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It's like that D Jax?

Sharkinva

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And I would say, look at how our production declines when he isnt on the field. Having a guy that can run really fast means nothing if he cant catch and defenses dont respect his presence. Why do you think Ross is no longer here.
 

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Those reasons are fairly obvious if you are a skins fan Sportster. I figured you and many others senior posters/fans have noticed those reasons the past 3 seasons DJax has been in DC. I know for me a reason would be: DJax chooses to miss OTA's and other team activities because he is super busy with other personal commitments. To me, that is REASON enough to know he is not a "team first" type of player. If you ask any coach or front office personnel what they want in a player whether it be draftee or FA, it will be a team first kind of person/player. There are other reasons but I didn't think I would have to go into great detail for such Sr. posters like yourself. I guess I was wrong.

HTTR!

While I would like for DJax and every player to be in OTAs I do not believe that means he is a team player. Nothing he does on the field suggests he is not a team player and if you listen to younger players they clearly have said on more than one occasion how much he has helped him.

Being a "senior" poster (I mean that in age) I am old school and don't like to see guys miss optional events. It is hard for me to understand many players today but at the same time that doesn't mean they don't care or are all me players.

I accept your opinion that he is not a team first guy but I do not consider it a reason. You can't know that and either can I. That can be considered a matter of semantics though. :noidea:
 

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DJ can't get more touches. If he did, he would be on IR.

He is getting the same amount of touches here he got in PHI.
 

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DJ can't get more touches. If he did, he would be on IR.

He is getting the same amount of touches here he got in PHI.
I can agree however as Springs mentioned during his Shop Talk interview, DJax isn't feeling DC because of his lack of involvement in the offense. There were stretches in the middle of the season he was not really a focal point of the offense.
 

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Djax gets doubled a LOT, its why Reed and Crowder get 1 on 1 coverage, if you've noticed teams started taking away crowder, and guess who suddenly isn't doubled as much. At this point in his career i'd give him the deal he wants, he opens up everything for the 10 games he'll be there. Also if Djax and Cousins ever get that deep ball working, we could get away with using Robert Kelly another year.
 

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I can agree however as Springs mentioned during his Shop Talk interview, DJax isn't feeling DC because of his lack of involvement in the offense. There were stretches in the middle of the season he was not really a focal point of the offense.

He was never a focal point of any offense. The most receptions he has had in a season is 62. He isn't Antonio Brown.
 

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free agents starts a team with 75 million to spend calls djax .. djax this is teamA we want u for 14 mill a year.. guys he is gone he be 31 let him cash in he only has 1-3 years left good luck to djax you will be missed focus on keeping garcon maybe draft a wr or 2 or find a diamond in the offseason
 

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if djax was aj green, type then yes you go all to me he is more like a ow (offenseive weapon use only when u want to type player) he be 31 take that 10 million plus would pay for him and get 2 lineman each for 5 mill or try to get fs or ss berry
 

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You also believed that Jackson was rollin hard with LA gang members and that's why Chip Kelly released him which was bullshit. And that he'd be run outta DC in 3 years tops for being a knucklehead. And while he certianly has had some knucklehedads moments during his Skins tenure. I wouldn't be surprised if he reads message boards and online newspaper polls and that. All those ass0 fans in Philly who were talkin that Chip Kelly is a football god nonsense and fuck me-sean after he left Philly. Have been crying like sand filled vagina bitches the last couple years. While ass0 fans in DC have been talkin shit calling him a one trick pony and me-sean the last couple years and he's eatin all that shit up.

I'd be surprised though if he didn't try and make a move or at least put out some feelers about going back to LA as a Ram. Especially as the Rams finally got rid of Jeff Fisher's player kliller and team killer ass.

While I have been on record here as saying I'm surprised that DJax has not been a problem by now I never said that I was convinced that the LA gang rumors was the reason Chip cut him. No I'm pretty sure it was because he had a long list of knucklehead behavior which turned a 1st round talent into the 17th pick of the second round. Reid had issues with him early, Chip did later. Maybe he grew up?
 

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While I have been on record here as saying I'm surprised that DJax has not been a problem by now I never said that I was convinced that the LA gang rumors was the reason Chip cut him. No I'm pretty sure it was because he had a long list of knucklehead behavior which turned a 1st round talent into the 17th pick of the second round. Reid had issues with him early, Chip did later. Maybe he grew up?

