• Have something to say? Register Now! and be posting in minutes!

2017 Roster

es4m11

Well-Known Member
2,920
330
83
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Location
Charm City
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
So do you think any key FA will gladly sit around on a promise by Jerry just so they can wear the star? You yourself said this team is close but here you are willing to wait for FA leftovers and IFFA to fill the roster. Think about it, the team was 11/12M over without numerous key players from last season counting against the cap. I'm truly at a loss how you came to the conclusion only ONE contract had to be redone?

Who said anything about making key free agents wait? I'm specifically talking about guys like Brice Butler, Jack Crawford, Kellen Moore and maybe Jonathan Cooper. I don't view any of these guys as key free agents, I would like to have them back for the right price under the right circumstances, but they are expendable and replaceable.

With the cap space currently available, $10-11m, I would identify 2-3 targets to go hard for straight out of the gate. I would look for a CB and a SS early on in FA. I like Logan Ryan. Dallas might want to bring back Carr and Church? And could possibly do so for around $9-10m. Tender David Irving with the ERFA @ $615,000 and wrap it up until 6/2.

As far as how would I propose to make it through the off season with only one contract restructure? Simple, restructure all of Frederick's allowable base salary, Dallas would have about $4-5m in cap space now instead of $11ish. The Cowboys would not have been signing anyone in free agency outside of the fringe guys. Dallas would be building through the draft, again. In the summer, with the Romo money off the books, sign the draft class and I would be looking for any possible late cap casualty/cuts I could possibly upgrade the team with. Probably would take a little step back from last year, but the core of the team is still in place. The reason I would like to do this is because I hope to see Dallas get most of the huge potential dead money cap hits off the books in the next 2-3 years, not create new ones. The next several years are going to be VERY expensive for the Cowboys, with a lot of Premium talent coming up for contracts. I'm thinking down the road, I want to see the Cowboys have the financial flexibility to be able to retain all of these young stars. If Dallas keeps restructuring big contracts at the rate they do, every few years we are going to be talking about the latest cap casualty causing cap complications - like Ware before, and Romo now. In 5 years time, I want all of Martin, Elliott, Prescott, Byron Jones to still be Cowboys and it's going to take flexibility to be able to make that happen. And if it means having to move on from a guy like 30+ year old Tyron Smith a year or two before his contract is set to expire, I would prefer it if Dallas had the flexibility to do so.
 
Last edited:

Manster7588

I Support Law Enforcement.
46,219
13,563
1,033
Joined
Jul 17, 2013
Location
Las Vegas, NV 89129
Hoopla Cash
$ 920.85
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Who said anything about making key free agents wait? I'm specifically talking about guys like Brice Butler, Jack Crawford, Kellen Moore and maybe Jonathan Cooper. I don't view any of these guys as key free agents, I would like to have them back for the right price under the right circumstances, but they are expendable and replaceable.

With the cap space currently available, $10-11m, I would identify 2-3 targets to go hard for straight out of the gate. I would look for a CB and a SS early on in FA. I like Logan Ryan. Dallas might want to bring back Carr and Church? And could possibly do so for around $9-10m. Tender David Irving with the ERFA @ $615,000 and wrap it up until 6/2.

As far as how would I propose to make it through the off season with only one contract restructure? Simple, restructure all of Frederick's allowable base salary, Dallas would have about $4-5m in cap space now instead of $11ish. The Cowboys would not have been signing anyone in free agency outside of the fringe guys. Dallas would be building through the draft, again. In the summer, with the Romo money off the books, sign the draft class and I would be looking for any possible late cap casualty/cuts I could possibly upgrade the team with. Probably would take a little step back from last year, but the core of the team is still in place. The reason I would like to do this is because I hope to see Dallas get most of the huge potential dead money cap hits off the books in the next 2-3 years, not create new ones. The next several years are going to be VERY expensive for the Cowboys, with a lot of Premium talent coming up for contracts. I'm thinking down the road, I want to see the Cowboys have the financial flexibility to be able to retain all of these young stars. If Dallas keeps restructuring big contracts at the rate they do, every few years we are going to be talking about the latest cap casualty causing cap complications - like Ware before, and Romo now. In 5 years time, I want all of Martin, Elliott, Prescott, Byron Jones to still be Cowboys - it's going to take flexibility to be able to make that happen.

