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Series Thread: 1) Toronto Raptors vs 4) Cleveland Cavs

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I dislike Lebron just as much as the next person. But in no way is Lebron #6 on the all-time list.

If he were to retire at this present moment, I'd put him at #4. But my eyes tell me he's #2. At the end, I think that's where he ends up.

People keep throwing out Lebron's gaudy stats - but the offense he plays in is designed around him, it's asked for him. Of course he's a better facilitator and rebounder than Jordan. But the latter's the better scorer and a far better defender - which you can't truly measure.

Players need to be ranked after their careers.

If Lebron gets swept in the next round and never makes the playoffs again (very unlikely but it's a hypothetical situation) despite playing for another 4 or 5 years, do you think he'll be remembered in the same way as he does right now?

The opposite could also happen. A lot of people have him as 4th or 3rd. What if he makes the finals again this year, and then moves to a team like Philly or LA and wins a threepeat. He'd probably go as a clear number #1 then.
 

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Lowry is 1-7 in first round games. His lone win was last series vs the Wizards. Tonight will be, given Cleveland's game 7 just 2 days ago, his biggest advantage at winning just his 2nd playoff game 1 game.
 

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Lowry is 1-7 in first round games. His lone win was last series vs the Wizards. Tonight will be, given Cleveland's game 7 just 2 days ago, his biggest advantage at winning just his 2nd playoff game 1 game.

pretty much goes for the whole Raps team...

jump on 'em fast and early...
 

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pretty much goes for the whole Raps team...

jump on 'em fast and early...

Yeah they lose tonight and their doomed for the series. They may extend it to a game 6, which is great to weaken the Cavs even more for the ECF, but if the Raptors don't win tonight they are done for in this series.
 

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Yeah they lose tonight and their doomed for the series. They may extend it to a game 6, which is great to weaken the Cavs even more for the ECF, but if the Raptors don't win tonight they are done for in this series.
yah i agree

this i have to say- i realize the Cavs are not sweeping this series to say the least...lol.....this is the game most likely to be a loss after traveling after that last series.

the only thing that gives me a little hope for this game is that Toronto may feel the pressure and the Cavs might feel better not having to deal with Stephenson and Oladipo and how freaking physical the Pacers were.
 

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ROFLMAO This is so gonna be a quick series. Cavs are overmatched from top to bottom
 

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Yeah they lose tonight and their doomed for the series. They may extend it to a game 6, which is great to weaken the Cavs even more for the ECF, but if the Raptors don't win tonight they are done for in this series.


Raptors are more than capable of going into Cleveland stealing 1-2 games. I mean the lowly Pacers did
 

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Yeah they lose tonight and their doomed for the series. They may extend it to a game 6, which is great to weaken the Cavs even more for the ECF, but if the Raptors don't win tonight they are done for in this series.
The psychological toll of another defeat would be insurmountable.

They are the Pistons who could never get passed the Celtics when they need to be the Bulls who finally slayed the Pistons.
 

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Raps win but glad I took the Cavs +6.5 and the under 215 so far.
 

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here come the bitch ass Cleveland LeFloppers
 
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