Series Thread: 2) Nuggets vs 3) T'Wolves

[fightinfunbags]

It's hilarious that you think you've done anything other than embarrass yourself.

I would probably lash out as well if it dawned on me that I was so easy to troll.

 

[dtgold88]

It's hilarious that you think you've done anything other than embarrass yourself.

I guess if I'm gonna take a ban this is the thread to get it since it might be ending soon.

 

[msgkings322]

Nope. Murray is the straw that stirs the drink. When Murray shows out the Nuggets have success. When he doesn’t, they don’t. That was seen in the first and second half last night as well as the entirety of the history of the Jokic/Murray pairing.

Yes and if Jokic doesn't show out they do just fine LOL

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I guess if I'm gonna take a ban this is the thread to get it since it might be ending soon.

Jokic might Raptor his way to the final yet

Don't count him out

 

[msgkings322]

No, I’m saying that Murray is the piece that takes that team to the next level.

They don't get anywhere near the 'next level' without Jokic as the #1 which is why he's the most valuable player on the team not the guy who gets them a little higher

 

[msgkings322]

And that’s cause Jokic is white. Never fails.

Normally I think this kind of thing is lazy oversensitive woke antiracism...and yet who are the most controversial multiple MVP winners and what is the main thing they have in common?

 

[msgkings322]

That works both ways. The great white hope theme doesn't work as well when the guy is foreign.

It worked on that Canadian white dude too

 

[msgkings322]

This game had the clearest sign of Ant becoming a superstar. He was having a terrible game and his shot was not falling at all. Instead of trying to force the issue when it was not his not he shifted over to Murray and Murray's game dropped off a cliff.

Finding a way to significantly positively impact a game on an off night is amazing.

Right...superstars usually have to be able to play at least adequate defense and being a great defender is often a big part of it

 

[fightinfunbags]

They don't get anywhere near the 'next level' without Jokic as the #1 which is why he's the most valuable player on the team not the guy who gets them a little higher

Wrong

 

[msgkings322]

Wrong

You're feisty today LOL

Of course it's not wrong. Same team with someone replacing Jokic has a much worse record than someone replacing Murray, obviously.

 

[fightinfunbags]

You're feisty today LOL

Of course it's not wrong

It is wrong. When the game is in the mud and you need your star to take over Jokic isn’t that guy. He’s a facilitator. That’s worth fuck all if people are having a bad night or series.

 

[msgkings322]

Meh. Doesn’t mean much of anything. People west of the Mississippi really aren’t sports fans.

You're really in a bad place today, everything ok?

 

[msgkings322]

It is wrong. When the game is in the mud and you need your star to take over Jokic isn’t that guy. He’s a facilitator. That’s worth fuck all if people are having a bad night or series.

Added this later for obvious context:

"Same team with someone replacing Jokic has a much worse record than someone replacing Murray, obviously."

 

[msgkings322]

This is a little disingenuous. Murray was getting wide-open shots all game based on the Wolves reacting to Jokic in the paint. MPJ was the major recipient of the Jokic effect against the Lakers. Jokic is the driving force of that team, other than game 5 he can't do it alone, he needs his teammates to capitalize on the opportunities he creates for them.

It's more than a little. funbags is just having fun staying on bad takes today. Like many of us, with him often the arguing is the point, admitting error is boring.

 

[trojanfan12]

I would probably lash out as well if it dawned on me that I was so easy to troll.

Lashing out is what you've been doing since before the MVP voting. You come off like a scorned woman.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Lashing out is what you've been doing since before the MVP voting. You come off like a scorned woman.

Sure thing, Karen.

 

[fightinfunbags]

 

[tlance]

No, I’m saying that Murray is the piece that takes that team to the next level.

Ok.

And Pippen was the piece that took the Bulls to the next level.

But MJ was still the undisputed MVP of the team.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Ok.

And Pippen was the piece that took the Bulls to the next level.

But MJ was still the undisputed MVP of the team.

Nah. MJ could take over a game. Joker can’t do that. Sorry. He’s a facilitator and that guy is always dependent on the people around him.

 

[msgkings322]

Ok.

And Pippen was the piece that took the Bulls to the next level.

But MJ was still the undisputed MVP of the team.

He knows. He's a little more ornery today is all.