2013 Phillies & Charlie Manuel

[HammerDown]

 

[Retroram52]

Thanks Hammerdown for the info. Early on it looks as though the Phillies are taking the day off. Getting their ass kicked down 0-3.

 

[hokiehi21]

 

[Retroram52]

What a bunch of bugley putzes!! Another football score game. What is that about four or five of those scores? Pathetic!!

 

[powerchord86]

Thanks for the jinx HD!

 

[powerchord86]

Yesterdays game left a bad taste in my mouth.

Kind of reminds me of...

 

[powerchord86]

Get that series win! Go Phuckin' Phils!

 

[Retroram52]

Nice recovery after getting their asses handed to them yesterday. As you stated PC86, we took the series. On to the Marlins and hopefully over .500 for good.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[powerchord86]

Doesn't sound good considering Ruiz leaving the game yesterday.

 

[Retroram52]

Thanks Hammerdown for the update. Yea I saw the Phils signed Quintero from the Cubbies and optioned him down to Triple A. Now that Adams goes to the 15-day DL, Quintero has his shot. Apparently the Phils thinks he has something left in the tank. And now we will all find out!

 

[Retroram52]

This is what is driving me absolutely bonkers with this Phillies squad. They have a good series with the Reds at Citizens and they go down to Miami and get their asses handed to them by letting a 12-32 club like the Marlins beat them 5-1. It just does not make any sense even in the world of baseball!!

 

[Retroram52]

Now we are back to win one, lose one. What the hay?!

 

[powerchord86]

Hey as long as they win sometime I'm good with it I guess..

 

[Retroram52]

IDK PC86. I like to see the Phils put together a win streak of 8-10 games. They are on a 2-game win streak right now. I guess when they get close to .500, they f things up-again.

 

[powerchord86]

Yeah, they been having a losing battle with that 500 mark. It's painful.

 

[Retroram52]

The frikin' FO will not bring in young talent and mix them in with the vets like Rollins, Utley, Hamels and Ruiz. Perhaps it is money issues but it is definitely painful!!

 

[BigDDude]

Ten reasons the Phillies will be buyers

By David Schoenfield - ESPN



The Philadelphia Phillies are 23-24, they've been outscored by 31 runs, Roy Halladay is on the disabled list, Ryan Howard hasn't hit and Cole Hamels can't win. So the Phillies eventually will be sellers at the trade deadline, right? I don't think so. Here are 10 reasons why.

1. Cliff Lee is an ace.

Remember him? Finished third in the Cy Young voting back in 2011. Pitches 200-plus innings every year. Can throw a fastball over a postage stamp while blindfolded. He's still pretty good. OK, his three-hit shutout Wednesday came against the Marlins. It still counts. He's 5-2, his ERA is 2.48, he's one inning shy of leading the majors in innings pitched and opponents are hitting .227 against him. He's one of the best pitchers in baseball.

2. Cole Hamels will pitch better.

Hamels is 1-7 with a 4.45 ERA and has struggled with his command. The Phillies have won just one of his 10 starts. In a way, this is good news. You really think Hamels will go 3-21? That the Phillies will win just three of the 30 or so starts Hamels will make? Of course not. So the fact that the Phillies are 23-24 while playing worse than the Marlins or Astros when Hamels pitches means they could easily be worse than 23-24. But they're not.

3. Kyle Kendrick is actually good now.

As Bill Baer wrote at the end of April, this is a new-and-improved Kendrick over the previous mediocre editions. Basically, Kendrick has stopped throwing so many cutters to left-handers and started using his changeup more often. It has given him a strikeout pitch against lefties and helped hold them to a .240/.290/.380 (BA/OBP/SLG) line against him this season, a big improvement compared to the .268/.341/.458 mark from 2010 to 2012.

