2012 season thread

[Windingmywatch]

I'm more interested in ties. What if we have two teams tied for the 2nd WC spot and the other WC tied with a fellow division leader? Meaning we have two ties, one for a WC/Division and one tie between two other teams. Is it all based on division and league record, similar opponents, etc? Or do they do a playoff game before the single WC playoff game? That could really hurt a team, having to throw out what I would assume are their best two pitchers before then playing the best team in their league.

There is a MLB.com source but it is harder to understand than what is posted on Wikipedia. Hate to use it as a source but it is better written and more easily understood than what MLB wrote.

The explanations are pretty long ... hate to post here ... so here is the Wikipedia and MLB links ...

Major League Baseball tie-breaking procedures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tiebreaker scenarios, possibilities abound | MLB.com: News

 

[Windingmywatch]

Wash makes no comment about Kins base running because Kins is one of Wash favorites. That boneheaded pick off at 3rd and the following error completely changed the game. Ive never seen the stat on caught by pick off but I'm sure Kins leads the majors in being caught by pick off.

Nope... Jose Reyes (MIA) has 12PO. Kinsler and Andrus both have 7PO

Jose Reyes Batting Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

Ian Kinsler Batting Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

Elvis Andrus Batting Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

 

[PAINTERMAN]

Thanks for the info. I'ld bet he had more than that. I guess it just seems like it.

 

[bone3421]

Wash makes no comment about Kins base running because Kins is one of Wash favorites. That boneheaded pick off at 3rd and the following error completely changed the game. Ive never seen the stat on caught by pick off but I'm sure Kins leads the majors in being caught by pick off.

welcome painterman.....hope you enjoy this place and stick around

 

[guitarmy21b]

Well hope they play better tonight, I'll try to keep an eye out while I'm watching the Cowboys

 

[Windingmywatch]

Thanks for the info. I'ld bet he had more than that. I guess it just seems like it.

I would have thought Kinsler had the ML lead too ... but I just got updated the info from Baseball Reference ... and Kinsler and Andrus both have been picked off 7 times. Not most in ML ... but they are tied for most in the AL. (Must drive Gary Pettis nuts).

As a team TEX has the most runners picked off in the AL with 24PO ... MIA has the most in ML with 26PO. CLE is second worst in the AL with 21PO. CHW is best in the AL and ML with only 9PO. PHL is best NL with 10PO.

Here are TEX numbers (24 total PO)
7 each -- Kinsler and Andrus
2 each -- Cruz, Murphy, Gentry
1 each -- Hamilton, Moreland, Torrealba, Young

2012 American League Baserunning/Misc - Baseball-Reference.com

The other part of the PO stat is how have TEX pitchers done picking guys off? Answer: TEX pitchers have 8PO ... below ML and AL average of 10PO.

LAD and OAK tied as best in baseball with 17PO by their pitchers. Worst in ML is BAL and CLE with only 3PO.

Here are the most POs by AL pitchers. Not surprising ... they are all LHP.

Ricky Romero (TOR) -- 8PO
Travis Blakely (OAK) -- 7PO in only 90IP (the guy with the head fake)
Chris Sale (CHW) -- 6PO
CJ Wilson (LAA) -- 5PO
Derek Holland (TEX) -- 5PO (Harrison 2PO, Perez 1PO are the other TEX pitchers with POs)

2012 Major League Baseball Baserunning/Situ - Baseball-Reference.com

 

[Senator_fan]

Murphy qualifies now according to ESPN

That's probably because they are estimating he will have enough plate appearances.

You normally need 502 PA to qualify but can have less under the Tony Gwynn Rule MLB Rule 10.22(a)

In 1996 Gwynn was four plate appearances (PAs) short of the minimum to qualify for the title, MLB Rule 10.22(a) allows hitless at-bats to be added to qualify.

Gwynn, who batted .353 in 498 PAs, would have dropped to .349 with the extra at-bats, still five points better than second-place Ellis Burks’ .344

 

[Windingmywatch]

Murphy qualifies now according to ESPN

So why is he batting 7th?