Fair enough.
 

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He was never a focal point of any offense. The most receptions he has had in a season is 62. He isn't Antonio Brown.

82 in 2013, his last year in Philly. He also had career highs in yardage, 1300+ yards and TDs, 9. and it was only the 2nd time in his career he played in all 16 games.

That said. While he's never came close to those numbers in DC. His presence in the offense made/makes a noticable difference.
 

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if djax was aj green, type then yes you go all to me he is more like a ow (offenseive weapon use only when u want to type player) he be 31 take that 10 million plus would pay for him and get 2 lineman each for 5 mill or try to get fs or ss berry

31 and still fast as hell, with damn good hands and a great ability to track adjust to passes in the air.

And the first time Berry gets beat on a pass play. You'll be posting how he's garbage and needs to get cut. Then you'll name 22 safeties in college who would be just as good as Berry and that the Skins should draft..
 

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losening djax wont hurt hell here is some wisdom we can not force djax to stay and look crowder will be the djax wr keep garcon pray that doctson gets healthy pick up a free agent wr for camp bring in wrs to camp plus hell maybe draft a wr or 2 get better in the run game we will be fine all this is cheaper then paying djax he will want 10 mill plus he is just a OW losen djax wont hurt the way it would hurt if aj green left bengals or that wr left the falcons etc etc . draft oj howard thenyou have in the redzone howard reed crowder garcon thats nastey point is djax gone wont hurt plus garcon is better locker room guy
 

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here is some wisdom we can not force djax to stay and

That's not wisdom, its common sense, against the law and might get you hit with a kidnapping charge.

losen djax wont hurt the way it would hurt if aj green left bengals or that wr left the falcons etc etc .

And if it would hurt the Packers more if they lost Aaron Rodgers, but WTF does that have to do with anything?
Packer, Bengal and Falcons players don't have anything to do withthis topic.

djax gone wont hurt

You can say it 1000 more times, in a 1000 different ways of coach-speak, but that won't make it true. As neither you, I, or anyone else on the board can truly know that.
 

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breed im saying if we lose djax we will be ok plus we can use that money for defense or what ever djax was not and is not are offense he was not even a everydown wr he was a weapon thats it nothing more we will be fine with him or with out him and i know skins will be ok without him because others teams are ok without him
 

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lets just cerrato djax we dont do this anymore time to move on get some dam defense help and id we do a cerrato lets do it on defense at least that makes sense at least we tried but cerrato djax is stupid he will want 10 mill plus book it
 

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82 in 2013, his last year in Philly. He also had career highs in yardage, 1300+ yards and TDs, 9. and it was only the 2nd time in his career he played in all 16 games.

That said. While he's never came close to those numbers in DC. His presence in the offense made/makes a noticable difference.

I stand corrected. That one year was an outlier though and he has never been close to that guy at any other point. Wasn't that with Chip and his up tempo offense? Might explain it.
 

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lets just cerrato djax we dont do this anymore time to move on get some dam defense help and id we do a cerrato lets do it on defense at least that makes sense at least we tried but cerrato djax is stupid he will want 10 mill plus book it


IF you have the money to keep a guy, you dont ditch him or simply let him walk unless you have his replacement in house already.

Crowder is not his replacement because then you have to replace Crowder in the slot where he is deadly. Making a very good slot WR into an average to slightly above OK outside WR and having no one to take his place is foolish. We have no idea what we will get from Doctson because he has been injured all year. And the only place we find a replacement for Jackson in the draft is early. Speed means nothing if the guy isnt a constant threat to actually be able to USE that speed effectively. If thats all it took, Andrea Roberts would still be a Redskin and not a Lion.

Now if he wants to go, you look for his replacement. But he works in our offense, so an offer to keep him should at least be made.
 

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you ditch a player when paying him what he wants will hurt us in the future or his production does not equal the money you dont pay him just to have him thats a cerrato we already cerratoing kirk now we must cerrato djax??????? ....DJAX IS A FREE AGENT REPEAT DJAX IS A FREE AGENT THE HIGHEST BIDDER WILL GET DJAX AND IS THAT A CERRATO MOVE ...
 
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