I'd like to know where you get the 10-11M in cap space, again all reports are as of right now the team has very little cap space as they are just under the 2017 cap and that's with two contracts being redone.

Maybe it's time we agree to disagree, since you obviously know more than reporters who's jobs are to dig up info and report on it.
 

Bmurph

F the Houston Astros
27,570
2,464
173
Joined
Jul 2, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Agent's Take: How the Jets, Chiefs and Cowboys can navigate cap crunch
Tony Romo could wind up clearing cap space for both the Chiefs and Cowboys



Free agency begins March 9 when the 2017 league year starts. This gives NFL teams a little more than two weeks to get their books in optimal shape for the league’s annual signing frenzy.

Contract restructurings, pay cuts and player cuts take center stage during the earliest part of the offseason. A contract restructuring is different from a pay cut. In a typical restructuring, a player will convert some portion of his base salary or roster bonus (without reducing salary) into signing bonus because it can be prorated or spread out evenly over the life of a contract (most other salary components usually can’t be prorated) for a maximum of five years. The team gets a lower cap number in the current season while the player gains more short-term security.

When a player is released or traded, the remaining proration of the salary components that are treated like signing bonus immediately accelerate into his team’s current salary cap. There are two major exceptions to this general rule of bonus proration accelerating. Only the current year’s proration counts toward the cap with players released or traded after June 1. The bonus proration in future contract years is delayed until the following season.

A team can also release two players each year prior to June 1 (known as a post-June 1 designation) that will be treated under the cap as if they were released after June 1. With a post-June 1 designation, a team is required to carry the player’s full cap number until June 2 even though he is no longer a part of the roster. The player’s salary comes off the books at that time unless it is guaranteed.

NFL teams were informed at a December league meeting that the 2017 salary cap is preliminarily projected to be between $166 million and $170 million. The 2017 salary cap will be finalized before the end of the month or early March. It has been set at the high end of projections or slightly over in recent years.

Below is a look at the three teams with the worst salary cap situations heading into the free agency assuming a $168 million salary cap. All teams must be must become compliant with the salary cap when the new league year begins. In the offseason, only the top 51 cap numbers count on the cap. Tenders for restricted free agents and exclusive rights players with expiring contracts, which mostly haven’t been made yet, and adjustments for earned incentives have been included in each team’s calculations in order to give a more complete cap picture.

1. New York Jets
Projected salary cap overage: $2.76 Million
Team needs: QB, LT, CB, Edge rusher
Key unrestricted free agents: OT Ryan Clady , QB Ryan Fitzpatrick , TE Kellen Davis , OT Ben Ijalana
Potential restricted free agent tenders: TE Brandon Bostick , C Wesley Johnson , CB Marcus Williams, all at $1.808 million

A disappointing 5-11 season in 2016 has created a sense urgency for coach Todd Bowles and general manager Mike Maccagnan. Since surviving another season like 2016 will be difficult for the duo, expect a lot of work to be done to the roster. It’s already begun with $10 million of cap space picked up by declining the option on Ryan Clady’s 2017 contract.


SPONSORED BY OLD NAVY
Neo-Nautical
Nautical themes are key to this month's overall look, mix and match stripes with your favorite pair of colorful denim.

Next season’s starting quarterback probably wasn’t with the team in 2016. Ryan Fitzpatrick isn’t expected back after a lackluster season in which he was benched and only regained his starting job after a season-ending knee injury to Geno Smith , who is also a free agent. 2015 fourth-round pick Bryce Petty didn’t make a good case for being the quarterback of the future when given the opportunity to play. 2016 second-round pick Christian Hackenbergis a project. He was inactive for every game except the season finale, in which he did not play.

