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he got fired because Bruce Allen is a ego maniac who wants all the credit
CSI CSI CSI whatever neting 2 starters in 17 picks bring in sucky fa which cause 10 million payout on players that play here no more had nothing to do with it o yeah sm wanted to trade cousins also
 

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Well in SF, the QBS were Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick.

In Seattle it was Russell Wilson.

Both of those teams won on defense. Damn we could use some defense here couldn't we?
who where there coaches on D and do we have some of them coaches now??
 

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How many more big games does Russell Wilson need to win, often with last minute heroics, before he is recognized as a good QB around here anyway?
 

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I meant what SM has done here not his past.
With SM in charge we won the division and managed to not regress a year later. Can you say that about Bruce any place he had been ever?
 

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With SM in charge we won the division and managed to not regress a year later. Can you say that about Bruce any place he had been ever?

you cant give Sm all the credit for the two winning seasons. that is crazy.
 

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you cant give Sm all the credit for the two winning seasons. that is crazy.


Thing is you don't want to give him any credit because admitting he was the main reason for the team improving means accepting that firing him was probably a mistake. And you hold a grudge against him for not selecting williams
 

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Thing is you don't want to give him any credit because admitting he was the main reason for the team improving means accepting that firing him was probably a mistake. And you hold a grudge against him for not selecting williams
so true
 

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See, I don't even say firing him wasn't justified because I don't know exactly what went on behind the scenes. Do I think we are worse off without him? Hell yes. Bruce Allen does not know what he is doing.
 

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Thing is you don't want to give him any credit because admitting he was the main reason for the team improving means accepting that firing him was probably a mistake. And you hold a grudge against him for not selecting williams

Completely false. How does SM get credit from KC production with Gruden? How does SM get credit when none of his FA and draft picks made a significant impact in the last two years? This was all explained before by dgfan. Im not getting into this again.
 

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Completely false. How does SM get credit from KC production with Gruden? How does SM get credit when none of his FA and draft picks made a significant impact in the last two years? This was all explained before by dgfan. Im not getting into this again.


If scot were not hire, rg3 would still be the starter. So scot gets credit for that period. Because Bruce would not give up on the golden child.
 

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If scot were not hire, rg3 would still be the starter. So scot gets credit for that period. Because Bruce would not give up on the golden child.

that is suck bullshit and you know it. Gruden wanted KC.
 

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that is suck bullshit and you know it. Gruden wanted KC.

Actually, Shanahan wanted KC.

Gruden was brought here for RG3, undeniable fact. That is why he got the job.

KC was an afterthought. Now it can't be proven, but we can theorize the change was made to KC, or at least given approval by SM.
 

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that is suck bullshit and you know it. Gruden wanted KC.


Yep, Gruden wanted KC in 2014 as well, and was told to start Griffin. Let the hate flow as much as you want Dean. But any one with a shred of common sense knows that if Scot had not been in the building, Kirk never gets into the game for any reason other than injury. We would have never franchised him last year, and they would likely still be trying to make it work with Griffin.
 

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ok lets go through the list here

SM instrumental in getting KC the starting gig by giving gruden another voice on his side
SM's draft service was used to draft reed and all the other "stars " that BA "allegedly " found
he was GM when we went for our first back to back winning seasons since the 90's
he drafted a PB OG and he drafted crowder straight up . preston smith is a contributor on defense ,
he signed davis, josh norman (the falling into his lap defense is hogwash ) kelly our starting RB dunbar our dime CB , he found foster , our starting RB will blacmon nsexy the best swing tackle in the nfl
he drafted our potential starting wr in dox our 3rd round slot cb coming of major surgery our starting safety

my challenge to anyone here is find a redskins GM , in the past 2 decades who has hit well on free agency ?

this guy has given us 29 draft picks in 2 years

he has built 2 superbowl teams while danny and bruce have built 0 in 30 plus years in football

now SM made mistakes as all GM's do but all dean does is use 20/20 hindsight to believe he is better . he took a gamble and traded down , and he ended up with jones . we dont know is he would have picked johnson if he was there but dean cant give that up

dean is embarrassed by the sherff pick because he spent all of that draft off season telling shark and i how stupid we were for thinking sherf should be the guy and when we were right he pouted like a baby because 2 old school guys thought for themselves and his zombie , sheep ass couldnt handle it . so he hates SM for making him look like a fool

yeah sure we could have drafted williams but then the hole at OG exists . and know you just dont goo out and pick up PB guards off of trees

dean, football wise , worships at the alter of pundits , many times they are very wrong and are uninformed about our teams needs . kiper has been wrong so many times its pathetic , mcshay mocks people to us he hasnt studied on numerous occassions . he believes pundits can do know wrong , "experts " are never wrong because thinking for himslef does not compute

sure take experts and what they say as meaningful , but they arent the end all be all either

now i hope the team BA and snyder put together is a good one . so far their off season has been pretty good . i like the pryor , brown and swearinger signings . we havent given up draft picks . however the d/lineman signings are questionable and the KC fiasco is uneeded drama which , if SM was allowed to do his job would have been fixed already

right now the team is in the same position it was 3 years ago . an out of control ownership team that wont let professionals do their jobs and build a consistent winning football team

getting rid of SM and how they did it just sent a message to any GM that he wont have the say to build the team he wants using his philosophy and he will be the scapegoat if "they " fail . and if you are too good and get too much credit then the petty FO will cut you loose
 

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Yep, Gruden wanted KC in 2014 as well, and was told to start Griffin. Let the hate flow as much as you want Dean. But any one with a shred of common sense knows that if Scot had not been in the building, Kirk never gets into the game for any reason other than injury. We would have never franchised him last year, and they would likely still be trying to make it work with Griffin.

wrong RG3 was benched by Gruden after the tampa game. How quickly we forget.
 

