2016-17 NBA Regular Season Thread

[Robotech]

Yep the least they could have done was replay the possession. That was very unfair. From what I heard, Ross took 2.5 to get the shot off and there were only 2.4 left. There were only two ways to resolve this fairly.

1) Replay the last 2.4 seconds

2) Say fuck it and say the basket is good. Settle the game in OT

Why is Toronto at fault because there was a tool managing the clock? Seriously

To not give them a chance to even replay the possession is correct.

And FTR @Bolts is correct, can't blame the refs for that review. I believe everything excluding flagrants/ejections are now determined in Secaucus

I read that the lead official said that 2.5 seconds elapsed between the tip and Ross's release, but I wonder if they factored in that no timekeeper is capable of starting the clock at the exact same time as the tip because there is human reaction time involved. Even if it were possible, it's wrong to make that basket not count over a 0.1 second difference in the replay measurement. That should not be conclusive enough. There is enough uncertainty there that the shot should've stood.

 

[Heatles84]

He needs occasional days off at his age to make it through an 82 game season. If he plays 68-70 games.....he's worth every penny the Bulls pay him. And it's more important for him to be ready for the postseason than play every game of the regular season.

So why am I paying a soon to be 35-year old SG who's not even going to play the whole season?

And again, given the amount of games missed during his time at Miami particularly in the era I mentioned please tell me why Miami should've given up young assets to appease a soon to be 35-year old SG.

 

[Bolts]

If they called the shot good, the Kings were gonna be pissed.
If they called the shot no good like they did, the Raptors were gonna be pissed.
If they replayed the shot, both sides were probably gonna be pissed because they thought it should have counted or not. It was a lose/lose situation, I guess I'd have gone with the basket being good if I had to choose because it was only .1 off and they still would have been able to play OT to see who wins.
Hopefully this one game doesn't change the Raptors' playoff position at the end of the season(win doesn't mean shit for the Kings who suck).

 

[WiggyRuss]

Kyrie, alone, is much more valuable to the Cavaliers than Russell, Ingram, and Randle would be. But as you mentioned, Russell, Ingram, and Randle are more valuable to the Lakers than Kyrie would be to them. The teams have different objectives. It's kind of silly to even discuss it.

ehhh....i guess it depends...one of the oldest maxims in the NBA is that you dont trade a dollar for 4 quarters. When you have a star in their prime- you just dont trade them. Ingram, Russel, Randle- its possible one of these guys becomes a likely top 10 player in the NBA at some point- however its rather unlikely. Kyrie is 24, and already one of the best in the game. ESPECIALLY when considering his contract- he is one of the most valuable assets in the game. You just dont trade that for uncertainty.

 

[WiggyRuss]

So why am I paying a soon to be 35-year old SG who's not even going to play the whole season?

And again, given the amount of games missed during his time at Miami particularly in the era I mentioned please tell me why Miami should've given up young assets to appease a soon to be 35-year old SG.

i didnt think they should have--- riley is the guy saying he wishes he would have signed dwade to a max extension after the 14 season....i think the heat should have traded away everything not nailed down after bron left- right now they would be in great shape and not owe 2 lightly protected 1st rounders to the Suns and have zero 2nd rounders until the next presidential election (and beyond).

 

[bksballer89]

Good games tonight I see

 

[CitySushi]

Paul George and CJ Miles out tonight for the Pacers against the Warriors. Huge potential for a let down game here for the Warriors. Need to go out and take care of business.

 

[bksballer89]

Paul George and CJ Miles out tonight for the Pacers against the Warriors. Huge potential for a let down game here for the Warriors. Need to go out and take care of business.

No way they lose. Pacers just played a hard fought OT game in OKC last night without PG and Miles. They don't stand a chance.

Dubs by 28

 

[bksballer89]

Heat up 6 spots in the latest power rankings.

Warriors climbing in latest NBA Power Rankings?

 

[knowyourenemy]

ehhh....i guess it depends...one of the oldest maxims in the NBA is that you dont trade a dollar for 4 quarters. When you have a star in their prime- you just dont trade them. Ingram, Russel, Randle- its possible one of these guys becomes a likely top 10 player in the NBA at some point- however its rather unlikely. Kyrie is 24, and already one of the best in the game. ESPECIALLY when considering his contract- he is one of the most valuable assets in the game. You just dont trade that for uncertainty.

