this is where we are lol.
 

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That kid made so many saves to keep these turds in it. One go would have turned the tide. Just no push like awaz said.
The kid is mentally tough which he needs to be. He will bounce back, but it's the team in front of him that needs to step up.
 

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The kid is mentally tough which he needs to be. He will bounce back, but it's the team in front of him that needs to step up.
He doesn't seem phased by any of it, he's bounced back after every bad game, like you said though the rest of the team is selling this kid out.
 

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I agree but at this point what do you do to get the top guys going, you can't just keep hoping. It sucks that this is where we are lol.

Unfortunately, they have to. I’d play Giroux, Couturier, and Voracek at least 23-24 minutes on Wednesday. Hayes and TK around 20.

They will lose this series if those 5 guys don’t produce. Might as well give them as much time to produce as you can. Hart isn’t going to get 2 shutouts/series all the way to the cup.
 

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At least you’ve got the avs, Bacon. Their game is entertaining hockey.
 

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At least you’ve got the avs, Bacon. Their game is entertaining hockey.
Yep, they came out just like they should, they've been pushing the play and Dallas is reeling. I think they were rusty in game 1, see if they can keep the pace.
 

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Unfortunately, they have to. I’d play Giroux, Couturier, and Voracek at least 23-24 minutes on Wednesday. Hayes and TK around 20.

They will lose this series if those 5 guys don’t produce. Might as well give them as much time to produce as you can. Hart isn’t going to get 2 shutouts/series all the way to the cup.
Love to see this happen and these guys wake up.
 

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Love to see this happen and these guys wake up.

Only other option to me is to blow up the lines completely. See if anything sticks. Mix Pitlick and NAK in with the stars. They’ll bring energy every shift. Consider dressing Frost. He’s the most offensively talented they have in the bubble that hasn’t played. (Not really advocating that considering he hasn’t played in like 6 months)
 

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Yep, they came out just like they should, they've been pushing the play and Dallas is reeling. I think they were rusty in game 1, see if they can keep the pace.

Man, MacKinnon is so fun.
 

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Only other option to me is to blow up the lines completely. See if anything sticks. Mix Pitlick and NAK in with the stars. They’ll bring energy every shift. Consider dressing Frost. He’s the most offensively talented they have in the bubble that hasn’t played. (Not really advocating that considering he hasn’t played in like 6 months)
AV did blow up the lines somewhat he's trying. Had G off the top line for a bit but maybe too many moves as Laughton also dropped down but deservedly so. Maybe put TK back up with Couts and G. They are familiar and adds some speed. Jake with Hayes and Farabee or get Laughton or even JVR back up there to get going. This is where you need Lindblom. I think Raffl is best on the third line add some spunk.

D is tough as Ghost at least moves the puck he's been ok. Hard to split up the rest the D hasn't been horrible it's zero offense that hurts more.
 

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Alright. Enough negativity. They’re only down 1-0. If they can repeat their 2nd period with some regularity, the goals and wins will come.

Let’s go Flyers.
 

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Alright. Enough negativity. They’re only down 1-0. If they can repeat their 2nd period with some regularity, the goals and wins will come.

Let’s go Flyers.
Consider it constructive criticism as we simply want our team to play to their potential! I haven't liked their game since the round robin it's baffling as I thought that they were over this kind of play. Was hoping maybe they had first round jitters but was worried this would happen going into today's game. You are right let's keep cool as they normally bounce back.
 
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