There may be plenty of experienced veteran quarterbacks available as free agents, through trade or by release. These could include Jay Cutler , Colin Kaepernick , Tony Romo and Tyrod Taylor . An intriguing younger option may be Mike Glennon , who has barely played since the Tampa Bay Buccaneerstook Jameis Winston with the first overall pick in the 2015 NFL Draft. To land Glennon on a short-term contract, however, it will likely take more than top money for a shot to compete to start, which is currently $7 million to $7.5 million per year with incentives and salary escalators that could make a deal worth as much as $12 million per year.

The legal troubles of Darrelle Revis complicate matters for the Jets. An alarming decline in play had the Jets contemplating moving the NFL’s preeminent shutdown cornerback for the last several years to safety with a renegotiated deal. This was before he was charged with four felony counts for his alleged involvement in a street fight in Pittsburgh a little over a week ago.

darrelle-revis.jpg

The Jets may try to recoup guaranteed salary from Darrelle Revis. USATSI
Parting ways with Revis may become more appealing. There is $6 million of Revis’ $13 million 2017 base salary that is fully guaranteed. Revis is also due a $2 million roster bonus on March 10, the second day of the league year. His salary cap number is $15,333,333.

The incident has potentially jeopardized Revis’ guarantee. Most NFL contracts contain language allowing for guarantees to void with a suspension under league policies -- substance abuse, performance-enhancing drugs and personal conduct -- or for conduct detrimental to the team and other things, such as retirement or withholding services. Some contracts have a general catch-all provision where a player engaging in conduct that adversely affects or reflects poorly on the team voids a guarantee. Revis has this type of language in his contract.

The Jets trying to invalidate Revis’ guarantee would surely result in the NFLPA filing a grievance on his behalf. Cutting the 31-year-old corner before his roster bonus is due without trying to escape the guarantee would leave the Jets with a $7 million cap charge for him where $8,333,333 of cap room would be gained.

Other older veterans could also be salary cap casualties. Releasing inside linebacker David Harris , wide receiver Brandon Marshall and center Nick Mangold would create $7.5 million, $9.075 million and $6.5 million of cap space.

A change in scenery may be best for 2013 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year Sheldon Richardson since the Jets have one too many quality 3-4 defensive ends. The Jets shopped the talented-but-troubled Richardson before last season’s trading deadline. The first-round pick the Jets reportedly were seeking for Richardson is probably out of the question because of a subpar 2016 season and his well-documented off-field issues. Moving Richardson would wipe his $8.069 million fifth-year option salary from the books.
 

Bmurph

F the Houston Astros
27,570
2,464
173
Joined
Jul 2, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
2. Kansas City Chiefs
Salary cap room projection: $1.757 Million
Team needs: ILB, WR, DL, CB
Key unrestricted free agents: S Eric Berry , NT Dontari Poe
Potential restricted free agent tenders: K Cairo Santos , S Daniel Sorenson, WR Albert Wilson, all at $1.808 million

The Chiefs are a legitimate Super Bowl contender, and that championship window may drive offseason decisions. Safety Eric Berry is the free agent the Chiefs can least afford to lose. He wants to remain in Kansas City but recently stated he isn’t going to play under a franchise tag again. Berry sat out most of last preseason before finally signing his franchise tender in late August. A second franchise tag for Berry will be $12,967,200, which is 120 percent of his $10.806 million 2016 franchise tender.

The expectation was that the five-year, $51.25 million extension that Harrison Smith signed with the Minnesota Vikings last June would pave the way for a deal with Berry. Tyrann Mathieu’s subsequent five-year extension with the Arizona Cardinals averaging $12.5 million per year will be a hurdle to signing Berry long-term. Berry’s camp will view Mathieu’s contract as the new benchmark for safeties over Smith’s instead as a hybrid defensive back deal. Being the lone safety to earn first-team All-Pro honors in each of the last two seasons only helps Berry’s cause.

