44 million , do you ?

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Link...
Kirk Cousins

 

[Sportster 72]

Now it is half the signing bonus Luck just got ... chump change.

 

[Sharkinva]

So we got 16 days to get something worked out. NO pressure.

 

[skinsdad62]

In 16 days the worry could be over

 

[Sharkinva]

In 16 days the worry will be over one way or another. My thinking is, Cousins either plays well enough to get the tag again, in which case we lose him.

Or he plays just shy of tag worthiness... in which case.. we lose him.

I think we either sign him long term now, or we are looking for a QB next year.

 

[skinsdad62]

In 16 days the worry will be over one way or another. My thinking is, Cousins either plays well enough to get the tag again, in which case we lose him.

Or he plays just shy of tag worthiness... in which case.. we lose him.

I think we either sign him long term now, or we are looking for a QB next year.

I think we will be fine and he will be our guy

 

[Sportster 72]

I just now took a closer look. This contract about makes SM look smart. Luck is guaranteed $47 million ($87 is an injury guranatee). His yearly average is a little under $24 million. I think if I was Cousin's agent I would have hoped Luck had signed a bigger contract .... stay tuned.

 

[Ruzious]

If you're not going to bet on your QB after last season, you have a serious management problem, imo. We've seen what the Sam Bradfords are getting - and he might not even start. Prices are just going to keep going up, and if you wait another year, you're increasing the starting point, and you're adding to guaranteed money. If you bet against your QB, the likelihood grows that either pay a ton more than you had to, and you risk having to start over with a new QB that might take years to adjust or might simply flop.

It just doesn't make sense to bet against your QB unless you really don't believe in him.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

If you're not going to bet on your QB after last season, you have a serious management problem, imo. We've seen what the Sam Bradfords are getting - and he might not even start. Prices are just going to keep going up, and if you wait another year, you're increasing the starting point, and you're adding to guaranteed money. If you bet against your QB, the likelihood grows that either pay a ton more than you had to, and you risk having to start over with a new QB that might take years to adjust or might simply flop.

It just doesn't make sense to bet against your QB unless you really don't believe in him.

How about it is as simple as you just don't really know with Cousins? Heck even Cousins is not really sure how he will do in the next 3-4 years. This is a totally different situation than Luck since they had 4 complete years to evaluate him. With Cousins you really only have the last half of the 2015 season as an evaluation.

I am not stating that KC won't do well - just that there are some variables. I also truly believe that Cousins will remain here assuming that they give him a decent contract extension after next season. There are just too many reasons for him to not go elsewhere. I am sure that he & his family are very comfortable w/ the area, and he just has to be happy with the team & his situation (& he may be hard pressed to find a better offense looking for a QB in the rest of the NFL). Heck - they had faith in him when many others did not.

Cousins even stated that he has to prove himself so why would anyone assume that he would be bitter and/or want to bolt this team after next season (again assuming that they give him a decent offer - which they will)? A lot of worrying over something that really doesn't warrant it.

 

[Mitziman]

seems like a good deal to me. KC's been with the organization since 2012. sure, he’s only been with Jay for 2, and SM for 1…but, B. Allen and company have seen his work ethic the last 4 seasons, is that not enough? things that make you go hmmm.

maybe it’s because coach Jay is just the baddest qb coach in the nfl right now. Jay can turn to gold almost any qb with potential is why they are holding off, unless your qb is rg3.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

seems like a good deal to me. KC's been with the organization since 2012. sure, he’s only been with Jay for 2, and SM for 1…but, B. Allen and company have seen his work ethic the last 4 seasons, is that not enough? things that make you go hmmm.

maybe it’s because coach Jay is just the baddest qb coach in the nfl right now. Jay can turn to gold almost any qb with potential is why they are holding off, unless your qb is rg3.

Work ethic doesn't warrant $20M + per season. I am sure that McCoy also works hard but lacks the overall talent. If not extended in the next few weeks Cousins just needs to prove that last season was not a fluke - as Redskins fans we need to be honest & understand that is not a given (even though it may be likely).

I would think that they have not agreed yet since both sides are probably (rightfully) taking a firm stance. No worries - they will get this worked out either in the next few weeks or sometime over the next year (unless Cousins gets hurt or stinks up the place in which case it won't be warranted anyhow).

 

[Mitziman]

Work ethic doesn't warrant $20M + per season. I am sure that McCoy also works hard but lacks the overall talent. If not extended in the next few weeks Cousins just needs to prove that last season was not a fluke - as Redskins fans we need to be honest & understand that is not a given (even though it may be likely).

I would think that they have not agreed yet since both sides are probably (rightfully) taking a firm stance. No worries - they will get this worked out either in the next few weeks or sometime over the next year (unless Cousins gets hurt or stinks up the place in which case it won't be warranted anyhow).

i agree, but on the other hand mr. Luck has never had a season like KC did in 2015.

 

[ehb5]

i agree, but on the other hand mr. Luck has never had a season like KC did in 2015.

That might be debatable statistically and it's about a lot more than stats.

 

[Mitziman]

That might be debatable statistically and it's about a lot more than stats.

Of course it is. Andrew Luck was the #1 pick in the 2012 draft.

 

[ehb5]

Of course it is. Andrew Luck was the #1 pick in the 2012 draft.

He's also pretty surely a franchise qb while there is much less consensus about kirk. And that's not just because of the hype of being the #1 pick as much as it is onfield play.

 

[Sharkinva]

Of course it is. Andrew Luck was the #1 pick in the 2012 draft.

And if Cousins had been a top ten pick in 2012, after the season he just had. Most of the wait and see crowd would be lined up to shoot Dan Snyder, Scot Mc and Jay Gruden for even considering not signing him long term already.

 

[Mitziman]

And if Cousins had been a top ten pick in 2012, after the season he just had. Most of the wait and see crowd would be lined up to shoot Dan Snyder, Scot Mc and Jay Gruden for even considering not signing him long term already.

Thank you Shark, now let's drop the mic...and call it a night. cheers bro.

 

[ehb5]

Thank you Shark, now let's drop the mic...and call it a night. cheers bro.

Drop the mic on what??

Would you rather the redskins had kirk cousins or andrew luck?

 

[Sharkinva]

Drop the mic on what??

Would you rather the redskins had kirk cousins or andrew luck?

The Colts had to basically tank a season to get Luck. I would rather have Cousins and the four draft picks we gave up that year. As we would likely be in a much better position.