Aaron Rodgers is a God!

[Great Dayne]

Who cares who you've seen? I haven't seen you either and don't give a shit.

That's because you weren't on here before last week. lol

Derski's been on here for a while.

 

[Earl Stevens]

DRTL


All you've done is try to discredit greatness. Accept it. Appreciate it. Quit being a bitch.

I don't discredit greatness. I discredit hyperbole. Packer fans make it seem like they didn't have Favre or anything who won three straight MVPs, something I think that is more remarkable than anything Rodgers has ever done.

 

[Earl Stevens]

That's because you weren't on here before last week. lol

Derski's been on here for a while.

I repeat, I don't give a shit what you two have seen. Sorry, I don't bring attention to myself by making awful threads saying dumb shit like Rodgers is done.

 

[The Derski]

I don't discredit greatness. I discredit hyperbole. Packer fans make it seem like they didn't have Favre or anything who won three straight MVPs, something I think that is more remarkable than anything Rodgers has ever done.

I love me some Brett Favre.

If you've ever watched an ounce of football you'd realize Rodgers is clearly on a different level.

 

[The Derski]

I repeat, I don't give a shit what you two have seen. Sorry, I don't bring attention to myself by making awful threads saying dumb shit like Rodgers is done.

But everything you say is dumb shit? That's the reason I noticed you for the first time a week ago.

 

[Earl Stevens]

I love me some Brett Favre.

If you've ever watched an ounce of football you'd realize Rodgers is clearly on a different level.

I've watched plenty of football. Rodgers is clearly in a different era. A terrible era where many QBs put up great stats. Brett Favre at age 40 had a 33-7 TD season in this era. Brady at 39 28-2 in 12 games. LOL this era is a joke. But winning is something that matters in any era. Rodgers is just another Peyton Manning up to this point. But really, not even Peyton. Peyton had 11 12+ win seasons. Rodgers 2.

 

[Great Dayne]

DRTL


All you've done is try to discredit greatness. Accept it. Appreciate it. Quit being a bitch.

Precisely, no matter how good Rodgers is or what he does in a game he will devalue the game or what he's done any way he can. He's just like Skip Baseless.

This playoff game vs the best defense in the NFL which beat his Cowboys not once but Twice Rodgers just put up 360 and 4 TD's passing on them and 95% of it came in just 3 Q's of work in an outdoor cold environment.

IDK if there's ever been a better performance in the postseason vs a top 5 defense in below freezing conditions before by a QB.

 

[Earl Stevens]

But everything you say is dumb shit? That's the reason I noticed you for the first time a week ago.

No, it's pretty simple. You're a Packer fan. You see something negative about Rodgers, you assume it's stupid without taking into consideration what's being said.

 

[Great Dayne]

I've watched plenty of football. Rodgers is clearly in a different era. A terrible era where many QBs put up great stats. Brett Favre at age 40 had a 33-7 TD season in this era. Brady at 39 28-2 in 12 games. LOL this era is a joke. But winning is something that matters in any era. Rodgers is just another Peyton Manning up to this point. But really, not even Peyton. Peyton had 11 12+ win seasons. Rodgers 2.

Again, no matter what Rodgers does you will discredit his accomplishments. He could win the next two MVP's and SB's and you will find some excuse like Skippy Baseless.

 

[The Derski]

No, it's pretty simple. You're a Packer fan. You see something negative about Rodgers, you assume it's stupid without taking into consideration what's being said.

You need to be admitted to a mental institution. Clearly miserable and envious.

 

[The Derski]

Keeping with the ice cube theme...

 

[Great Dayne]

I repeat, I don't give a shit what you two have seen. Sorry, I don't bring attention to myself by making awful threads saying dumb shit like Rodgers is done.

You do know that was for SonnyCID. Rodgers is only 32 at that time. You're dumb to believe that any Packer fan would actually believe that. You bring attention to yourself by discrediting or devaluing anything good Rodgers does with excuses or opinions. I get it you hate Rodgers and hate he's getting credit for dominating. Even if Rodgers wins MVP and SB MVP you will still deny his greatness and make excuses.

 

[Earl Stevens]

Precisely, no matter how good Rodgers is or what he does in a game he will devalue the game or what he's done any way he can. He's just like Skip Baseless.

This playoff game vs the best defense in the NFL which beat his Cowboys not once but Twice Rodgers just put up 360 and 4 TD's passing on them and 95% of it came in just 3 Q's of work in an outdoor cold environment.

IDK if there's ever been a better performance in the postseason vs a top 5 defense in below freezing conditions before by a QB.

Saying that the Packers Oline was the MVP isn't devaluing Rodgers. It's the truth. Was Rodgers the best player? Obviously. But MVP? Easily the Oline. I know how good the Giants defense is. We played them twice. That defense can't do anything if Rodgers has a lot of time to pick them apart. Rodgers played phenomenal and so did his Oline.