Nose tackle Dontari Poe could price himself out of Kansas City. He might be the most coveted interior defensive lineman to hit the open market. The expectation is the Carolina Panthers will franchise Kawann Short . Poe not only clogs the middle of the defense but also demonstrated some pass rush ability prior to being plagued by back issues. He may look for a contract comparable to the six-year, $85.5 million contract (worth a maximum of $90 million through salary escalators) containing $42 million in guarantees that the Jacksonville Jaguars gave Malik Jackson in free agency last offseason.

dontari-poe.jpg

Kansas City may not be able to afford Donatri Poe. USATSI
Inside linebacker is probably going to be addressed. Dont’a Hightower will be the best free agent available if the New England Patriots don’t put a franchise tag on him for close to $15 million. He is going to be in the high-rent district. The four-year deal averaging $12.5 million per year ($26.4 million fully guaranteed) that former teammate Jamie Collins recently signed to remain with the Cleveland Browns after a midseason trade will be an important salary data point for Hightower.

The Buffalo Bills ’ Zach Brown and the Cardinals’ Kevin Minter will be more affordable. They may view their salary floor as the $8 million per-year average of the unrestricted free agent years that Brandon Marshall gave up last June when he signed a five-year deal with the Denver Broncos as a restricted free agent.

The Chiefs can’t to do anything without creating cap room. Backup quarterback Nick Foles is the easiest source. The Chiefs can gain $10.75 million of cap space by passing on Foles’ option year. The emergence of Spencer Ware and persistent knee problems should make Jamaal Charlesexpendable, and cutting him would create $6,187,500 of cap room.

Andy Reid recently reiterating his confidence in Alex Smith hasn’t stopped speculation that he’ll be out of a job because of Tony Romo. Should the Chiefs change plans, $9.7 million of cap room will be gained by walking away from Smith’s $16.9 million cap number and next season’s unguaranteed $13.3 million salary. A short-term Romo deal could be easily structured with a 2017 cap number significantly less than Smith’s cap savings.


SPONSORED BY SIGNSOFPANCREATICCANCER.ORG
Early Colon Cancer Signs You Must Know About
Don’t let pancreatic cancer go unnoticed. View this list of early pancreatic cancer symptoms that you must not ignore.

3. Dallas Cowboys
Salary cap room projection: $4.51 Million
Team needs: Pass rusher, CB, WR
Key unrestricted free agents: CB Brandon Carr , CB Morris Claiborne , S Barry Church , OG Ronald Leary , WR Terrence Williams
Potential restricted free agent tenders: None

The Cowboys had a $12.8 million cap overage before engaging in an annual restructuring of contracts to free up cap space, which pushes cap obligations into the future. According to ESPN.com’s Todd Archer, $17.32 million of cap room was freed up Monday with adjustments to the contracts of offensive tackle Tyron Smith and center Travis Frederick . Smith’s cap number goes from $15.8 million to $8.82 million while Frederick’s drops from and $14.871 million to $4.531 million. This means Smith converted $8.725 million of his $10 million base salary to signing bonus while $12.925 million of Frederick’s $14.221 million base salary is now bonus money. It’s the third straight year Smith has restructured his contract for cap purposes.

Other restructurings could be on the way. Dez Bryant has the biggest 2017 cap hit for a wide receiver at $17 million. The Cowboys could pick up slightly more than $8 million of cap room from a Bryant salary conversion where $12.1 million of his $13 million base salary becomes signing bonus.

Determining how best to move on from longtime starting quarterback Tony Romo is a pressing matter. Romo would prefer for Dallas to release him so he would be free to choose his next destination instead of trading him. The Cowboys might not be able to get more than a mid-round draft pick for Romo, who turns 37 in April, anyway, given his age and his injury history.

romo.jpg

Try to trade Tony Romo or released him? The Cowboys must choose. USATSI
The Cowboys will have a $19.6 million cap charge for Romo relating to the bonus proration in his 2013 extension and subsequent contract restructurings for cap purposes in 2014 and 2015 if he is released or traded prior to June 2. A total of $5.1 million of cap room would be gained immediately.

