Detroit Tigers Ongoing 2016 Thread

[MiamiVice]

A silly rejoinder that has no bearing on the question raised. Large corporations disinvest and restructure all the time. My question was directed at that possibility, and given the unstable economic conditions in SW Michigan, I was wondering, out loud, if there would be local business people willing to step in to keep the team in Detroit. Especially if the on-field product withers.

As stated before, no desire to continue a discussion with you. I clarified my earlier statement....and I am sure you will follow with some snide, asshole remark. Be my guest to have the last word on this topic, as you must. (OCD?)

LOL at the guy obviously trolling here saying this. Michigan has about 10 billionaires in the state currently and numerous more with ties to the state. You make a stupid ass comment "wondering out loud" about the Tigers selling and if there are people willing to step in... then you cry when you are called out on it? Its a fucking stupid thing to even talk about. The entire Ilitch family is connected to positions in the Tigers organization other than his wife.. who can't be because of her ownership of a casino...

Just for your dumb ass I am going to explain to you why the Ilitch family will never sell the Tigers...

A) The team draws fans downtown to the area of their casino
B) The team is a huge marketing tool for their Little Caesars business... you might have heard of it
C) Mike Ilitch's son has been president of the team since the fucking 90's.

Why would a company that just spent hundreds of millions of dollars on a new stadium for the other sports franchise sell their other? The sports teams are a feeder system and marketing tool for their other businesses... If they break even on them its a win... If you don't think the fact that Little Caesars is plastered all over everything of the Tigers helped Little Caesars become the 3rd largest pizza chain in the world you are a moron.


That being said... I can almost 100% guarantee you that if the Tigers came up for sale that Dan Gilbert would buy them in a heart beat. Its almost a 100% guarantee he would at least be in the bidding along with Tom Gores.

Bringing up Michigan's economy like it matters to someone worth a billion dollars is pretty funny.

 

[Iffster]

Yep - OCD

 

[MiamiVice]

"None of our businesses or teams are for sale. Careful planning has been done over many years by Mike and Marian Ilitch to ensure the Detroit Tigers, the Detroit Red Wings and our entire family of businesses remain under ongoing and long-term Ilitch ownership," said son Chris Ilitch, CEO and president of Ilitch Holdings Inc.


Just an FYI iffy. You can thank me for that info later while you are wondering out loud about something else that is retarded.

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

I think if the Tigers are healthy you prediction is pretty accurate Vice, I think the Royals will be better than you are predicting though. They should atleast be .500 if not above that.

 

[Iffster]

"None of our businesses or teams are for sale. Careful planning has been done over many years by Mike and Marian Ilitch to ensure the Detroit Tigers, the Detroit Red Wings and our entire family of businesses remain under ongoing and long-term Ilitch ownership," said son Chris Ilitch, CEO and president of Ilitch Holdings Inc.


Just an FYI iffy. You can thank me for that info later while you are wondering out loud about something else that is retarded.

Thank you, Monk.

 

[MiamiVice]

I think if the Tigers are healthy you prediction is pretty accurate Vice, I think the Royals will be better than you are predicting though. They should atleast be .500 if not above that.

The reason I am predicting the Royals to struggle is because they just had 2 long playoff runs and guys like Sal Perez are beat up bad. I am willing to put a lot of money on the fact that Sal Perez sees the DL... and they don't have shit on their 40 man to replace him with. They also have huge holes at second base and RF. Their lineup is nothing like what they used to make their run. Plus nobody is scared of Soria. He is not a replacement for Holland in the least. Their bullpen depth took a huge hit. The thing that is going to get the Royals to fall is their lack of depth.. they literally have nothing they can call up at pretty much every position... and their lineup is already thin.

 

[Iffster]

I think if the Tigers are healthy you prediction is pretty accurate Vice, I think the Royals will be better than you are predicting though. They should atleast be .500 if not above that.

The AL is a parity league. Just my opinion, but I could see the entire AL Central ending up within a 10 game spread for 2016. The winning team might take it with 86 wins...and the 5th place team might have 76 wins. Each team has some major flaw or worry. I sort of agree with Monks prediction of the White Sox being near the top...their rotation is strong and they have added some hitters (if they sign Ian Desmond, they improve even more).

 

[MiamiVice]

Thank you, Monk.

Your welcome old man.

 

[MiamiVice]

The AL is a parity league. Just my opinion, but I could see the entire AL Central ending up within a 10 game spread for 2016. The winning team might take it with 86 wins...and the 5th place team might have 76 wins. Each team has some major flaw or worry. I sort of agree with Monks prediction of the White Sox being near the top...their rotation is strong and they have added some hitters (if they sign Ian Desmond, they improve even more).

