Series Thread: 1) Miami Heat vs. 2) Boston Celtics

[fightinfunbags]

I don’t think you have watched much Jimmy Butler.

Is that a shot he takes in the flow of the game?

Yes.

But Butler taking that shot is more of a tendency breaker than anything else. He shoots enough 3s to keep the defense honest. But make no mistake, the 3 was open because that is the shot Horford wanted him to take.

Horford is on an island and that’s why he retreats. He’s the only one in position to guard the rim. The circumstance called for the change up or tendency breaker as you put it. Tendency breakers have value any time in the game if you take what the defense gives you and that’s who Butler has been.

 

[tlance]

Horford is on an island and that’s why he retreats. He’s the only one in position to guard the rim. The circumstance called for the change up or tendency breaker as you put it. Tendency breakers have value any time in the game if you take what the defense gives you and that’s who Butler has been.

Bro.

If you don’t think Jimmy Butler scores that ball 1 on 1 attacking the rim than I don’t know what to say.

Jimmy Butler is one of the best finishers in the league in those situations.

He has shot under 25% from 3 in each of his seasons in Miami and pull-ups like that off a dead sprint are a lot more difficult than catch and shoot.

He is the best player, you want the ball in his hands for the shot and you live with the results in any decision he makes.

But 100% he should have attacked.

And it is plainly obvious.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Bro.

If you don’t think Jimmy Butler scores that ball 1 on 1 attacking the rim than I don’t know what to say.

Jimmy Butler is one of the best finishers in the league in those situations.

He has shot under 25% from 3 in each of his seasons in Miami and pull-ups like that off a dead sprint are a lot more difficult than catch and shoot.

He is the best player, you want the ball in his hands for the shot and you live with the results in any decision he makes.

But 100% he should have attacked.

And it is plainly obvious.

And my point of view says it’s easy to say that from the safety of your couch in hindsight after you know the shot doesn’t go down.

 

[LogicMan]

In all seriousness...

Part of what makes the last two series wins by the Celtics great is that Tatum has not been the best player on the court.

• Giannis was the best player in the Milwaukee series.
• Butler was the best player in the Heat series.

That's no knock on Tatum... it's just a fact.

But the Celtics had the best team... this is a special group. The C's are big, physical, switchy and interchangeable... usually the brightest superstar wins in the NBA playoffs, but on odd occasions a team unit that especially plays elite defense can overcome.

We'll see if Boston can keep that train going against Golden State... gotta win the Championship for it to really mean something big.

Perfectly said

 

[tlance]

And my point of view says it’s easy to say that from the safety of your couch in hindsight after you know the shot doesn’t go down.

It is just as easy to say it before the shot is taken.

Down 2 with the ball, 20 seconds left is a situation every team practices many times.

Offense needs to attack for a high percentage shot. Does not have to be a 3, and especially shouldn’t be a quick 3 from a low percentage shooter.

Jimmy Butler had 35 points and almost all of them were attacking the rim.

You take that shot if you are Jayson Tatum. If you are Jimmy Butler you attack.

And you know for a fact Al Horford was happy when Butler pulled up.

 

[fightinfunbags]

It is just as easy to say it before the shot is taken.

Down 2 with the ball, 20 seconds left is a situation every team practices many times.

Offense needs to attack for a high percentage shot. Does not have to be a 3, and especially shouldn’t be a quick 3 from a low percentage shooter.

Jimmy Butler had 35 points and almost all of them were attacking the rim.

You take that shot if you are Jayson Tatum. If you are Jimmy Butler you attack.

And you know for a fact Al Horford was happy when Butler pulled up.

We must have been watching 2 different games. If I’m the Heat, I play for the win in regulation. Butler played all 48 and outside of Bam he received no help elsewhere. Projecting that game another 5 minutes doesn’t bode well for the Heat in my opinion.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Nice win Celtics.

Heck of a final game.

 

[tlance]

We must have been watching 2 different games. If I’m the Heat, I play for the win in regulation. Butler played all 48 and outside of Bam he received no help elsewhere. Projecting that game another 5 minutes doesn’t bode well for the Heat in my opinion.