Wouldn't it make more sense for Hamilton and Murphy to sandwich Beltre? Move Face to 7th.

 

[jta4437]

Murphy is only 11 PA's short according to my numbers

Through 136 games he should need 435 ABs, he's currently at 424

But I might be wrong, but not by much

 

[romeo212000]

So why is he batting 7th?

Wouldn't it make more sense for Hamilton and Murphy to sandwich Beltre? Move Face to 7th.

It would, but we're talking about wash here and you may as well just piss all over common sense when it comes to him.

 

[Windingmywatch]

Murphy is only 11 PA's short according to my numbers

Through 136 games he should need 435 ABs, he's currently at 424

But I might be wrong, but not by much

ESPN shows him #5AL BA right behind Beltre w/369ABs ... but in the past your accounting of projected ABs was more accurate than the computer generated one ESPN had.

 

[PAINTERMAN]

Thanks Winding for all the info. I guess we can add 1 more to the total for Kins after last night. The info on the pitchers is also interesting. By and away it really wouldn't matter who was catching, as slow as most of the Ranger pitchers are to the plate, not to mention their weak PO moves.

 

[PAINTERMAN]

Bone, thanks for the welcome.

 

[PAINTERMAN]

Nice to see MY square the ball up a couple of times over the last few days. Wash isn't going to do anything about it so we can only hope that he continues to heat up. I would like to see Profar get the start instead of Kins today. Kins needs a real wake up call!

 

[jta4437]

ESPN shows him #5AL BA right behind Beltre w/369ABs ... but in the past your accounting of projected ABs was more accurate than the computer generated one ESPN had.

Sorry I put ABs, i meant plate appearances

369 ABs, with 40+ walks and various other thing don't count against ABs, HBP, sac flies, etc...

 

[Windingmywatch]

Sorry I put ABs, i meant plate appearances

369 ABs, with 40+ walks and various other thing don't count against ABs, HBP, sac flies, etc...

As I remember it ... "non hit ABs" can be credited. Am real fuzzy on the number it needs to be or what counts and doesn't count.

 

[Xx srs bsns xX]

Baseball Time in Arlington: A Texas Rangers Blog - Home - The Cost Of NOT Winning ItAll

Great article by Joey...

 

[Windingmywatch]

Baseball Time in Arlington: A Texas Rangers Blog - Home - The Cost Of NOT Winning ItAll

Great article by Joey...

Agree. Joey sometimes gets flack often for his sabermetric perspectives ... and his time since having to move back to Dallas for his SMU MBA program has been limited to write the stuff he's famous for.

I think Joey, Pras, and Mike Hitson when he writes for BBTIA are not only good writers but good baseball thinkers too.

 

[Windingmywatch]

Perhaps it is a sign ...

This morning two Baltimore Orioles were outside at the feeder at our central Arkansas home. First time we've ever seen any here.

 

[Windingmywatch]

I have long not put much stock in season statistics ... just as much as I don't put any value in career stats unless it's for HOF consideration. I prefer to consider what a smaller sample of recent performance to get a more realistic prediction of what the next appearance will be like.

I think the past 28 days is the more baseline with the last 14 days showing the trend. Trend up means recent performance has been better while trend down means recent performance has been worse. Alphabetically ...

Darvish
last 28 days: 4G 4.71SO/BB ... .134 ... .190 ... .186 ... .376
last 14 days: 3G 4.60SO/BB ... .097 ... .154 ... .153 ... .307 trend up

Dempster
last 28 days: 5G 3.60SO/BB ... .208 ... .267 ... .283 ... .551
last 14 days: 2G 5.33SO/BB ... .229 ... .269 ... .292 ... .561 trend up

Harrison ... does not include Sun 16 Sep vs SEA
last 28 days: 4G 3.17SO/BB ... .284 ... .324 ... .484 ... .808
last 14 days: 2G 3.00SO/BB ... .310 ... .348 ... .476 ... .824 trend down

Holland
last 28 days: 5G 4.25SO/BB ... .211 ... .266 ... .367 ... .633
last 14 days: 2G 6.00SO/BB ... .170 ... .228 ... .283 ... .511 trend up