Healthy Comparisons...(This ought to be fun)

[Tubbs1518]

again, based on what?

fucking eyesight.

 

[ehb5]

Thinking one of the best QBs of all time is a good comp for Kirk seems a bit aggressive.

 

[Sharkinva]

Thinking one of the best QBs of all time is a good comp for Kirk seems a bit aggressive.

Except that the main complaints about keeping Cousins seem to center around the idea of "Well he is no Rogers/Brady/Brees/Prescott/Wilson/Manning/Rothlisberger/Stafford."

Did I miss any one who it has been explained in detail that Cousins is NOT, there fore we should consider going in a different direction??

 

[ehb5]

Except that the main complaints about keeping Cousins seem to center around the idea of "Well he is no Rogers/Brady/Brees/Prescott/Wilson/Manning/Rothlisberger/Stafford."

Did I miss any one who it has been explained in detail that Cousins is NOT, there fore we should consider going in a different direction??

Not sure I understand what youre saying.

 

[Sharkinva]

Not sure I understand what youre saying.

What Im saying (and I know you have figured this out) is that we are comparing Kirk to these guys, yet you say it a bit aggressive to do exactly what has been done already. .

The main reasons people have been saying we should consider not resigning Kirk is because he isnt Elite. So by that statement alone you are in fact comparing him to the greatest QBs of all time and saying that because he doesnt measure up, he might not be good enough to keep.

Kapish??

 

[Sportster 72]

True Chill, but although I expect Cousins can be different I allowed for some difference because of the differences in offenses now. Clearly Cousins 2nd year as a started was 15th all time in the NFL. I do think if Green had not got hurt in preseason his first year in St. Louis I think his 2nd year numbers would have been much better.

I think my comparison to Stafford and Matty Ice are closer and although it is hard to predict I think Cousins could have a career that was somewhat Brees like.

 

[ehb5]

What Im saying (and I know you have figured this out) is that we are comparing Kirk to these guys, yet you say it a bit aggressive to do exactly what has been done already. .

The main reasons people have been saying we should consider not resigning Kirk is because he isnt Elite. So by that statement alone you are in fact comparing him to the greatest QBs of all time and saying that because he doesnt measure up, he might not be good enough to keep.

Kapish??

You can compare whoever you want to whoever you want I couldnt care less. Comparisons are good. But to say the expectation is that he is/will be as good as one of the best QBs ever is most definitely aggressive.

 

[Sharkinva]

You can compare whoever you want to whoever you want I couldnt care less. Comparisons are good. But to say the expectation is that he is/will be as good as one of the best QBs ever is most definitely aggressive.

The very premise that has been put forth is that Kirk doesnt deserve to get paid like an elite because he doesnt compare to guys getting paid in that range. By making this statement, people are directly comparing him to some of the best to ever play the position because they are saying he doesnt deserve to be paid like those players.

 

[Sportster 72]

You can compare whoever you want to whoever you want I couldnt care less. Comparisons are good. But to say the expectation is that he is/will be as good as one of the best QBs ever is most definitely aggressive.

I don't see where shark compared him to an elite QB. Instead he inferred that those who don't like him often remind us he is not Rodgers, Brady etc.

 

[ehb5]

The very premise that has been put forth is that Kirk doesnt deserve to get paid like an elite because he doesnt compare to guys getting paid in that range. By making this statement, people are directly comparing him to some of the best to ever play the position because they are saying he doesnt deserve to be paid like those players.

Im still not sure what your point is.

Once again - you can compare him to whoever you want. You can compare Ryan Leaf to Peyton Manning if you want. Doesnt mean theyre similar. Saying Cousins is similar to one of the best QBs of all time is aggressive.

 

[ehb5]

I don't see where shark compared him to an elite QB. Instead he inferred that those who don't like him often remind us he is not Rodgers, Brady etc.

I dont see where he did that either. Thats why I didnt say he did

 

[Sharkinva]

I don't see where shark compared him to an elite QB. Instead he inferred that those who don't like him often remind us he is not Rodgers, Brady etc.

And we have a winner ladies and gentleman.

 

[skinsdad62]

I've looked as those 3 talent level and Kirks and know he isn't as talented as them.

ok so who do we replace him with ?

 

[Tubbs1518]

ok so who do we replace him with ?

If you can get the number 2 pick in the draft you take it and take Watson or Kizer. Mahomes is the most talented QB in this draft, but needs coaching. If SF offered the number 2 pick for Dalton I'd take it as well.

 

[skinsdad62]

If you can get the number 2 pick in the draft you take it and take Watson or Kizer. Mahomes is the most talented QB in this draft, but needs coaching. If SF offered the number 2 pick for Dalton I'd take it as well.

i wouldnt spend a # 2 pick overall on any qb coming out in this draft and you would be nuts too . that is based on my film study

 

[Tubbs1518]

i wouldnt spend a # 2 pick overall on any qb coming out in this draft and you would be nuts too . that is based on my film study

I'd spend it on 2 separate ones and like I said I love Mahomes as well.

 

[Sharkinva]

I'd spend it on 2 separate ones and like I said I love Mahomes as well.

So you would deal a QB you know can produce in your current system in order to draft a QB you hope can produce in your system and risk some one else drafting that QB unless you over draft him?? All to save the owner a few million because the guy you have isnt as exciting as the guy you wish he was??

You sure you arent a Redskins fan??

 

[Tubbs1518]

So you would deal a QB you know can produce in your current system in order to draft a QB you hope can produce in your system and risk some one else drafting that QB unless you over draft him?? All to save the owner a few million because the guy you have isnt as exciting as the guy you wish he was??

You sure you arent a Redskins fan??

It isn't about money. It's about Dalton has proven he can't take us to the SB. If I'm not gonna win it all, I'm gonna find a QB that can win it. That simple.

 

[Sharkinva]

It isn't about money. It's about Dalton has proven he can't take us to the SB. If I'm not gonna win it all, I'm gonna find a QB that can win it. That simple.

Dalton has been good enough to keep the Bengals in playoffs contention every year he has started. You would risk that on a guy who MIGHT be the next RG3, Akili Smith, etc??

 

[Tubbs1518]

Dalton has been good enough to keep the Bengals in playoffs contention every year he has started. You would risk that on a guy who MIGHT be the next RG3, Akili Smith, etc??

Absolutely. What good is being one and done every year? It's not. I'd risk that to get the next Mariota or Dak. If I get the next Akili, then I try again.