 

[Great Dayne]

Saying that the Packers Oline was the MVP isn't devaluing Rodgers. It's the truth. Was Rodgers the best player? Obviously. But MVP? Easily the Oline. I know how good the Giants defense is. We played them twice. That defense can't do anything if Rodgers has a lot of time to pick them apart. Rodgers played phenomenal and so did his Oline.

He made extra time with his feet, he made free players off the blitz miss multiple times, and he made throws in tight windows on the run which few QB's can make, especially in the freezing cold. This isn't like Dak handing off the rock or Brady throwing a 4 yard pass that ends up in a 70 yard TD. This was Rodgers creating something out of nothing and throwing players open with 20+ yard passes in the air. To actually believe the O-line was the MVP is asinine. Rodgers was doping fucking dimes. Again, no matter what Rodger does individually or team wise with wins you will never acknowledge his greatness.

 

[Earl Stevens]

You do know that was for SonnyCID. Rodgers is only 32 at that time. You're dumb to believe that any Packer fan would actually believe that. You bring attention to yourself by discrediting or devaluing anything good Rodgers does with excuses or opinions. I get it you hate Rodgers and hate he's getting credit for dominating. Even if Rodgers wins MVP and SB MVP you will still deny his greatness and make excuses.

And that's the most important thing right there, winning. I value winning, not statistics. Rodgers gets blown to a ridiculous degree for someone who is a marginally better winner than Joe Flacco. Rodgers has the best stats of all time. Yeah, I said it, but the QB position is about winning. Again let me reiterate my point above:

Rodgers is a great QB, but highly overrated. People put him on this pedestal like he's Brady, Peyton, Montana. The QB position is about winning. You look at Rodgers, he has one ring, which is really great, but he also only has two 12 win seasons. His division has been weak, yet he's only won it 5 times in 9 seasons. Compare that to other all time greats:

Hell let's compare him to Favre first. Favre had 6 seasons winning 12 or more games, a ring, 8 divisional titles, and numerous playoff wins. Rodgers hasn't even surpassed Favre yet he's already put above Favre by many Packer fans.

Peyton had 11 12 win seasons, 11 divisional titles, a lot of playoff wins, two SBs.

Montana has 3 seasons of winning 12 or more games and would have more if not for injuries. We already know about Montana's 4 rings and he won 9 divisional titles.

Brady has 10 seasons winning 12 or more games, 4 rings, and won 14 divisional titles, etc.

Rodgers is great, but people act like he's doing things that have never been seen before. I've seen remarkable QB play all my life. Rodgers is part of a long list of great QBs to have ever played the game, but you would think he's the greatest of all time by the way he's hyped. I know Rodgers still has time left to do great things and I expect him to do more great things, but if he doesn't, he's gonna end up just another Favre, minus the picks of course.

 

[Great Dayne]

And that's the most important thing right there, winning. I value winning, not statistics. Rodgers gets blown to a ridiculous degree for someone who is a marginally better winner than Joe Flacco. Rodgers has the best stats of all time. Yeah, I said it, but the QB position is about winning. Again let me reiterate my point above:

Rodgers is a great QB, but highly overrated. People put him on this pedestal like he's Brady, Peyton, Montana. The QB position is about winning. You look at Rodgers, he has one ring, which is really great, but he also only has two 12 win seasons. His division has been weak, yet he's only won it 5 times in 9 seasons. Compare that to other all time greats:

Hell let's compare him to Favre first. Favre had 6 seasons winning 12 or more games, a ring, 8 divisional titles, and numerous playoff wins. Rodgers hasn't even surpassed Favre yet he's already put above Favre by many Packer fans.

Peyton had 11 12 win seasons, 11 divisional titles, a lot of playoff wins, two SBs.

Montana has 3 seasons of winning 12 or more games and would have more if not for injuries. We already know about Montana's 4 rings and he won 9 divisional titles.

Brady has 10 seasons winning 12 or more games, 4 rings, and won 14 divisional titles, etc.

Rodgers is great, but people act like he's doing things that have never been seen before. I've seen remarkable QB play all my life. Rodgers is part of a long list of great QBs to have ever played the game, but you would think he's the greatest of all time by.

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I understand what you're saying but that's an apples to Oranges comparison in taking team achievements to evaluate individual talent. Now with those numbers you provided I would say yes those players are more accomplished than Rodgers sure. But they've had numerous more games and seasons than him.

Now going off individual greatness many say (including Favre himself) that Marino is better than Favre despite having inferior team accomplishments. Marino never had a great team around him but was still doing amazing stuff. He had 5k his second year in 83. That would be like someone putting up 6k in today's game.