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ok lets go through the list here

SM instrumental in getting KC the starting gig by giving gruden another voice on his side
SM's draft service was used to draft reed and all the other "stars " that BA "allegedly " found
he was GM when we went for our first back to back winning seasons since the 90's
he drafted a PB OG and he drafted crowder straight up . preston smith is a contributor on defense ,
he signed davis, josh norman (the falling into his lap defense is hogwash ) kelly our starting RB dunbar our dime CB , he found foster , our starting RB will blacmon nsexy the best swing tackle in the nfl
he drafted our potential starting wr in dox our 3rd round slot cb coming of major surgery our starting safety

my challenge to anyone here is find a redskins GM , in the past 2 decades who has hit well on free agency ?

this guy has given us 29 draft picks in 2 years

he has built 2 superbowl teams while danny and bruce have built 0 in 30 plus years in football

now SM made mistakes as all GM's do but all dean does is use 20/20 hindsight to believe he is better . he took a gamble and traded down , and he ended up with jones . we dont know is he would have picked johnson if he was there but dean cant give that up

dean is embarrassed by the sherff pick because he spent all of that draft off season telling shark and i how stupid we were for thinking sherf should be the guy and when we were right he pouted like a baby because 2 old school guys thought for themselves and his zombie , sheep ass couldnt handle it . so he hates SM for making him look like a fool

yeah sure we could have drafted williams but then the hole at OG exists . and know you just dont goo out and pick up PB guards off of trees

dean, football wise , worships at the alter of pundits , many times they are very wrong and are uninformed about our teams needs . kiper has been wrong so many times its pathetic , mcshay mocks people to us he hasnt studied on numerous occassions . he believes pundits can do know wrong , "experts " are never wrong because thinking for himslef does not compute

sure take experts and what they say as meaningful , but they arent the end all be all either

now i hope the team BA and snyder put together is a good one . so far their off season has been pretty good . i like the pryor , brown and swearinger signings . we havent given up draft picks . however the d/lineman signings are questionable and the KC fiasco is uneeded drama which , if SM was allowed to do his job would have been fixed already

right now the team is in the same position it was 3 years ago . an out of control ownership team that wont let professionals do their jobs and build a consistent winning football team

getting rid of SM and how they did it just sent a message to any GM that he wont have the say to build the team he wants using his philosophy and he will be the scapegoat if "they " fail . and if you are too good and get too much credit then the petty FO will cut you loose

Keep telling yourself about the trade down. Of course you wont admit it was one of the worst Redskins draft blunders in history. What you don't realize is that Sm gave Paea a bunch of money to fix the De hole and FAILED. He justified the Paea signing not to draft Williams which is crazy.

Any pundit would have made SM drafts better so I don't know where you are going with this. Any normal fan or pundit would of had Williams and Johnson already on this team. Which would make this team better.

Plus you are forgetting that SM wanted KC to prove to him that he was the real deal this year. Sm gave him the franchise tag last year. SM lowballed Kc last year. He had full control any other theory is just bullshit. The drafts and FA were not handled correctly and that is on SM. Cant deny that.
 

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Allen is in charge of contracts, not SM.

Paea did not get that much and was never healthy.

So trading down in the third is one of the biggest blunders ever? Drama queen.
 

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Keep telling yourself about the trade down. Of course you wont admit it was one of the worst Redskins draft blunders in history. What you don't realize is that Sm gave Paea a bunch of money to fix the De hole and FAILED. He justified the Paea signing not to draft Williams which is crazy.

Any pundit would have made SM drafts better so I don't know where you are going with this. Any normal fan or pundit would of had Williams and Johnson already on this team. Which would make this team better.

Plus you are forgetting that SM wanted KC to prove to him that he was the real deal this year. Sm gave him the franchise tag last year. SM lowballed Kc last year. He had full control any other theory is just bullshit. The drafts and FA were not handled correctly and that is on SM. Cant deny that.
drafting RG3 wasnt ? or shuler ? please drama queen
 

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Keep telling yourself about the trade down. Of course you wont admit it was one of the worst Redskins draft blunders in history. What you don't realize is that Sm gave Paea a bunch of money to fix the De hole and FAILED. He justified the Paea signing not to draft Williams which is crazy.

Any pundit would have made SM drafts better so I don't know where you are going with this. Any normal fan or pundit would of had Williams and Johnson already on this team. Which would make this team better.

Plus you are forgetting that SM wanted KC to prove to him that he was the real deal this year. Sm gave him the franchise tag last year. SM lowballed Kc last year. He had full control any other theory is just bullshit. The drafts and FA were not handled correctly and that is on SM. Cant deny that.
they did give paea a bunch of money and he failed how much money did allen give haynesworth ?
 
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