Dalvin Cook at 17

[duke1861]

You know, just thinking about it, this team needs a top of the line talent evaluator......Oh wait!

Don't say that too loud. You literally have posters here who believe we will have the draft of the century. We had to crush this offseason but at this time it has been substandard. If we do not get on track, this offseason will retard the organization for 5 years. Bookmark this thread.

 

[skinsdad62]

We are a 500 football team you will not fix every hole this team has in an offseason. We signed 5 free agents in which. 2 could could be answers . One at wr one at safety . The othe d/ lineman might have us tread water . I. The draft you might get. 3 answers that can help us by year 2 . So we will still have holes and we haven't gotten to depth yet. I like Mixon and I'd we get him we solve one hole at the expense of another. Which is ok

 

[duke1861]

We are a 500 football team you will not fix every hole this team has in an offseason. We signed 5 free agents in which. 2 could could be answers . One at wr one at safety . The othe d/ lineman might have us tread water . I. The draft you might get. 3 answers that can help us by year 2 . So we will still have holes and we haven't gotten to depth yet. I like Mixon and I'd we get him we solve one hole at the expense of another. Which is ok

Wrong Skinsdad, we were a .500 team in 2016 that just:

- fired the GM
- lost a good offensive coordinator
- hired a proven loser defensive coordinator
- have a unsettled QB situation that appears at this point is not repairable
- have taken a step sideways with a disaster of a DLine
- lost two 1,000 yard WRs
- have the worst ILB tandem in the entire NFL
- have Bruce Allen about to run a draft for us
- our two slated WR to start have a combined 1 year of NFL starting experience with one appearing to be injury prone

Should I go on what we are going up against?

We could have practically addressed every need and I showed how that could have been done. I do like some of our signings but we have more to do. Again, I presented a realistic plan to address these needs.

Going in to 2018, we will have major problems. You have to admit that the future does not seem bright at this point and there is no reason for it. I fully expect the draft to be poor and I am not sure why you actually seem excited and feel that we will come out with needs addressed. Perhaps you know more about this FO than I do but I see no evidence that the draft will provide any kind of relief at this point.

This all goes away with signing Hankins, an ILB and signing Kirk to LTD. All of which the FO refuses to do.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

We are a 500 football team you will not fix every hole this team has in an offseason. We signed 5 free agents in which. 2 could could be answers . One at wr one at safety . The othe d/ lineman might have us tread water . I. The draft you might get. 3 answers that can help us by year 2 . So we will still have holes and we haven't gotten to depth yet. I like Mixon and I'd we get him we solve one hole at the expense of another. Which is ok

this could be the case because if you have a kickass offense like top 3 your defense can stuggle a little and you will be ok a good running game can do wonders( time management , longer drives gives defense more rest etc etc) good point

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

Wrong Skinsdad, we were a .500 team in 2016 that just:

- fired the GM
- lost a good offensive coordinator
- hired a proven loser defensive coordinator
- have a unsettled QB situation that appears at this point is not repairable
- have taken a step sideways with a disaster of a DLine
- lost two 1,000 yard WRs
- have the worst ILB tandem in the entire NFL
- have Bruce Allen about to run a draft for us
- our two slated WR to start have a combined 1 year of NFL starting experience with one appearing to be injury prone

Should I go on what we are going up against?

We could have practically addressed every need and I showed how that could have been done. I do like some of our signings but we have more to do. Again, I presented a realistic plan to address these needs.

Going in to 2018, we will have major problems. You have to admit that the future does not seem bright at this point and there is no reason for it. I fully expect the draft to be poor and I am not sure why you actually seem excited and feel that we will come out with needs addressed. Perhaps you know more about this FO than I do but I see no evidence that the draft will provide any kind of relief at this point.