I agree with you. From the Lakers perspective, however, if you have three young potential stars, I'm not sure it makes sense to trade them for one player. I won't argue with you over how good Irving is compared to those 3 guys. But, in the hypothetical scenario, would trading those 3 guys for Irving help L.A. get closer to a championship? In the end, they'll need more than one star. They probably like where things are headed with their current core. It wouldn't make sense for them to disrupt that process to bring in Irving if they don't have the other pieces necessary to complement him.

 

[knowyourenemy]

Heat up 6 spots in the latest power rankings.

Warriors climbing in latest NBA Power Rankings?

16th seems high for them. Their impending loss to the 76ers isn't going to help their case.

 

[bksballer89]

16th seems high for them. Their impending loss to the 76ers isn't going to help their case.

It is high but as Stein noted in his comments about them, we have played the toughest schedule in the league this season and Dragic missed a few games.

After a couple narrow losses (by seven points combined) to teams with a composite record of 19-7 (San Antonio and Atlanta), Miami welcomed back Goran Dragic and promptly showed some life with a couple wins. Hassan Whiteside, meanwhile, continues to put up numbers -- against what ESPN's computer ranks as the league's toughest schedule to date -- that have to make him a legit contender to spend All-Star Weekend in New Orleans if this sort of production persists.

 

[knowyourenemy]

It is high but as Stein noted in his comments about them, we have played the toughest schedule in the league this season and Dragic missed a few games.

After a couple narrow losses (by seven points combined) to teams with a composite record of 19-7 (San Antonio and Atlanta), Miami welcomed back Goran Dragic and promptly showed some life with a couple wins. Hassan Whiteside, meanwhile, continues to put up numbers -- against what ESPN's computer ranks as the league's toughest schedule to date -- that have to make him a legit contender to spend All-Star Weekend in New Orleans if this sort of production persists.

I know. I don't really buy it though. I don't think that they end up in the playoffs.

 

[bksballer89]

I know. I don't really buy it though. I don't think that they end up in the playoffs.

I don't think they do either but it is nice to see them being so competitive with the big boys in the league so far this season. I think they finish between 9th and 11th with 35-39 wins.

 

[gordontrue]

Heat have had by far the hardest schedule to date, which makes me think they are probably better than the current perception.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[tducey]

Poor way to end the game for the Raptors last night for sure. Still think the result is what it is now and it probably won't change.

 

[LAD]

I read that the lead official said that 2.5 seconds elapsed between the tip and Ross's release, but I wonder if they factored in that no timekeeper is capable of starting the clock at the exact same time as the tip because there is human reaction time involved. Even if it were possible, it's wrong to make that basket not count over a 0.1 second difference in the replay measurement. That should not be conclusive enough. There is enough uncertainty there that the shot should've stood.

At the very least they should've reset the clock and did that last play over. That's what they would've done had it not been at the end of the game.

 

[LAD]

I agree with you. From the Lakers perspective, however, if you have three young potential stars, I'm not sure it makes sense to trade them for one player. I won't argue with you over how good Irving is compared to those 3 guys. But, in the hypothetical scenario, would trading those 3 guys for Irving help L.A. get closer to a championship? In the end, they'll need more than one star. They probably like where things are headed with their current core. It wouldn't make sense for them to disrupt that process to bring in Irving if they don't have the other pieces necessary to complement him.

Especially when we've already seen Irving as the #1 guy in Cleveland prior to LBJ- and it wasn't pretty.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Ty Lue says he can see growth in Kyrie Irving this season: "I just think he's comfortable. I think last year taking over midway through the season, he didn't know exactly what I wanted. Just talking to him over the summer, talking to him before this season exactly what I wanted from him and what I needed from him and he understands. I think coming back after winning the championship and winning the gold medal, he's so much more mature and understanding the game, understanding his teammates and understanding the work you have to put in to get to that next level. He's been great all season."

Especially when we've already seen Irving as the #1 guy in Cleveland prior to LBJ- and it wasn't pretty.

yah thats like blaming Russell for how bad the Lakers were last year- idiotic.