4. Michael Young hasn't been horrible.

He hasn't been great, hitting .287 with just one home run, but for some reason, he has started drawing walks (23 this year compared to 33 all of last season with the Rangers). That's given him a fine .378 on-base percentage. If he keeps that walk rate up, Philadelphia manager Charlie Manuel should actually consider moving him into the leadoff spot -- especially considering Young's tendency to ground into rally-killing double plays (11, most in the majors). It's not so much that he hasn't been a big positive, but he hasn't been the gaping wound many sabermetric analysts projected. Take that, smart guys!

5. Delmon Young isn't good at baseball.

No, no, no, this is another good thing. The Phillies will eventually realize they'll need a better right fielder. Can you say Andre Ethier? Actually, he and Young would make a nice platoon.

6. The bullpen will do better.

The Phillies rank 27th in the majors with a 4.67 bullpen ERA. I think they have enough quality arms down there (14th in strikeout percentage, for example) to improve. Well, assuming Chad Durbin doesn't keep getting used.

7. The Nationals just might not be that good.

The Phillies are just one game behind the Nationals in the standings. Their run differentials are nearly the same -- minus-26 for Washington, minus-31 for Philadelphia -- but nobody is suggesting the Nationals sell off. That still leaves the Braves, a team the Phillies still have to play 16 times. In fact, the Phillies haven't played the Nationals yet, so they have 19 games remaining against them. So, umm ... they control their own destiny!

8. Even if the Phillies decide to dump, what do they have to dump?

OK, you could trade Chase Utley, but you're not going to get a franchise prospect in return for three months of Utley's services (yes, everyone can point to the Mets getting Zack Wheeler for Carlos Beltran in 2011, but that's a rarity). You could trade Lee, although his salary is so high -- $25 million each of the next two years with a possible $27.5 million vesting option in 2016 -- that he might not bring much in return, either. You're not going to get anything for Delmon Young or Michael Young. In other words, trading assets isn't really the way to start a youth movement because you don't have valuable assets to deal. That leaves general manager Ruben Amaro with the option of trying to acquire players other teams might be looking to dump -- such as an Ethier, who probably wouldn't cost much if the Phillies are willing to absorb part of his contract.

9. Roy Halladay might return this year.

He just headed to Florida to begin rehabbing from his shoulder surgery, and everyone is hopeful he can return in late August. Hey, you never know.

10. Big-market teams don't give up!

Well, OK, the Red Sox did a year ago, but that's because the Dodgers offered a gift too generous to turn down. The Phillies aren't going to find a taker for Howard's contract.

Look, I don't believe the Phillies are good enough to beat the Braves or Nationals, but the wild card isn't a crazy impossibility. They have a tougher schedule ahead, with 35 games left against the Braves and Nationals and only 19 against the Marlins and Mets. Manuel's resistance to doing things such as platooning Howard or admitting that Delmon Young can't or shouldn't play right field is an obstacle. Michael Young might stop drawing walks. Utley just missed a game with a sore rib cage, so who knows when he'll miss a chunk of action.

If the Phillies trade for a couple of bats in the outfield, however, you never know. It certainly doesn't seem in Amaro's nature to concede a playoff berth. Look for the Phillies to be buyers.

 

[Retroram52]

Nice BigDDude. And I agree. I wish they were buyers. Ethier sounds like an excellent move. Trading Utley would be a bad move on a number of levels. That leaves Howard. I think you are right about Howard and I wish the Rubes would bring in some of that young talent that they supposedly have in their farm system that I have been reading about because the Phils are getting much older. Howard is just not going to improve back to anything like we saw in the past championship years. Achilles ruptures can affect the mental side of the game for many players who suffer that injury and I think Howard is in that category.

I noticed you have Rams team in your favs list. You should come over to the Rams pages where I am the mod. We have a great bunch of posters and we like critical thinking-based spirited banter but we don't like a-hole trollers. I am not stating you are one but I sense that you would bring a great deal of knowledge to the banter pool.

 

[powerchord86]

Nice post BD. Very uplifting!