The cap hit would be taken over 2017 and 2018 with either one of these transactions occurring after June 1 or releasing Romo with a post-June 1 designation. Dallas would have $10.7 million of dead money in 2017, which would free up $14 million of cap space. Romo would remain on the Cowboys’ books in 2018 with an $8.9 million cap charge.

The secondary surprisingly was a strength of the defense in 2016. The defensive backfield could have a much different look next season because retaining Brandon Carr, Morris Claiborne and Barry Church could be difficult.

Ronald Leary isn’t expected back because of La’el Collins, who missed most of the season with a right toe injury, is set to return. Right guard Zack Martinshould receive a contract extension before the 2017 season that should set a new salary standard for guards. Any deal Martin signs will need to be salary cap neutral in the first year with a huge spike in salary in the second year like Frederick’s.

Finding a pass rusher either in free agency or the draft is a top priority. Randy Gregory has been a disappointment. The 2015 second-round pick struggled as a rookie. Most of last season was lost because of repeated violations of the NFL’s substance abuse policy. Gregory was recently hit with another suspension under this policy, which will prevent him from playing for at least a year.

Pass rushers are paid a premium on the open market. Olivier Vernon’s five-year, $85 million contract with the New York Giants containing $52.5 million in guarantees is going to be a target for good free-agent pass rushers. San Diego Chargers outside linebacker Melvin Ingram , Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and Green Bay Packers outside linebacker Nick Perry have expiring contracts. Paying significant money to a free agent pass rusher will be virtually impossible unless the contract is structured like Carr’s was when he signed as a free agent. Carr had a very low cap number in 2012, which jumped significantly in other years of the contract.
 

es4m11

Well-Known Member
2,920
330
83
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Location
Charm City
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I'd like to know where you get the 10-11M in cap space, again all reports are as of right now the team has very little cap space as they are just under the 2017 cap and that's with two contracts being redone.

Maybe it's time we agree to disagree, since you obviously know more than reporters who's jobs are to dig up info and report on it.

I have laid it out pretty clear a few posts ago. Do the math yourself - or is that too much to ask? Or do you need to be led around by the nose like a dog?

The idea that you put total faith in reporters makes me lol. Have you learned anything from the past year?

And please, provide a link to the story you are quoting. I would like to read it. And I will show you where the author is wrong.
 
Last edited:

UK Cowboy

Happy Father's Day T-Roy
29,986
8,607
533
Joined
Aug 9, 2013
Location
Longview, Texas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1.36
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
It has become SOP for Dallas to do this, as much as I don't like the idea, I've come to expect and accept it.
I don't mind extending guys like TSmith and Fred, who will still be good at the end of the contract. Much better than a player in their 30's getting reworked
 

es4m11

Well-Known Member
2,920
330
83
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Location
Charm City
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
For you @Manster7588, a lot of reading, but please do try and read all of it.

Below are all players with an NFL contract on the Cowboys 2017 roster as of now, with cap hits...

QB: Romo ($24,700,000), Prescott ($635,848) -- $25,335,848
RB: Elliott ($5,671,895), Morris ($2,200,000) -- $7,871,895
FB: K.Smith ($690,000)
WR: Bryant ($17,000,000), Beasley ($4,000,000), Whitehead ($618,000), C.Brown ($465,000) -- $22,083,000
TE: Witten ($12,262,000), Hanna ($3,000,000), Swaim ($628,683) -- $15,890,683
OT: Smith ($8,820,000), Free ($7,500,000), Green ($786,467), Cleary ($615,000) -- $24,701,467
G: Martin ($2,853,391), L.Collins ($623,750), Looney ($850,000) -- $4,327,141
C: Frederick ($4,514,200)
Total: 20
2017 Cap Hit: $98,434,234