This all goes away with signing Hankins, an ILB and signing Kirk to LTD. All of which the FO refuses to do.

ok so draft foster or reddick that fixes ilb then draft tapu thats solves nt a cheaper one 2 out of 3

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

some of those wr yards are junk yards skins get down by 14 and they have to stop running the ball to make my point shorter there are to many verables in those passing yards to say they will be missed and im sure cowder pyor doctson and reed can beat that total by 500 plus . and if are running game improves it will minus them totals also

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

and since we are talking facts once again you left out as of now scott picks have not done shit allen and shany picks are leading this team now if scott picks come legit players lets say in2018 or beyond then scott is a fucking genuis last year picks have promise undrafed kelly , fuller doctson but the bulk of skins talent is allen and shany

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

williams and reed, vs shreff and docson get my point

 

[duke1861]

and since we are talking facts once again you left out as of now scott picks have not done shit allen and shany picks are leading this team now if scott picks come legit players lets say in2018 or beyond then scott is a fucking genuis last year picks have promise undrafed kelly , fuller doctson but the bulk of skins talent is allen and shany

I am sorry and I am trying to be nice here but you aren't making sense. Shanny isn't here anymore so Bruce will be making the picks. SM's 2015 class was great but his 2016 class was not strong at all. Bruce will now be in charge and he is not known for being a talent evaluator. He is good with the cap but under his leadership, this offseason has been an unmitigated disaster. I am not sure what to tell you if you can't grasp that concept.

You keep saying that all we have to do is draft an ILB and NT in the first two rounds. You have no earthly idea if that will happen so stop acting like its set in stone. Once again, if Bruce can't nail down a LTC with the best QB we have had in 20 years, please explain to us why you honestly feel why Bruce will make logical draft decisions? To further prove my point, what has Bruce done to improve one of the worst defenses in the NFL? I like the Swearinger signing and the DLine signings were ok at best. Again, if Bruce can't make logical moves with plenty of cap space, why in the world would you expect him to draft positions of need?

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

I am sorry and I am trying to be nice here but you aren't making sense. Shanny isn't here anymore so Bruce will be making the picks. SM's 2015 class was great but his 2016 class was not strong at all. Bruce will now be in charge and he is not known for being a talent evaluator. He is good with the cap but under his leadership, this offseason has been an unmitigated disaster. I am not sure what to tell you if you can't grasp that concept.

You keep saying that all we have to do is draft an ILB and NT in the first two rounds. You have no earthly idea if that will happen so stop acting like its set in stone. Once again, if Bruce can't nail down a LTC with the best QB we have had in 20 years, please explain to us why you honestly feel why Bruce will make logical draft decisions? To further prove my point, what has Bruce done to improve one of the worst defenses in the NFL? I like the Swearinger signing and the DLine signings were ok at best. Again, if Bruce can't make logical moves with plenty of cap space, why in the world would you expect him to draft positions of need?

dont set there and think bruce will make awful picks when we have scouts gruden and dc making the call also you think allen just making the call on a pick that he wants fuck allthe scouts and coaches get real

 

[duke1861]

some of those wr yards are junk yards skins get down by 14 and they have to stop running the ball to make my point shorter there are to many verables in those passing yards to say they will be missed and im sure cowder pyor doctson and reed can beat that total by 500 plus . and if are running game improves it will minus them totals also

And that is your opinion and you failed to address the fact that we have taken a step back in the WR department. You cannot logically tell me or anyone else here that Pryor/Doctson will provide the same production or a little less than Garcon/DJax. A better running game will help but not as much as you are implying. It makes no sense. We would have to draft a RB fairly early and I doubt that happens.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

I am sorry and I am trying to be nice here but you aren't making sense. Shanny isn't here anymore so Bruce will be making the picks. SM's 2015 class was great but his 2016 class was not strong at all. Bruce will now be in charge and he is not known for being a talent evaluator. He is good with the cap but under his leadership, this offseason has been an unmitigated disaster. I am not sure what to tell you if you can't grasp that concept.

You keep saying that all we have to do is draft an ILB and NT in the first two rounds. You have no earthly idea if that will happen so stop acting like its set in stone. Once again, if Bruce can't nail down a LTC with the best QB we have had in 20 years, please explain to us why you honestly feel why Bruce will make logical draft decisions? To further prove my point, what has Bruce done to improve one of the worst defenses in the NFL? I like the Swearinger signing and the DLine signings were ok at best. Again, if Bruce can't make logical moves with plenty of cap space, why in the world would you expect him to draft positions of need?

dont set there and think bruce will make awful picks when we have scouts gruden and dc making the call also you think allen just making the call on a pick that he wants fuck allthe scouts and coaches get real

I am sorry and I am trying to be nice here but you aren't making sense. Shanny isn't here anymore so Bruce will be making the picks. SM's 2015 class was great but his 2016 class was not strong at all. Bruce will now be in charge and he is not known for being a talent evaluator. He is good with the cap but under his leadership, this offseason has been an unmitigated disaster. I am not sure what to tell you if you can't grasp that concept.