It's the eye test when you see the stuff Rodgers does on the field from pre snap, footwork, throws in pocket, throws on the run, in cold, in a dome, running the ball, arm strength, football IQ etc. I believe it's fair to say he's the greatest all around QB ever. That doesn't mean he's the most accomplished it just means he plays the position better than anyone in today's game all the way back to the late 80's which is as far back as I've seen players. I've seen Marino, Montana, Favre, Young, Elway, Aikmen, Brees, Brady, Manning, and none of them have the all around game that Rodgers has.

 

[LambeauLegs]

Twitter reaction to Rodgers' first-half Hail Mary

 

[Great Dayne]

And that's the most important thing right there, winning. I value winning, not statistics. Rodgers gets blown to a ridiculous degree for someone who is a marginally better winner than Joe Flacco. Rodgers has the best stats of all time. Yeah, I said it, but the QB position is about winning. Again let me reiterate my point above:

Rodgers is a great QB, but highly overrated. People put him on this pedestal like he's Brady, Peyton, Montana. The QB position is about winning. You look at Rodgers, he has one ring, which is really great, but he also only has two 12 win seasons. His division has been weak, yet he's only won it 5 times in 9 seasons. Compare that to other all time greats:

Hell let's compare him to Favre first. Favre had 6 seasons winning 12 or more games, a ring, 8 divisional titles, and numerous playoff wins. Rodgers hasn't even surpassed Favre yet he's already put above Favre by many Packer fans.

Peyton had 11 12 win seasons, 11 divisional titles, a lot of playoff wins, two SBs.

Montana has 3 seasons of winning 12 or more games and would have more if not for injuries. We already know about Montana's 4 rings and he won 9 divisional titles.

Brady has 10 seasons winning 12 or more games, 4 rings, and won 14 divisional titles, etc.

Rodgers is great, but people act like he's doing things that have never been seen before. I've seen remarkable QB play all my life. Rodgers is part of a long list of great QBs to have ever played the game, but you would think he's the greatest of all time by the way he's hyped. I know Rodgers still has time left to do great things and I expect him to do more great things, but if he doesn't, he's gonna end up just another Favre, minus the picks of course.

I understand what you're saying but that's an apples to Oranges comparison in taking team achievements to evaluate individual talent. Now with those numbers you provided I would say yes those players are more accomplished than Rodgers sure. But they've had numerous more games and seasons than him.

Now going off individual greatness many say (including Favre himself) that Marino is better than Favre despite having inferior team accomplishments. Marino never had a great team around him but was still doing amazing stuff. He had 5k his second year in 83. That would be like someone putting up 6k in today's game.

It's the eye test when you see the stuff Rodgers does on the field from pre snap, footwork, throws in pocket, throws on the run, in cold, in a dome, running the ball, arm strength, football IQ etc. I believe it's fair to say he's the greatest all around QB ever. That doesn't mean he's the most accomplished it just means he plays the position better than anyone in today's game all the way back to the late 80's which is as far back as I've seen players. I've seen Marino, Montana, Favre, Young, Elway, Aikmen, Brees, Brady, Manning, and none of them have the all around game that Rodgers has.

 

[Great Dayne]

And that's the most important thing right there, winning. I value winning, not statistics. Rodgers gets blown to a ridiculous degree for someone who is a marginally better winner than Joe Flacco. Rodgers has the best stats of all time. Yeah, I said it, but the QB position is about winning. Again let me reiterate my point above:

Rodgers is a great QB, but highly overrated. People put him on this pedestal like he's Brady, Peyton, Montana. The QB position is about winning. You look at Rodgers, he has one ring, which is really great, but he also only has two 12 win seasons. His division has been weak, yet he's only won it 5 times in 9 seasons. Compare that to other all time greats:

Hell let's compare him to Favre first. Favre had 6 seasons winning 12 or more games, a ring, 8 divisional titles, and numerous playoff wins. Rodgers hasn't even surpassed Favre yet he's already put above Favre by many Packer fans.

Peyton had 11 12 win seasons, 11 divisional titles, a lot of playoff wins, two SBs.

Montana has 3 seasons of winning 12 or more games and would have more if not for injuries. We already know about Montana's 4 rings and he won 9 divisional titles.

Brady has 10 seasons winning 12 or more games, 4 rings, and won 14 divisional titles, etc.

Rodgers is great, but people act like he's doing things that have never been seen before. I've seen remarkable QB play all my life. Rodgers is part of a long list of great QBs to have ever played the game, but you would think he's the greatest of all time by the way he's hyped. I know Rodgers still has time left to do great things and I expect him to do more great things, but if he doesn't, he's gonna end up just another Favre, minus the picks of course.

With your formula of winning and division titles, playoff wins and super bowls that would make Bart Starr the GOAT.

 

[GNG]

Some people believe Brady is the best QB, and I'm one of them. Calling sonny a homer just shows your stupidity and doesn't discredit his opinion.

Well he is a homer and if you don't like my post then you can go pound sand.