DE: Lawrence ($1,752,116), Mayowa ($2,600,000), Tapper ($694,470)
DT: T.Crawford ($10,350,000), M.Collins ($832,788), Thornton ($4,250,000)
OLB: Lee ($12,450,000), Wilson ($731,578), Nzeocha ($631,087), Wilber ($1,750,000)
MLB: Hitchens ($798,716), J.Smith ($1,476,129), Morris ($615,000?
CB: Scandrick ($5,281,021), Brown ($573,736), McFadden ($775,000)
S: Jones ($2,345,984), Heath ($1,921,000), Frazier ($565,000)
Total: 20
2017 Cap Hit: $49,819,978

K: Bailey ($4,000,000)
P: Jones ($1,750,000)
LS: Ladouceur ($1,220,000)
Total: 3
2017 Cap Hit: $6,970,000

43 Players under contract for 2017 at a cost of $155,224,212
2017 Dead Money: $3,051,856

Total 2017 Commitment: $158,276,068

Estimated 2017 Salary Cap: $168,000,000
2016 Rollover Cap: $2,401,553
Estimated 2017 Cap Space: $170,401,553
Current Cap Expenditure: $158,276,068

Remaining 2017 Cap Space: $12,125,485

Now, the above are players with active NFL contracts for 2017, currently on the Cowboy roster. Below are players with 2017 NFL future/reserve contracts - these contracts are not guaranteed, and these players were not on the Cowboys active roster in 2016.

* - denotes reserve/future contract
Rod Smith, RB -- $615,000*
Ryan Seymour, LT -- $615,000*
John Lotulelei, OLB -- $615,000*
Jeremiah George, ILB -- $615,000*
Shaq Evans, WR -- $555,000*
Jeremiah McKinnon, CB -- $540,000*
Kadeem Edwards, G -- $540,000*
Connor Hamlett, TE -- $540,000*
Uzoma Nwachaukwu, WR -- $540,000*
Sammy Seamster, WR -- $540,000*
Clay Debford, OT -- $465,000*
Rico Gathers, TE -- $465,000*
Lenny Jones, DE -- $465,000*
Andy Jones, WR -- $465,000*
Quincy McDuffie, WR -- $465,000*
Jameill Showers, QB -- $465,000*
Duke Thomas, S -- $465,000*
Zach Wood, DE -- $465,000*
Total expense: $8,505,000

Reserve/future contracts are generally reserved for camp bodies and practice squad players. 95% of the guys on the roster with reserve/future contracts will most likely not be on the roster.

The rules regarding reserve/future contracts go like this...
NFL 101: Futures Contracts and the Rule of 51 (start reading at paragraph 5)

Dallas also has two Exclusive Rights Free Agents (EFRA), David Irving and Richard Ash. Those tags come with $615,000 cap hits, if exercised. If Dallas exercises these two tags it will leave them with $10,895,485.

@Manster7588 this is how I came up with about $11 million to spend.



 
Last edited:

jarntt

Well-Known Member
34,524
12,939
1,033
Joined
Aug 19, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
we'll have to agree to disagree. Smith will still be an NFL super star tackle by the end of this deal and the name of the games is winning a championship. I have no issues with restructuring either player cause it's nothing like a Witten, Romo or Carr restructure in my not so humble opinion
Totally agree. Smith is the exact type of player you target to restructure. He is young, on top of his game and has a lot of years left on his deal. Even with these restructures we have yet to push money out into the last year of the contract. In the last couple of years I would be more leery of restructuring him, but right now it's just smart. Yes his back is a concern but I'm guessing the team knows a a lot more about his back issue and feels comfortable with it. There are no guarantees in sports and some "smart" risks must always be taken.
 

jarntt

Well-Known Member
34,524
12,939
1,033
Joined
Aug 19, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Gotcha. I have read a few similar stories, most of them that I have read quote Spotrac and OvertheCap by name. Just looking at the rosters you will see there are several guys who are filling out the top 51 that are on reserve/future contracts that have zero guarantees. Most of these guys will not be on the roster when it matters, but for now, they count against the cap.

