1990 MLB Draft Playoff Game 3

[Nosferatu]

Please vote for the better team.


TEAM FIVE

Lineup

1st Righty - 2nd base - Craig Biggio: (Also can move to catcher)Most Leadoff Homers in NL History, 4 Straight Gold Gloves, 5 Top 16 MVPs
2nd Switch - LF - Vince Coleman: 6 straight Stolen Base Titles, 3 straight 100 stolen base seasons, Two Top 12 Stolen MVPs
3rdRighty - RF - Dave Winfield: 7 Gold Gloves, 1st Ballot HOfer, Selected as Third Best Athlete EVER by ESPN in 1994.
Cleanup Switch- 1B - Eddie Murray: 1st Ballot HOFer, 3x Gold Glover, 9 Times in Top 11 in MVP voting.
5th - Righty - CF - Dale Murphy: Back to Back MVPs, 5 straight Gold Gloves, 4 straight Silver Sluggers.
6thLefty - DH - Darryl Strawberry: 8straight All Star Games, 88 HR Champ, 4 Top Ten MVPs.
7thRighty - SS - Cal "The Iron Man" Ripken: 1st Ballot HOFer, 2 MVPs, Most Homers Ever from a shortstop.
8thLefty- C - Lance "The Big Wheel"Parrish: Three Straight Gold Gloves, Three Straight Top 16 in MVP, 8x All Star.
9thRighty - 3B - Travis Fryman: Two Top 18 MVPs, 5x All Star, Gold Glover.

Bench
Pinch Hitter - Righty- 1B/DH - Cecil Fielder: 1st player with 50HRs since 1977 in 1990, Back to Back HR Titles, Three Straight RBI Titles.

Pinch Runner- Lefty- CF - Steve Finley: 5x Gold Glover, 320 Career SBs, Two Top 14 MVPs.

Pinch Runner -Switch- 2B/LF/3B -Bip Roberts: Extremely Versatile, 2x 40 stolen bases, 8th in 1992 MVP Voting.

DH/1B/3B -Righty- Darrell Evans: 4 Top 18 MVps, 1985 HR Champ, 1605 Career Walks- 12th All-Time.

LF/RF - Righty- Dante Bichette: HR&RBI Title in 91, 4 Top 20 MVPs, 4x All Star.



Rotation

SP -Righty- Jack Morris: 1991 World Series MVP, Opening Day No Hitter in '84, Most Wins in the '80's.

SP - Lefty- Frank Tanana: 3 straight Top 9 Cy Young voting, 3 straight ERAs under 2.62, 100MPH Fastball!

SP - Righty- Kevin Appier: 1993 ERA leader, 3rd in Cy Young Voting, Back to back ERAs under 2.56.

SP - Righty- Jose Rijo: 1990 World Series MVP, 1993 K leader, 2 Top 5 Cy Young votings.

SP - Righty - Mark Gubicza: Back to Back All Stag games, 3rd in '88 Cy Young Voting, Back to Back Seasons over 255 innings.

Bullpen
Closer -Righty - Steve Bedrosian: Cy Young Winner, Rolaids Relief Award Winner, One of Four Relievers to win the CYA.
RP -Lefty- Mike Stanton: Three Times Over 80 appearances, Most Holds in MLB History, 3 Straight WS Rings.
RP -Power Lefty- Mitch Williams: The Wild Thing, All-Star, Slide Step Master.
RP - Righty- Gregg Olson: 4 out 5 season with an ERA under 2.05, 217 saves, All Star.
RP -Power Lefty- Dan Plesac: Three Straight All Star Games, Brewers Alltime ERA and Saves Leader.
RP - Righty- Steve Olin: Submariner, 2.34 ERA in 88 innings in '92 at age 26, his final season.


VS

TEAM SIX

Starting Lineup

1 (R) LF - Rickey Henderson - 1st Ballot HOF, 1X CHAMP, 1X MVP and ALCS MVP
2 (R) SS - Jay Bell - 2X AS, 1X CHAMP, 1 Gold Glove
3 (L) 3B - Wade Boggs - 1st Ballot HOF, 5 Batting Titles, 8 Silver Sluggers
4 (R) 1B - Andres Galarraga - 5X AS, 1X Batting CHAMP, 2X Gold Glove winner
5 (L) DH - John Olerud - 1 Batting Title, 3X Gold Glove, Career BA .295
6 (R) RF - Moises Alou - 6X AS, 1X CHAMP, Career Highs .355 39 124
7 (R) C - Gary Carter - HOF, 11X AS, 2X MVP
8 (L) CF - Fred Lynn - 9X AS, 1X MVP and ALCS MVP, 4 Gold Gloves
9 (S) 2B - Carlos Baerga - 2X AS, 2 Silver Sluggers, Career Highs .321 21 114


Bench

(L) 1B/DH - Tino Martinez - 2X AS, 4X CHAMP, Car Highs .296 44 144
(R) OF/3B - Ron Gant - 2X AS, 1 Silver Slugger, Career Highs .303 36 117
(S) IF - Garry Templeton - 3X AS, 2 Silver Sluggers, Led the league in triples 3X
(L) OF - Mike Greenwell - 2X AS, 1 Silver Slugger, Career Avg .303
(S) C/OF - B.J. Surhoff - 1X AS, Career Highs .320 28 107, led the League in AB's

