RangersReds03
Well-Known Member
Stamkos
Doughty
Lundqvist (Homer Pick)
Doughty
Lundqvist (Homer Pick)
Laugh my balls off!!!
I'm surprised so many people are picking Toews. He had a great playoff run this year, but he's never cracked a point per game in 3 seasons, never even registered 45 assists in a season, and isn't one of the 10 best forwards in the league today. Hell, he's not even the best forward on his team. No doubt he'll continue to get better, but so will Kane, Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos, etc.
I agree. Excluding Hawks fans, I can't believe someone would take Toews over Ovechkin or Crosby. Unless they just want to be different, there is no real reason to do so. The only reason to argue Toews over OV would be Toews has won the Cup, in which case take Crosby. Those two are on another level than Toews.
Toews can't be measured by just points. He takes (and wins) faceoffs, is infinitely better defensively than Kane, and sometimes is up against the top line of the opposition. And LEGIT leadership. He's the second F I'd take, behind:
F: Ovechkin. I don't care what the cap hit is. Pencil him in for 40-45 a year, most likely 50+ in a healthy season.
D: Doughty. Good, young talent that will be good for a long, long time. More of a physical presence than Keith.
G: Hard to argue with The Miller, however, Bobby Lou's cap hit at 5.33 isn't that hard to swallow
Beer: If staying with generic, fairly mass-produced stuff, give me a Labatt's Classic. A couple more bucks than Blue, but a significant upgrade. For micros, I'm all over Granville Island. Their summer rotation includes a hefeweizen that may be the best wheat beer I've ever had out of a bottle.
Didn't see much of the Olympics, I take it.
Olympic MOST valuable player. Stanley Cup Playoffs MOST valuable player. And I should hope a steady feast of the Isles (and SE division) has Crosby score more points.
And btw, Henrik Sedin >>>>> Crosby. Look at the points last year. And MVP voting.
Toews, Sedin >>>>>>>>>>>> Crosby, OV.
Don't let homerism and seasons long past cloud your judgement.
Don't base my NHL franchise on a 2 week hockey tournament. Especially one with different rules than the NHL. Especially when certain clubs are stacked.
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BTW whoever gave me the neg rep... No. OV and Sid have not won Olympic best forward. So what? If that's your deciding factor than: LOL. Toews has never hit 70 points in an NHL season. Sid had 72 when he missed over 1/3 of a year with injury. OV nearly scored that many goals in a year. Yeah. Toews has leadership blah blah blah. I'm certain the Caps and Pens are gonna be fine with OV and Sid as the respective captains of those teams. Toews is good defensively blah blah blah. His defense compared to OV and Sid's doesn't even begin to make up for his offense.
I like Toews. He's a great player. He had an amazing year. But....
OV, Sid
Toews. Even with his best forward at the Olympics honor. And his Conn Smythe playoff run that wasn't even as productive as Crosby's Cup campaign year.
(I'm gonna get another neg rep for this me thinks)
Honus, just for clarity, I DID NOT give you a negative rep. I have never given anybody a negative rep (and never will unless by accident). As far as I'm concerned, you're a good poster.
That being said, no need to get all high and mighty and then turn around and be all butt hurt about something when people disagree. YOU were the one in posts 52 and 54 who said there is (paraphrasing) "no reason to pick Toews over Crosby or OV unless they are just trying to be different". That is just dripping with arrogance man. I guess I just don't measure up to your hockey acumen. I provided you guys with the reasons I made my decision and I even said that my way was not 100% right and that others were 100% wrong. I also even said that picking Crosby or OV would both be excellent choices. Whether you intended it or not, your posts basically belittle anybody who'd pick Toews over OV or Crosby (even though the Salary Cap still applies in my hypothetical). Come on man, you're better than that.
Was THE MILLER
Honus, just for clarity, I DID NOT give you a negative rep (even though I don't believe you think that I was the one that gave it to you). I have never given anybody a negative rep (and never will unless by accident); but then again, I don't really care much about the whole rep thing anyway.....posters here either like me or they don't.....who cares. As far as I'm concerned, you're a good poster.
That being said, no need to get all high and mighty and then turn around and be all butt hurt about something when people disagree. YOU were the one in posts 52 and 54 who said there is (paraphrasing) "no reason to pick Toews over Crosby or OV unless they are just trying to be different". That is just dripping with arrogance man. I guess I just don't measure up to your hockey acumen. I provided you guys with the reasons I made my decision and I even said that my way was not 100% right and that others were 100% wrong. I also even said that picking Crosby or OV would both be excellent choices. Whether you intended it or not, your posts basically belittle anybody who'd pick Toews over OV or Crosby (even though the Salary Cap still applies in my hypothetical). Come on man, you're better than that.
You are 100% correct IPW, but I believe he was referring to Toews winning the Most Valuable Forward in the Olympics.