Rod Smith, RB -- $615,000
Ryan Seymour, LT -- $615,000
John Lotulelei, OLB -- $615,000
Jeremiah George, ILB -- $615,000
Shaq Evans, WR -- $555,000
Jeremiah McKinnon, CB -- $540,000
Kadeem Edwards, G -- $540,000
James Morris, LB -- $540,000
Connor Hamlett, TE -- $540,000

That comes to a total of $5,175,000

None of these guys mentioned above were on the active roster for Dallas at any point in 2016. They all currently count against Dallas' 2017 salary cap - none of the contracts have any guaranteed money. Dallas can create an additional $5,175,000 as soon as it wants to.

With the money saved from restructuring Smith and Frederick, Dallas can have about as much as $10-11 million to spend prior to 6/1, as needed - barring any further contract restructures.
Sure, we could cut those cheap guys, but unless we are playing with 80% of a team we are likely to fill their spots with much more expensive guys.
 

jarntt

Well-Known Member
34,524
12,939
1,033
Joined
Aug 19, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
As far as backup QB, this just my opinion, I think Kellen Moore will be the 2nd string QB. He was penciled in as backup this past year, and is CHEAP.
I will say I feel a lot more comfortable with Moore as our #2 if our #1 is Dak than when it was Romo. The odds of injury with Dak are low (although of course possible) while with Romo it isn't if, it's when and for how long.
 

Manster7588

I Support Law Enforcement.
46,219
13,563
1,033
Joined
Jul 17, 2013
Location
Las Vegas, NV 89129
Hoopla Cash
$ 920.85
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I have laid it out pretty clear a few posts ago. Do the math yourself - or is that too much to ask? Or do you need to be led around by the nose like a dog?

The idea that you put total faith in reporters makes me lol. Have you learned anything from the past year?

And please, provide a link to the story you are quoting. I would like to read it. And I will show you where the author is wrong.
I did the math, and you're 100% wrong saying only one contract had to be redone. The team is 6M under the projected cap on a team with many spots that has to be filled due to FA's it MUST sign. You can read the 6M under on DallasCowboys.com
Again you are wrong but too stuburn to admit it. 6M will get you what? 3 decent FA's? The money saved when Tony is realeased will give the team money, but by then whats left on the FA market. Ih, thats right some FAs will gladly sut on their asses, and wait just so they can wear the STAR.

By the way had only one contract been redone, the team would NOT yet be under the projected cap.
 

es4m11

Well-Known Member
2,920
330
83
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Location
Charm City
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Sure, we could cut those cheap guys, but unless we are playing with 80% of a team we are likely to fill their spots with much more expensive guys.

Dallas absolutely will. Some of these spots will be filled with rookies. The point being is, Dallas can have as much as $10-11 million to spend prior to 6/1, as-is right now, if they want to. And can fill in whatever small holes remain over the summer with Romo money in their pocket.

A couple guys from the reserve/future list can possibly make the team, I'm not discounting that. Just outlining what is realistically possible.
 

es4m11

Well-Known Member
2,920
330
83
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Location
Charm City
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I did the math, and you're 100% wrong saying only one contract had to be redone. The team is 6M under the projected cap on a team with many spots that has to be filled due to FA's it MUST sign. You can read the 6M under on DallasCowboys.com
Again you are wrong but too stuburn to admit it. 6M will get you what? 3 decent FA's? The money saved when Tony is realeased will give the team money, but by then whats left on the FA market. Ih, thats right some FAs will gladly sut on their asses, and wait just so they can wear the STAR.

By the way had only one contract been redone, the team would NOT yet be under the projected cap.

Read the salary cap rules, then tell me I am wrong. And please, post the article you are referencing. If you're going to point to someone else as to why I am wrong, the reasonable thing would be to post the article. You're only playing "he said she said" right now.

As far as getting it done with only restructuring Frederick, it could be done, the math works. I don;t care what some opinion from a writer says. Writers can be just as wrong as anyone of us.
 