You keep saying that all we have to do is draft an ILB and NT in the first two rounds. You have no earthly idea if that will happen so stop acting like its set in stone. Once again, if Bruce can't nail down a LTC with the best QB we have had in 20 years, please explain to us why you honestly feel why Bruce will make logical draft decisions? To further prove my point, what has Bruce done to improve one of the worst defenses in the NFL? I like the Swearinger signing and the DLine signings were ok at best. Again, if Bruce can't make logical moves with plenty of cap space, why in the world would you expect him to draft positions of need?

and the kirk thing is kirk worth 24 mill yes or no if no then thats smart not to sign him right? and if yes then you like to overpay

 

[duke1861]

dont set there and think bruce will make awful picks when we have scouts gruden and dc making the call also you think allen just making the call on a pick that he wants fuck allthe scouts and coaches get real

LOL....that is exactly what will happen. If you don't think Bruce is running this team with complete control with approval of Dan, I am not sure what to tell you. Bruce fired SM and made up a lame excuse in doing so, he has botched the contract talk with Cousins and he has so far done little to nothing to improve this team. In all honesty, we are much worse off and its his doing.

Again, I DO NOT know what to tell you if you want to ignore the facts and evidence in this. Perhaps we should agree to disagree. You believe that Bruce is going to have a good draft and I know its not going to happen.

 

[duke1861]

and the kirk thing is kirk worth 24 mill yes or no if no then thats smart not to sign him right? and if yes then you like to overpay

The smart thing is to realize that this is the going rate for a top 5 QB from a statistic point. Its a no brainer to do the deal but Bruce screwed that up last year and continues to do so. That is the going rate for a top QB like it or not. Again, its not that hard to grasp it. Bruce doesn't like him so he will end up elsewhere in 2018 and we will once again search for another QB to lead this franchise.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

LOL....that is exactly what will happen. If you don't think Bruce is running this team with complete control with approval of Dan, I am not sure what to tell you. Bruce fired SM and made up a lame excuse in doing so, he has botched the contract talk with Cousins and he has so far done little to nothing to improve this team. In all honesty, we are much worse off and its his doing.

Again, I DO NOT know what to tell you if you want to ignore the facts and evidence in this. Perhaps we should agree to disagree. You believe that Bruce is going to have a good draft and I know its not going to happen.

um skins weekness on offense was redzone and running game so yes doctson and proyer will help in the redzone the biggest weekness on defense is stoping the run which they did get some run stoppers they maynot workout who knows so yes allen and staff see the problem i trust them httr

 

[duke1861]

um skins weekness on offense was redzone and running game so yes doctson and proyer will help in the redzone the biggest weekness on defense is stoping the run which they did get some run stoppers they maynot workout who knows so yes allen and staff see the problem i trust them httr

If you trust Bruce and the staff then we have nothing left to talk about. Wow....I didn't know they had any supporters left after the stunts they have pulled recently. I honestly don't know if you are joking or not.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

If you trust Bruce and the staff then we have nothing left to talk about. Wow....I didn't know they had any supporters left after the stunts they have pulled recently. I honestly don't know if you are joking or not.

well scott has been fired from 3 teams allen been fired by 1 tampa am not on the allen bandwagon im just saying gruden and coaching staff and allen will make the picks not just allen and by the way what they did in FA is they did adress a weekness redzone and run stopping but they still have to pan out its not like they signed 2 te and punter in FA

 

[ehb5]

Hard no to a RB with a first round pick. Especially one with that bad of a combine. And I like Cook.

 

[Skin'EmAll]

If they did draft Cook, I'm wondering if they would cut chris T for the extra cap space?

 

[skinsdad62]

If they did draft Cook, I'm wondering if they would cut chris T for the extra cap space?

why? cap space isnt an issue