2016-17 NBA Regular Season Thread

[Bolts]

Raptors got screwed. The timer did start the clock before Ross got the ball.

It started after the ball was tipped but before he got it, it looked like the time that didn't run off was greater than the time left when he shot the ball. Still a shitty way to end a game, even if my team won.

 

[Robotech]

It started after the ball was tipped but before he got it, it looked like the time that didn't run off was greater than the time left when he shot the ball. Still a shitty way to end a game, even if my team won.

The timer is run by a person, so it's not humanly possible to start the clock exactly at the same time the ball is tipped. You figure there is at least 0.2 or 0.3 reaction time for the timekeeper, maybe more. Ross shot the ball with 0.6 on the clock. Plus, he was going off of the clock as it was in the game. How can the refs say for sure that Ross wouldn't have gotten that shot off in time? The 3 pointer should've stood.

 

[Heatles84]

And it starts

Dwyane Wade Out for Bulls vs. Lakers

People want to talk shit about Miami not giving Wade the contract he wants/deserved/whateverbullshit.....they should take a look at the amount of games he played during Lebron's time in Miami.

 

[Bolts]

The timer is run by a person, so it's not humanly possible to start the clock exactly at the same time the ball is tipped. You figure there is at least 0.2 or 0.3 reaction time for the timekeeper, maybe more. Ross shot the ball with 0.6 on the clock. Plus, he was going off of the clock as it was in the game. How can the refs say for sure that Ross wouldn't have gotten that shot off in time? The 3 pointer should've stood.

We don't know if he would have made the shot had he taken it sooner, but if the time was supposed to run out before the shot he took I don't think it should count. Best solution might have been to replay the 2.4 or whatever it was. As I said before the call was gonna piss off somebody, this time it's the Raptors.

 

[Robotech]

We don't know if he would have made the shot had he taken it sooner, but if the time was supposed to run out before the shot he took I don't think it should count. Best solution might have been to replay the 2.4 or whatever it was. As I said before the call was gonna piss off somebody, this time it's the Raptors.

But how do we know for sure that he wouldn't have the time to take the shot that he took? Like I said, you can't expect the timekeeper to start the clock exactly at the same time as the tip because there is always human reaction time. Ross released that shot with 0.6 seconds or so. The refs were just guessing. Maybe it was the more probable result, but I don't think that should've been enough to rule that no basket.

 

[Bolts]

But how do we know for sure that he wouldn't have the time to take the shot that he took? Like I said, you can't expect the timekeeper to start the clock exactly at the same time as the tip because there is always human reaction time. Ross released that shot with 0.6 seconds or so. The refs were just guessing. Maybe it was the more probable result, but I don't think that should've been enough to rule that no basket.

I don't think it was the refs at the game who determined the call, but officials in Secaucus. And if they were checking it there, I assume they'd have a clock start when the tip happened to see if it should have counted or not. I know there's human error where the guy starts it late, but if the defender makes a good play that is supposed to force a tougher shot, he and his team shouldn't be penalized because of that. Ross shouldn't be penalized either for not being able to know that the clock was wrong, but one side had to be and tonight it was his.

 

[Vyle203]

While I'm all for Toronto losing, especially to lesser Western Conference teams, that's a crappy way to go down.

 

[bksballer89]

While I'm all for Toronto losing, especially to lesser Western Conference teams, that's a crappy way to go down.

Yep the least they could have done was replay the possession. That was very unfair. From what I heard, Ross took 2.5 to get the shot off and there were only 2.4 left. There were only two ways to resolve this fairly.

1) Replay the last 2.4 seconds

2) Say fuck it and say the basket is good. Settle the game in OT

Why is Toronto at fault because there was a tool managing the clock? Seriously

To not give them a chance to even replay the possession is correct.

And FTR @Bolts is correct, can't blame the refs for that review. I believe everything excluding flagrants/ejections are now determined in Secaucus

 

[Vyle203]

Yep the least they could have done was replay the possession. That was very unfair. From what I heard, Ross took 2.5 to get the shot off and there were only 2.4 left. There were only two ways to resolve this fairly.