I have a feeling the White Sox are going to be the team to beat for the Tigers. The Indians have the strongest rotation.. but their lineup is complete shit. Once you get past the 2-4 hitters they don't have a single guy that is worth a piss. Rajai Davis is their leadoff man at the ripe age of 35 and coming off a .258 ba and barely .300 obp. The Tigers are probably the best balanced team as far as least glaring holes. The Twins are probably going to be really shitty unless they get some kind of miracle seasons from their turd like rotation.

 

[Iffster]

The reason I am predicting the Royals to struggle is because they just had 2 long playoff runs and guys like Sal Perez are beat up bad. I am willing to put a lot of money on the fact that Sal Perez sees the DL... and they don't have shit on their 40 man to replace him with. They also have huge holes at second base and RF. Their lineup is nothing like what they used to make their run. Plus nobody is scared of Soria. He is not a replacement for Holland in the least. Their bullpen depth took a huge hit. The thing that is going to get the Royals to fall is their lack of depth.. they literally have nothing they can call up at pretty much every position... and their lineup is already thin.

blah, blah, blah. You know, Monk. I would have a little more respect for you if you would admit that your panning of the Royals (year after year) has to do with your on going soap opera with bums AND the other Royal fans you have run across here and on other boards. You would be finding fault with the Royals if the lineup was filled entirely with HOF players. There are 5 AL Central teams...you seem to be fascinated by only KC.......

 

[MiamiVice]

It goes to show how serious the Indians are about contending when they pin their hopes on a leadoff man that is better served as a 5th outfielder.

 

[MiamiVice]

blah, blah, blah. You know, Monk. I would have a little more respect for you if you would admit that your panning of the Royals (year after year) has to do with your on going soap opera with bums AND the other Royal fans you have run across here and on other boards. You would be finding fault with the Royals if the lineup was filled entirely with HOF players. There are 5 AL Central teams...you seem to be fascinated by only KC.......

I actually get along just fine with the other royals fans now iffy. when cbs chats went down they invited me to their private chats and I chatted with them on the regular. bums is a piece of garbage... you are smart enough to see that. I may push the envelope on what I say to him.. but he is a complete waste of oxygen. I am not going to pan an entire fanbase based on the fact some fucking loser in parkville missouri exists. I am saying it because I see major issues.

I was wrong in the past 2 years about them.. but to be honest... so were a lot of expects and projections. I am not the only one that sees a team that is seriously flawed... and its much more flawed this year.. with a higher payroll.. and less prospects to use to fill holes. Its not rocket science. Perez is one good foul tip away from turning into avila.

 

[MiamiVice]

The Royals pennant run would not have happened without Zobrist and Rios. Those guys are gone. Perez is one good fastball to the face away from being out for a long time. Soria was hittable in Detroit.. and will be hittable in KC... Their starting rotation is filled with complete shit. None of this is made up. None of it is fake. Its reality.

 

[Howie115]

Plus nobody is scared of Soria. He is not a replacement for Holland in the least. Their bullpen depth took a huge hit.

I think Wade Davis will close, and Soria will be setup. Just a feeling. Point taken though, it does hurt their depth because Davis was the best 8th inning guy in the league.

 

[MiamiVice]

I think Wade Davis will close, and Soria will be setup. Just a feeling. Point taken though, it does hurt their depth because Davis was the best 8th inning guy in the league.

Davis is for sure closing... I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he ends up being hit around a little this year... bullpen arms lifespans aren't too long and he is going on year 3.

 

[broncosmitty]

It goes to show how serious the Indians are about contending when they pin their hopes on a leadoff man that is better served as a 5th outfielder.

Kipnis and Lindor are both good leadoff options. Hell, Brantley could be a nice leadoff hitter.

Are you tallinbough Rajai Davis?

 

[broncosmitty]

Id put Lindor there personally. Switch hitter, nice speed, great OBP...

 

[MiamiVice]

Kipnis and Lindor are both good leadoff options. Hell, Brantley could be a nice leadoff hitter.

Are you tallinbough Rajai Davis?

Yes... Right now their projected lineup has Rajai Davis as their leadoff hitter and Lindor #2 with kipnis #3. Brantley is injured and might not even see the light of day until April. That being said... Rajai is going to play... and be in the lineup. The Indians lineup no matter how its stacked is going to have at least 4 turds in it.

 

[MiamiVice]

The Indian's first base right now is projected to be Napoli.. which would be cool if it was 2011.

 

[broncosmitty]

Yes... Right now their projected lineup has Rajai Davis as their leadoff hitter and Lindor #2 with kipnis #3. Brantley is injured and might not even see the light of day until April. That being said... Rajai is going to play... and be in the lineup. The Indians lineup no matter how its stacked is going to have at least 4 turds in it.

Hard for me to see Rajai leading off much more than he did here I guess. He's an option, but they should be able to do better most days.

Middle of the order guys, not so many options.