That sounds great in theory, but that Butler shot was a Hail Mary.

Lillard’s chances of hitting that 40 footer we’re about the same as Butler’s chances of hitting that.

Great if it goes in, but probably gets Miami about a 12-15% chance of winning the game at best.

Tying the score there gives them at least 25-30%

Can’t avoid a chance for OT on your home court because you are tired. Celtics had 4 guys play over 40 minutes and were in the process of choking away a seemingly insurmountable lead.

I think Miami wins if it goes OT.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Anybody know what happened to P.J. Tucker? Did Spo just sit him or was he hurt? Surprised he only played 17 minutes and was subbed out at 8:30 of the 3Q and never returned.

 

[trojanfan12]

But yeah i don't want too sound like too much of a homer.

Really? This is you not wanting to sound like too much of a homer?

 

[trojanfan12]

The problem was he was never good enough to be the man. However, Tatum is. We just haven't seen tatum's prime until like January, although he was coming into it by 2020s.

2010s Tatum was like 90s kobe

This is 2020s of him is a whole new beast

And jaylen is hitting his peak years as a top 15ish player

So curry is Tatum, brown is klay, smart is draymond.

Danny ainge went out and built the east coast warriors. They just told him to f*ck off before letting them grow and most importantly letting their best player peak (Tatum).

I can see this as a start of a dynasty. It's just about Rob Williams or somebody replacing Horford in a few seasons. But Horford at this point in his career is just a Robert Horry type anyway. The big 3 is already there Tatum brown smart

And what does any of this have to do with Jaylen Brown not being a hall of famer?

 

[fightinfunbags]

And what does any of this have to do with Jaylen Brown not being a hall of famer?

He just got into his Rain Man flow posting the same shit over and over again rocking back and forth saying Tatum the GOAT…definitely the GOAT…5 minutes to Wapner…Tatum is the GOAT.

 

[trojanfan12]

Sorry but grant hill never reached best in the world status like current Tatum, not even close.

lol

He wasn't even the best player in the last 2 series, let alone the world.

 

[trojanfan12]

He's dominating with no all nba guys on his team,

Wait!?! What?

I thought he has a future hall of famer as a teammate?

 

[DJ]

Bro.

If you don’t think Jimmy Butler scores that ball 1 on 1 attacking the rim than I don’t know what to say.

Jimmy Butler is one of the best finishers in the league in those situations.

He has shot under 25% from 3 in each of his seasons in Miami and pull-ups like that off a dead sprint are a lot more difficult than catch and shoot.

He is the best player, you want the ball in his hands for the shot and you live with the results in any decision he makes.

But 100% he should have attacked.

And it is plainly obvious.

Yeah, Butler is a beast at attacking the basket.

 

[DJ]

Y'all posting on here when y'all should have been sleeping.....LOL.

 

[DJ]

Tatum wasn't even the best player in this series.

He's certainly not the best player in the NBA.

Nope and nope.

Some say he isn't even top 5.

 

[trojanfan12]

He just got into his Rain Man flow posting the same shit over and over again rocking back and forth saying Tatum the GOAT…definitely the GOAT…5 minutes to Wapner…Tatum is the GOAT.

Evidently it's GOATUM now. lol

 

[Shanemansj13]

lol

He wasn't even the best player in the last 2 series, let alone the world.

Wonder what that makes Kawhi if Tatum is GOAT? The load management GOAT?

 

[Wamu]

I'm just calling it how i see it. People are underrating the hell out of Tatum due to his pre prime growing pains. You have to remember that players don't hit their true primes until about 23 years old (which would be this season for tatum).

(1)Jayson Tatum is like the wing version of Tim Duncan to give you a comparison.

(2)Alltime great defense but he's still going to give you 25PPG and very good passing.

This is Tatum's 3rd conference finals and he's 3-1 in game sevens, his only loss in game sevens were when he was a teenager 19 years old against prime lebron.

Tied Kobe for most playoff points at 24 years old - can get 5-6 assists any game - 6-7 rebs any game and elite defense. He's basically the perfect player.

1- (No he's not.)

2- How can Tatum be an all time great defender when he's yet to make an all defensive team?