2015 IIHF World Junior Championship

[KennyBanyeah]

So you're saying that he's technically right then?

Yes.. but Sid didn't whine about being loft off of Canada's WJHC team until he was at least 9 years old.

 

[mooger_35]

"The fact that I haven't been invited to a camp, it's insulting," Ho-Sang said (via TSN). "I've done nothing to them (Hockey Canada). It's not like they invited me to U17 and U18 and I messed up at all that stuff. I haven't been invited back since my first year in the OHL in December. It's been a year and a half; I haven't been a part of any Hockey Canada stuff."

"If you're going to alienate an 18-year-old kid, like good job. Their job is development and progression of Canadian hockey. If I am a problem child, that means they don't like problems, that they have an issue with fixing things, that they like when things are easy. That actually means that they don't possess the ability to develop and that they are just taking players to fit their role that have been developed somewhere else."

If nothing else, kid's an entertaining interview.

theScore

 

[DragonfromTO]

From what I can tell, most people and teams consider him too much of a liabilty and a head case. He spends more time with a chip on his shoulder over external things, instead of just focusing on his game.

I don't think most teams want to take on that kind of a project, or be subjected to unwanted attention and distractions.

That sounds awfully vague.

It seems to me that if "not focusing on his game" hurts a team so much it should show up in his play. And if it shows up in his play, then the specific details of how it does should at least be cited, no?

 

[IPostedWhat]

That sounds awfully vague.

It seems to me that if "not focusing on his game" hurts a team so much it should show up in his play. And if it shows up in his play, then the specific details of how it does should at least be cited, no?

According to sources, numerous NHL teams have Ho-Sang on their Do Not Draft List.

And only 18 of 30 teams chose to interview him at the recent NHL Combine — and many came away stunned and disappointed.

I asked a chief scout with a late pick in the first round whether he would select Ho-Sang if he was available, and without hesitating, he answered no.

When I asked why, he said there are certain criteria his organization values, “and if I picked him, my scouts would all revolt. He doesn’t fit what we’re looking for.”

The curious case of controversial NHL prospect Joshua Ho-Sang | SIMMONS | Hockey


All I know is that he's definitely not shy about throwing out the race card when things don't go his way, but it seems like teams just don't want to deal with his personality and attitude?

 

[DragonfromTO]

The curious case of controversial NHL prospect Joshua Ho-Sang | SIMMONS | Hockey


All I know is that he's definitely not shy about throwing out the race card when things don't go his way, but it seems like teams just don't want to deal with his personality and attitude?

Um, were those quotes supposed to be examples of criticism that was LESS vague?

 

[IPostedWhat]

Um, were those quotes supposed to be examples of criticism that was LESS vague?

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Um, were those quotes supposed to be examples of criticism that was LESS vague?

While vague, at least that post cites experts who believe this guy won't amount to much at the higher levels of hockey.

Not saying it's right but it's actually relevant information.

 

[IPostedWhat]

While vague, at east that post cites experts who believe this guy won't amount to much at the higher levels of hockey.

Not saying it's right but it's actually relevant information.

While some NHL teams were scared off by Ho-Sang’s individuality, viewing it as selfishness.

Islanders select Ho-Sang in first round | Windsor Star

 

[DragonfromTO]

While vague, at least that post cites experts who believe this guy won't amount to much at the higher levels of hockey.

Not saying it's right but it's actually relevant information.

Why though? Isn't Hockey Canada supposed to be putting together the best junior team right now, not the team of junior aged guys that will be the best players in the NHL down the road?

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Why though? Isn't Hockey Canada supposed to be putting together the best junior team right now, not the team of junior aged guys that will be the best players in the NHL down the road?

I agree. I said earlier that I thought he should have been invited. However, if people in the NHL feel he's uncoachable then maybe Team Canada folk feel the same. It's not ludicrous. I personally think he should be considered but there is an argument, based on the opinions of a group of experts, that says he won't be a good member of Team Canada.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I like Ho-Sang a lot. What's wrong with questioning things? I'm not saying he belongs on Canada's World Junior team, but there's no reason as to why he shouldn't have been invited to the camp. The one thing I do know about Josh is he did everything that was asked of him at Isles prospect camp. He showed a willingness to want to get better in every facet of his game. I can understand why some teams didn't want him. Those teams don't want players who are outspoken.

 

[puckhead]

McDavid out 5-6 weeks.
WJHC starts in 6 weeks and 2 days.


*phew*

 

[Tomas Tatar]

Watching a couple Wings prospects hoping they can crack the tournament.

Bertuzzi
Nasty
Hicketts

for Canada

Larkin and Turgeron for US

Holmstrom for Sweden

 

[Tomas Tatar]

Ho Sang was a bad pick for the Isles. Their development is piss and there was some goof players left for them. Ho-Sang is a cancer for a reason

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Ho Sang was a bad pick for the Isles. Their development is piss and there was some goof players left for them. Ho-Sang is a cancer for a reason

Development is piss? Have you seen Brock Nelson, Ryan Strome & Calvin de Haan play this season?

As for Ho-Sang, you can't teach skill & he has a ton of it. Everything that was said about him during prospect camp by the Isles was great. He wants to make it to the NHL & now has a good idea as to what he has to do in order to get their. Whether he does or not is up to him.

 

[Tomas Tatar]

Development is piss? Have you seen Brock Nelson, Ryan Strome & Calvin de Haan play this season?

As for Ho-Sang, you can't teach skill & he has a ton of it. Everything that was said about him during prospect camp by the Isles was great. He wants to make it to the NHL & now has a good idea as to what he has to do in order to get their. Whether he does or not is up to him.

You trying to tell me they have good development? LOL

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

You trying to tell me they have good development? LOL

They do. Check out Nino Niederreiter!

 

[Puck082]

They do. Check out Nino Niederreiter!

He stinks.

 

[Tomas Tatar]

Nino was one of the worst cases I have ever witnessed.

 

[Puck082]

Nino was one of the worst cases I have ever witnessed.

The guy scored one goal in a 55 game rookie season. The Isles felt it was better for him to develop another year in the AHL. He whined, bitched, complained and asked for a trade. Granted, I don't think he stinks (my post before was sarcastic), but he never really showed maturity with the Isles. He wanted to be a top line player at 19/20 years old but he never earned his keep, paid his dues and acted entitled.

If I'm being fair, I wouldn't say that it was all Nino or all the Isles' fault. About about a 50/50 split on who's to blame for his tenure.

Lastly, of course the guy scored a f**king hat trick last night.....of course.