Manster7588

I Support Law Enforcement.
46,219
13,563
1,033
Joined
Jul 17, 2013
Location
Las Vegas, NV 89129
Hoopla Cash
$ 920.85
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Dallas absolutely will. Some of these spots will be filled with rookies. The point being is, Dallas can have as much as $10-11 million to spend prior to 6/1, as-is right now, if they want to. And can fill in whatever small holes remain over the summer with Romo money in their pocket.

A couple guys from the reserve/future list can possibly make the team, I'm not discounting that. Just outlining what is realistically possible.
With the FAs the team coukd lose, there isn't a few small holes. 11/12M covers the draft and 2 maybe 3 FA's. Hitting on 3 draft picks is a good draft, cap wise the team would have to hit in all 7 or hope a few unlikely players emerge from somewhere.
 

es4m11

Well-Known Member
2,920
330
83
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Location
Charm City
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
With the FAs the team coukd lose, there isn't a few small holes. 11/12M covers the draft and 2 maybe 3 FA's. Hitting on 3 draft picks is a good draft, cap wise the team would have to hit in all 7 or hope a few unlikely players emerge from somewhere.

The rookie class does not have to be signed before 6/1, there is no rule stating that. The Romo money should be in the bank by the time it is necessary to sign them. The rookie contracts do not have to come into play with the current $11-12 million available.
 

jarntt

Well-Known Member
34,524
12,939
1,033
Joined
Aug 19, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Dallas absolutely will. Some of these spots will be filled with rookies. The point being is, Dallas can have as much as $10-11 million to spend prior to 6/1, as-is right now, if they want to. And can fill in whatever small holes remain over the summer with Romo money in their pocket.

A couple guys from the reserve/future list can possibly make the team, I'm not discounting that. Just outlining what is realistically possible.
I don't want to quote the long post because what I highlight will get lost. I think you are missing a defender in your post #67.
 

es4m11

Well-Known Member
2,920
330
83
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Location
Charm City
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I will say I feel a lot more comfortable with Moore as our #2 if our #1 is Dak than when it was Romo. The odds of injury with Dak are low (although of course possible) while with Romo it isn't if, it's when and for how long.

Me too. Linehan is a big fan, which is why I suspect Moore will be back.
 

es4m11

Well-Known Member
2,920
330
83
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Location
Charm City
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I don't want to quote the long post because what I highlight will get lost. I think you are missing a defender in your post #67.

I'll double check. Any idea which one?

After checking: looks like I just miscounted. Thanks
 

Manster7588

I Support Law Enforcement.
46,219
13,563
1,033
Joined
Jul 17, 2013
Location
Las Vegas, NV 89129
Hoopla Cash
$ 920.85
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Read the salary cap rules, then tell me I am wrong. And please, post the article you are referencing. If you're going to point to someone else as to why I am wrong, the reasonable thing would be to post the article. You're only playing "he said she said" right now.

As far as getting it done with only restructuring Frederick, it could be done, the math works. I don;t care what some opinion from a writer says. Writers can be just as wrong as anyone of us.
I've said numerous times your wrong in saying only one contract had to be redone. Hell id say another contract will have to be redone before the season starts.
 

jarntt

Well-Known Member
34,524
12,939
1,033
Joined
Aug 19, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
My preference for a FA target would be a pass rusher. The only thing we must address in FA though is CB. When I say must I don't mean where our biggest weakness is, I mean we can't really even field a team without doing so. Be it our own guys or others we cannot go into the draft with neither Mo nor Carr on the team and also without picking up anyone else. Scandrick wasn't the guy he has been (I'm hoping only due to injury) and Brown is very promising, but still young and McFadden is...well I'm not sure what he is. If we resign either Mo or Carr (I'm hoping Mo) then we can see how things go in the draft. I don't think we can afford a top pass rusher, but maybe a 3rd down specialist (I wanted Freeney last year) or perhaps Ware if the numbers can work. We are very close. We just need to strengthen a couple of spots and get a little luck...
 
Top