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Romo got his team in the playoffs or basically carried his team to decent seasons.

& Cousins took his team to the playoffs & was within a game of doing it again. Much of the reason for not making the playoffs this season doesn't fall on Cousins. Sure - he could have made the difference in a few games but stop acting like Cousins was the primary reason why this team didn't do better.
 

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Romo got his team in the playoffs or basically carried his team to decent seasons.
This proves you are a hypocrite. That's just a double standard and 100% refutes the statement you made above about NO QB has ever been paid big money, blah blah blah. Tell us the real reason you want cousins gone.
 

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This proves you are a hypocrite. That's just a double standard and 100% refutes the statement you made above about NO QB has ever been paid big money, blah blah blah. Tell us the real reason you want cousins gone.

I don't want him gone. Im not a hypocrite. I just said listen to the offers and you guys jump down my throat.
 

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& Cousins took his team to the playoffs & was within a game of doing it again. Much of the reason for not making the playoffs this season doesn't fall on Cousins. Sure - he could have made the difference in a few games but stop acting like Cousins was the primary reason why this team didn't do better.

Of course its not KC fault. Where did you get that? He did fail in big games. You cant deny that. We now have to pay him like he won those big games. If he won those big games and won a playoff game., what would the guarantee money be then?
 

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Andrew Luck

Hmm - let's take a look at this year's games for your precious Andrew Luck. It certainly looks like he was a major reason for most of the losses (perhaps some of the poor ratings & picks were partially because of others but you could say the same for Cousins). Many of these losses involved INTs, low completion % & very low overall ratings.

Sure - there are other personnel issues for the Colts that led to the losses. However - the same can be said for the Redskins. Perhaps Luck was somewhat injured during this time. Well - if that is the case then please give props to Cousins for one of his bigger assets - he (knock on wood) never gets injured.

Maybe Cousins isn't as bad as you think.
 

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Of course its not KC fault. Where did you get that? He did fail in big games. You cant deny that. We now have to pay him like he won those big games. If he won those big games and won a playoff game., what would the guarantee money be then?

No - you work w/ Cousins to help improve in these areas while also building the team around him. If the team is better than perhaps some of his mistakes are not so magnified.
 

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Andrew Luck

Hmm - let's take a look at this year's games for your precious Andrew Luck. It certainly looks like he was a major reason for most of the losses (perhaps some of the poor ratings & picks were partially because of others but you could say the same for Cousins). Many of these losses involved INTs, low completion % & very low overall ratings.

Sure - there are other personnel issues for the Colts that led to the losses. However - the same can be said for the Redskins. Perhaps Luck was somewhat injured during this time. Well - if that is the case then please give props to Cousins for one of his bigger assets - he (knock on wood) never gets injured.

Maybe Cousins isn't as bad as you think.

Don't even compare the two last year. If Luck was on our team last year we are in the playoffs. That is crazy. Don't even go down that road.
 

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No - you work w/ Cousins to help improve in these areas while also building the team around him. If the team is better than perhaps some of his mistakes are not so magnified.

Fine, but we are to pay top dollar to work with him. you didn't answer my question. If he got us in the playoffs and won a playoff game, are you saying his ask would be higher?
 

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I don't want him gone. Im not a hypocrite. I just said listen to the offers and you guys jump down my throat.
No. You said no QB has ever been paid big money that hasnt won a big game. I gave you one. There is more.
 

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No. You said no QB has ever been paid big money that hasnt won a big game. I gave you one. There is more.

Romo got his teams in the playoffs. Yes he is a choke job, I don't deny that. This is getting way of topic here.
 

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BTW - take a look at one of this year's SB QBs - Matt Ryan. Last season he had big numbers in terms of overall yds but his TD amt (especially vs. INTs) was disappointing as was the overall record of the team & he made critical mistakes.

Remind you of anyone? I am by no means comparing Cousins to Ryan. However - it just demonstrates that a QB can improve (perhaps dramatically) from year to year. Improvement requires a combination of improved QB play, improved personnel & better coaching.
 

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BTW - take a look at one of this year's SB QBs - Matt Ryan. Last season he had big numbers in terms of overall yds but his TD amt (especially vs. INTs) was disappointing as was the overall record of the team & he made critical mistakes.

Remind you of anyone? I am by no means comparing Cousins to Ryan. However - it just demonstrates that a QB can improve (perhaps dramatically) from year to year. Improvement requires a combination of improved QB play, improved personnel & better coaching.

I am not disputing a QB cant improve.
 

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Don't even compare the two last year. If Luck was on our team last year we are in the playoffs. That is crazy. Don't even go down that road.

So Luck's sucky play was strictly because of his teammates? On the other hand any issues for Cousins are his own doing - rt? Got it.
 

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BTW - take a look at one of this year's SB QBs - Matt Ryan. Last season he had big numbers in terms of overall yds but his TD amt (especially vs. INTs) was disappointing as was the overall record of the team & he made critical mistakes.

Remind you of anyone? I am by no means comparing Cousins to Ryan. However - it just demonstrates that a QB can improve (perhaps dramatically) from year to year. Improvement requires a combination of improved QB play, improved personnel & better coaching.

Speaking in a Thursday radio interview, free agent Kirk Cousins said "it's good to be wanted" when asked about the 49ers' reported interest.

"So hopefully down the road there will be people wanting me," Cousins said. "But we’ll see how it all plays out. The unique thing about the franchise tag is if the Redskins choose to place that on me, then I’m pretty much off the market." None of it is inflammatory, but speaks to Cousins being a realist about his situation. He's not going to be handing out any hometown discounts in long-term talks.
Related: 49ers

Source: Kevin Jones on Twitter
Feb 2 - 3:01 PM
 

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But the draft picks man, the draft picks. Imagine what an awesome mock draft I could configure if we had the #2 and #17 pick in the first round.

CBS' Jason La Canfora reports the Bears will be "moving on" from Jay Cutler.




Source: CBS Sports
Feb 2 - 3:14 PM
 

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I am not disputing a QB cant improve.

OK - that being the case Cousins just had two of the biggest passing seasons ever by a Redskins QB & is one of the few Redskins QBs in the last 20 years who will be starting in his 3rd straight year. You would be willing to give that up just to pickup some draft picks?
 

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Speaking in a Thursday radio interview, free agent Kirk Cousins said "it's good to be wanted" when asked about the 49ers' reported interest.

"So hopefully down the road there will be people wanting me," Cousins said. "But we’ll see how it all plays out. The unique thing about the franchise tag is if the Redskins choose to place that on me, then I’m pretty much off the market." None of it is inflammatory, but speaks to Cousins being a realist about his situation. He's not going to be handing out any hometown discounts in long-term talks.
Related: 49ers

Source: Kevin Jones on Twitter
Feb 2 - 3:01 PM

Man you are gullible. The media throws that out just to get people to their site. Cousins is likely throwing that out there to improve his negotiation position. Not much more to it than that.
 

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OK - that being the case Cousins just had two of the biggest passing seasons ever by a Redskins QB & is one of the few Redskins QBs in the last 20 years who will be starting in his 30 straight year. You would be willing to give that up just to pickup some draft picks?

We don't know the offers yet.
 
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