Starting Pitchers

1 LSP - David Wells - 3X AS, 2X CHAMP, ALCS MVP
2 RSP - Dennis Martinez - 4X AS, NL Pitching Title, Led the league in CG's 2x
3 LSP - Mark Langston - 4X AS, 7 Gold Gloves, Led the league in SO per 9 Innings 4X
4 LSP - Jamie Moyer - 1X AS, 1X CHAMP, 35th All-time in wins
5 RSP - Greg Swindell - 1X AS, 1X CHAMP

Bullpen

Closer- Lee Smith - 7X AS, 3X Rolaids Relief Awards, Led the league in saves 4X and 3re career in saves all-time
LSet Up- Jeff Brantley - 1X AS, 1X Rolaids Relief Award, led the league in Saves
RSet Up- Michael Jackson - Led the league in GP, top 5 in saves 2X
RLong- Eric Plunk - 1X CHAMP, career ERA 3.82
LLong- Chris Hammond - 1X CHAMP
SRP- Dennis Lamp - 3rd in ERA one year

 

[Nosferatu]

Please vote for the better team and give reasons if you like...

 

[UK Cowboy]

Seven games series, team 5 takes it 4-2. Two more crazy good lineups, the difference to me is that team 5's starting pitchers would be more competitive against team 6's lineup. Team 6's staff would have all kids of trouble with team 5 IMO

 

[broncosmitty]

Team Five has the best 1-9 lineup, IMO. Good speed at the top and good power and balance throughout.

Team Six is no slouch though. The best leadoff man ever and Wade Boggs would do plenty of table setting for The Big Cat and Lord Helmet.

Tanana in his 20's was an overpowering fireballer. And we all know what Morris can do in big games. I vote 5.

 

[Ritzarmy]

Team 5

 

[Nosferatu]

I really like both these teams but

I VOTE TEAM FIVE

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Team 5 for me as well.


Another consistent strong middle of the order with good speed at the top.


I look for a good bench with hitting, speed and power. I think team 5 has that.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Team 6. I have undisclosed reasons why.

 

[Pack 500]

Team 5

 

[wlk3]

Team 5 is well crafted... He must know a little bit about baseball or something... Team 5

 

[blstoker]

Team 5

First, I would have preferred if he had led Coleman off instead of batting him second, even if his OBP is lower than Biggio's, his speed in that situation begs to get on without Biggio ahead of him, where if he gets out, Biggio is still second, but that's a personal preference. As is putting Olerud at first instead of DH.

I really don't like the pitching staffs in this matchup, neither is all that great (compared to what others put up), so it really comes down to the better line up. I think that goes to 5.

 

[Nosferatu]

What I like most from team 5 is Mark Gubicza was in back to back All Stag games...

 

[broncosmitty]

Hahahaha. I could have put down his World Series ring. That he got by not pitching in the Series.

 

[da55bums]

team 5-if switches Coleman and Biggio a much better lineup, bench is even noteable...Dante?...oh and my boy bip.

 

[broncosmitty]

You guys really think Coleman is better suited at the top? Just because of his ridiculous speed? Biggio's a much better leadoff guy IMO. It's not like I have Vince following Cal Ripken or Lance Parrish....

It was a tough call on who to start in left. I honestly thought I was losing value by not having vince as a pinch runner. Only spot without a Gold Glover starting and none of the other options would change that.

 

[da55bums]

not saying Biggio isn't fine on top but I would completely and whole heartedly rather have Biggio in the 2 spot over Coleman because he has the better bat and I like bat control guys in the two spot over speed guys.

 

[broncosmitty]

not saying Biggio isn't fine on top but I would completely and whole heartedly rather have Biggio in the 2 spot over Coleman because he has the better bat and I like bat control guys in the two spot over speed guys.

As Nos ever so politely pointed out though.... He's 20th AllTime in Ks. 2spot is always a mover over guy, in my mind. And with Biggio being the doubles machine that he is, figured Vince could lay em down and we'd take our chances having men on first and third with nobody down for Dave. Or worst case, a man on third and one out.

But I'll take you and stokes advice for round two and flip flop em. (Roberts would have been a great guy for the 2 hole.)

 

[steveringo]

Not that my vote counts, now, but I actually like team 6 better in this matchup....

 

[Nosferatu]

CLOSED

 

[blstoker]

You guys really think Coleman is better suited at the top? Just because of his ridiculous speed? Biggio's a much better leadoff guy IMO. It's not like I have Vince following Cal Ripken or Lance Parrish....

It's not that Biggio isn't a good option at the lead off, it's that Coleman is a bad option at the #2. Biggio had nearly identical career numbers at #2 as he did at #1 (.284/.364/.432/.796 vs. .284/.370/.447/.817). Coleman on the other hand really only batted lead off (1275 of his career 1291 starts were in the lead off). Coleman averaged 2.27 bases a game for his career (Total bases + walks + HBP + SB), where Biggio averaged 1.72.

Biggio gets on base more often(about 4 times in 100 plate appearances), but Coleman gets into scoring position more often. As they say, "speed kills".