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Has the Trump 2020 collusion investigation started yet? Or are they waiting until Monday?

I wonder, is mueller still the impeccable honorable man now ?

On to the next thing. Adam Schiff just said he believes Trump was born in Kenya.

We the USA should have been investigating how the Russians, Chinese, and other country is trying to influence our elections. While at the same time I hope we are doing the same to other countries. It is clear that the left, politicians, media and people in the USA was more interested in trying to remove Trump from office or keep him from winning in two years.

Jim Carrey's latest painting.

Adam Schiff said he had direct evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.


(He lied.)


They claimed Republicans don’t want transparency.


(We do.)


They said Trump will interfere with the report.


(He didn’t.)


The misinformation about the Mueller probe is rampant.

Some poster here fell for this !!! Ha ha ha

The Electoral College has been on life support since a chad—specifically a “hanging” chad—tipped the White House to George W. Bush in 2000. The painful reality of how our Constitution works was never more apparent. The Gore/Lieberman ticket won the popular vote 50,994,086 to 50,461,092 but lost the electoral vote 266 to 271.

There was a lot more to it, but the punchline is that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Bush the winner because he won the electoral vote. It’s a tribute to the American national character that we weathered that cataclysm without civil war, but it left a bad taste in the electorate’s mouth.

During the 2016 Republican primary, when it looked as if Donald Trump would win the popular vote but still not reach the delegate threshold for nomination, that bad taste turned sour. Riding high on populism and “throw the bums out,” Trump complained that the election was rigged because the people wanted him, and whomever the people wanted, they should get. Fortunately for the country, Trump reached the delegate threshold, and we were spared a debacle that would have made 2000’s cataclysm look like a lemonade stand.

Cue the national election. No controversy, scandal, “info dump,” lie, corruption, defection, or dirty trick has been left unturned. Why would election night go smoothly? Frankly, the plane is going down no matter who wins; it’s only a question of water or land and how many survivors there will be. Chances aren’t looking good for the Electoral College.

“This is a democracy,” the people cry. “It should be one person-one vote, and that stupid Electoral College needs to go!” Poor Electoral College. So misunderstood. If the Electoral College has to go, it has to go, but we should at least buy it dinner first. While we’re at it, we might as well get to know it better.

Trust History: You Don’t Want Mob Rule
The sad lot of the Electoral College is that what you see isn’t what you get. Like the counter-intuitive fact that a tire blowout on the right requires a steering wheel correction to the left, the EC works backwards. What appears to deprive the populace of its power to decide a president is the very mechanism that preserves its power. It works that way because this isn’t a democracy; not a pure one.
Pure democracy” is just another phrase for “mob rule.” Dictatorship of the majority means 51 percent of the citizenry rule the other 49 percent. That minority has no rights except those the condescending majority grants. It works well for those in the 51 percent, not so much for those in the 49. Plato knew it, and James Madison, who knew his Plato, did too. Plato and Madison both recognized that justice and liberty for the minority is possible only when power is shared between groups in society.

Plato’s “Republic” heavily influenced Madison and the other framers to devise a Constitution that protected the minority. Plato held that the ideal, i.e., just, form of government was one in which power was shared correctly between workers, warriors, and rulers. Madison held that the ideal, i.e., American, form of government was one in which power was shared correctly between judges, lawmakers, and rulers.

Inspired as it is, our Constitution protects the minority while preserving the best of democracy: we the people elect representatives to run the government (republic) and we do so by majority vote (democracy). Ergo, this is a democratic republic. Ergo, an Electoral College.

The Electoral College Balances Voting Power
The purpose of the Electoral College is to balance voting power across states so no one region of the country can gain too much control. If a president is elected by a simple majority of votes, a candidate who is wildly popular in one region (e.g., Ted Cruz in Texas, Mitt Romney in Utah) can ignore smaller regions and campaign only where large majorities are possible. Or a candidate who kills in California and New York can write off “flyover country” completely.
If, however, the Electoral College elects a president, a candidate who is wildly popular in one region must also prevail in a number of sub-elections to win. The Electoral College ensures a better result for the country as a whole than the democratic power play wherein 51 percent of us matter and 49 percent of us don’t.

Think of the Electoral College like the World Series. One person-one vote equates to the World Series Champions being determined by total number of runs scored. If the Dodgers win the first game 10-0, and the Yankees win the next four games 1-0, the Dodgers win the series. Even though the Yankees bested the Dodgers in four games, it doesn’t matter because the Dodgers scored 10 runs to their 4. One anomalous game decides the whole series. Without the Electoral College, a few heavily populated states decide the whole election.

So, the poor Electoral College sits condemned before its last meal because its power is misunderstood. How ironic—and tragic if no stay-of-execution arrives—that those who clamor for “one person-one vote” are seeking more power at the expense of power they already have.

This is why we have an electoral college and why it needs to stand

It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD

A history of lies told by our press and our congress.

Some people on this board bought everyone of them

It's good that there was no Russian collusion, right? Right??" If they say "No." there's no need to speak any further.

Where are our lib buddies? The letter from Barr has been released. No collusion or no conclusion of obstructing justice, but I’m sure the fruit loops will still continue to harass POTUS with useless investigations. After all, that’s the only chance they have. I’m sure their dumbasses are still taking the bait on the tax forms.

#stillthesmartestmanintheroom

The “hey we are just journos doing our jobs now” posture on CNN is a flagrant distraction tactic and part of all the dishonesty here


Do not forget what they said. Do not forget what they did. It was appalling.

Triggered republicans are hilarious.

Let’s face it, it was never so much about “getting to the bottom of election integrity” as it was a way for the NeverTrumpers, Democrats, and Trump-deranged Leftists to make themselves feel better about an election result they ALL got so wrong.

chillerdab said:

Triggered republicans are hilarious.

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BS socialists libs can’t admit they are
Wrong

Hamas mouth piece

skinsdad62 said:

Hamas mouth piece

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She is impeachment material. I can't help but wonder what idiots voted for her. AOC is a nut job but Omar is dangerious IMO. It brings to mind a certain president who refused to call terrorist Muslims "radical."

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5779689/Mueller-report-conclusions-from-AG-Barr.pdf

The left media, congress and even some here told us they had proof that there was collusion. LMAO!!! LIARS!!! I could care less whether you like Trump or not. We are all allowed to have our opinions but clearly this was a witch hunt and clearly the media used their pulpit to lie to the American people. Shame on this countries media and the harm they are willing to do to our country for their own personal purposes.

chillerdab said:

Triggered republicans are hilarious.

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Hey! There’s one! What’s the new liberal talking point now? I’m pretty sure I know what it is, but I’ll wait and see how long it takes you

Now it’s time to get this investigation pointed in the right direction. Coming for you clintons and obummers