1) Replay the last 2.4 seconds

2) Say fuck it and say the basket is good. Settle the game in OT

Why is Toronto at fault because there was a tool managing the clock? Seriously

To not give them a chance to even replay the possession is correct.

And FTR @Bolts is correct, can't blame the refs for that review. I believe everything excluding flagrants/ejections are now determined in Secaucus

Yea I think at the very least they should have replayed the posession. Ross played that based on what the shot clock showed, not what it was "supposed" to be. Who the hell knows if he could've forced a shot up sooner and made it. To just take the entire posession away is kind of ludicrous.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

He took the shot .1 seconds late.

Maybe he would have launched it sooner had the clock started on time.

If there is a rule stating " it's on you to know the time, down to the nanosecond, even if we Fuck up" then the L should stand.

If not, taking the basket away is some baby back bullshit.

 

[knowyourenemy]

Whatever Kyrie is ranked, to say he alone is a better commodity then the 3 young Lakers is insane.
Put the 3 young Lakers with James vs what the Cavs have and they're still winning the East.

Career wise Kyrie has been a great scorer.
One game of high assists is just that. One game.

Kyrie, alone, is much more valuable to the Cavaliers than Russell, Ingram, and Randle would be. But as you mentioned, Russell, Ingram, and Randle are more valuable to the Lakers than Kyrie would be to them. The teams have different objectives. It's kind of silly to even discuss it.

 

[knowyourenemy]

I've got to disagree with many on here. Replaying the possession seems wrong to me. The basket should have counted -- let the teams finish it out in overtime.

 

[gordontrue]

Maybe he would have launched it sooner had the clock started on time.

There are several reasons that calling off the basket was wrong... but you don't need to go any further than this one.

Players should be able to trust the clock. Or are they expected to be running their own nano-second clock in their head just in case the clock operators screw up?

 

[Vyle203]

I've got to disagree with many on here. Replaying the possession seems wrong to me. The basket should have counted -- let the teams finish it out in overtime.

Agree 100%

I just said at the VERY least replay it.

 

[gordontrue]

RPI's current prediction of playoff positioning:

West
1. Clippers
2. Spurs
3. Warriors
4. Rockets
5. Thunder
6. Jazz
7. Blazers
8. Grizzlies
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9. Lakers

East
1. Cavaliers
2. Raptors
3. Bulls
4. Hornets
5. Hawks
6. Celtics
7. Knicks
8. Pistons
------------
9. Heat

 

[bksballer89]

A funny thing happened on the way to overtime of the Raptors-Kings game

 

[DJ Fieri]

People want to talk shit about Miami not giving Wade the contract he wants/deserved/whateverbullshit.....they should take a look at the amount of games he played during Lebron's time in Miami.

He needs occasional days off at his age to make it through an 82 game season. If he plays 68-70 games.....he's worth every penny the Bulls pay him. And it's more important for him to be ready for the postseason than play every game of the regular season.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Kyrie, alone, is much more valuable to the Cavaliers than Russell, Ingram, and Randle would be. But as you mentioned, Russell, Ingram, and Randle are more valuable to the Lakers than Kyrie would be to them. The teams have different objectives. It's kind of silly to even discuss it.

Irving's also in his 6th season.....the diaper dandy Laker youngsters aren't.

 

[Robotech]

I don't think it was the refs at the game who determined the call, but officials in Secaucus. And if they were checking it there, I assume they'd have a clock start when the tip happened to see if it should have counted or not. I know there's human error where the guy starts it late, but if the defender makes a good play that is supposed to force a tougher shot, he and his team shouldn't be penalized because of that. Ross shouldn't be penalized either for not being able to know that the clock was wrong, but one side had to be and tonight it was his.

I include the Secaucus people when I say refs.

 

[Robotech]

I've got to disagree with many on here. Replaying the possession seems wrong to me. The basket should have counted -- let the teams finish it out in overtime.

I agree. Replaying the possession is crap. They made the shot before the buzzer and it should have stood. Raptors more than likely miss the shot if they replayed the possession.