McLovin' Presser, Wed Jan 27th

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Interesting nugget

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Just listened to most of the interviews - good stuff. Is there any doubt that this is the best Redskins pickup at least during the Snyder era & perhaps much longer than that!

HTTR

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Validates what a lot of peeps thought...that scouting was likely not the issue, the right decision maker was...

Key of course is a clear vision of the type of player you're looking for. Scot provides that.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

On Manusky

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Scot McCloughan prefers a long-term deal with Kirk Cousins to franchise tag

 

[Sharkinva]

The one thing Scot is going to pull off that no one can figure out how is....

RG3 is going to be traded.

 

[skinsdad62]

5 Takeaways: Jan. 27 Scot McCloughan Presser 

here is his presser

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

why does it'take'caliskinfans shared tweets like 2 min to pop up

 

[j_y19]

The one thing Scot is going to pull off that no one can figure out how is....

RG3 is going to be traded.

If he can find a way to trade this guy and get anything more than a ham sandwich for him with that contract commitment for this coming year, I will truly be in awe.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

If he can find a way to trade this guy and get anything more than a ham sandwich for him with that contract commitment for this coming year, I will truly be in awe.

I really doubt he will be traded & really who cares? The main issue is moving on w/o RG3 in the Cousins era & continuing to remove the related drama & create a solid organization. The late round pick they might obtain for him means just about nothing for this team. I certainly hope people are not looking at this as some type of minimal payback for the failed trade. That is water under the bridge - move on.

 

[redskinsfan]

I'd love to know what McCloughan things of that 2012 trade for RGIII and what he would've done in that situation. Also, can you imagine where we'd be if we had him from the time Snyder first bought this team?

 

[Breed]

Nice to hear Scotty Mac speak on Griffin. If for no other reason than to quell the potential bullshit that Snyder is the one unwilling to depart with Griffin and that's why he's still on the squad talk starting back up.............again.

 

[Sharkinva]

I tend to think of the Griffin situation like a tool needed to complete a project. I went into the store, the guy told me this tool would help me complete this project in half the time, despite the three times the going price. Sure I got snookered, because the tool as it turns out, while it could be useful, didnt fit into what I needed to do. The other tool I bought at the same time for 1/5th the price, looks to get the job done.

IM still going to list the first tool on Craigs list, just to see if I can recoup something for it before I leave it on the side of the road with a sign saying haul it away and its yours.

Scot would be slacking if he wasnt at least exploring opportunities of getting SOMETHING in return for Griffin. Sure it will probably be a pointless venture. But take the emotion out of it for a moment and think long term. Even a conditional 7th rounder in 2017 would serve purpose better than simply cutting him loose at this point.

 

[redskinsfan]

I tend to think of the Griffin situation like a tool needed to complete a project. I went into the store, the guy told me this tool would help me complete this project in half the time, despite the three times the going price. Sure I got snookered, because the tool as it turns out, while it could be useful, didnt fit into what I needed to do. The other tool I bought at the same time for 1/5th the price, looks to get the job done.

IM still going to list the first tool on Craigs list, just to see if I can recoup something for it before I leave it on the side of the road with a sign saying haul it away and its yours.

Scot would be slacking if he wasnt at least exploring opportunities of getting SOMETHING in return for Griffin. Sure it will probably be a pointless venture. But take the emotion out of it for a moment and think long term. Even a conditional 7th rounder in 2017 would serve purpose better than simply cutting him loose at this point.

It will also serve another important purpose: controlling who he goes to. That shouldn't be underestimated either. The trade market should be pretty decent for him since there will be some teams that will be interested in him. But, in order for a trade to be pulled off, RGIII will need to renegotiate that option into a workable deal. I think that can be done after we get a trade partner. However, RGIII will also have some leverage here -- if he doesn't like where he's going, he won't agree to renegotiate his deal and that will kill any trade. All these machinations goes to show that, to trade him, there are multiple moving parts and a trade may come later rather than sooner. Because that might be the case, there may be a lot of speculation that RGIII might actually stay. And that will make for some interesting stuff.

 

[j_y19]

I can't for the life of me figure out why Griffin would consider reworking his deal to facilitate a trade. Everyone knows he will not be on the redskins team next year. It seems to me that he just waits until he is released so he can deal with whatever team he chooses, and possibly multiple teams.

 

[skinz2winz]

It will also serve another important purpose: controlling who he goes to. That shouldn't be underestimated either. The trade market should be pretty decent for him since there will be some teams that will be interested in him. But, in order for a trade to be pulled off, RGIII will need to renegotiate that option into a workable deal. I think that can be done after we get a trade partner. However, RGIII will also have some leverage here -- if he doesn't like where he's going, he won't agree to renegotiate his deal and that will kill any trade. All these machinations goes to show that, to trade him, there are multiple moving parts and a trade may come later rather than sooner. Because that might be the case, there may be a lot of speculation that RGIII might actually stay. And that will make for some interesting stuff.

Setting feelings aside for a minute...
As long as Griffin is on the roster, McScotty holds at least one card over Cousins. It seems they are trying to facilitate a long term deal with Cousins however, Cousins camp wants big money and McScotty camp doesn't want to pay big money nor should they. This past season the skins beat no one worthy of note and are not totally sold on Kirk's long term potential. Kirk showed some promise and continues to take steps forward in becoming a solid starter however, he requires more in-game action to iron out some inconsistencies and only OJT will help him advance to solid starter level. Should the team release Griffin now, which they can and won't, then Kirk will hold a card over the team with negotiating leverage as the team really has no QB at that point.

Griffin will never agree to any trade because his current contract would then have to be renegotiated to make the transaction happen. Why would he do that and why should he? He knows he has no home here with Gruden on staff so wait it out until the team releases you and a trade is out of the question. Then Griffin can and will choose his next team. No doubt, the Cowboys will come calling and he will be a Cowboy next year imo. Cousins camp will hold out for 'Big Time Money' he has not earned yet and this thing could get tricky. I see the Skins panicking and paying Cousins way over his current value because really, that is their only option at this point unless they draft another QB or sign a veteran to learn Gruden's system all over again, not likely.

In the end, the Skins will have to overpay Cousins to keep him and hope it works out best for everyone.

 

[redskinsfan]

I seriously doubt Scot is holding on to Griffin as leverage over Cousins. If he were, that would potentially poison the well for contract negotiations and create potential trust issues in the future. But I doubt that's the case. Everyone knows Griffin is gone and the question is how he'll be cut loose and when that'll happen.

As for Griffin, he knows he won't see a dime of that option. The best possible scenario for him would be to cut loose and then to see what he can fetch on the open market. But if Scot, Griffin and another team can agree to terms on a trade and a new deal, that's a possibility, though I'll admit it seems somewhat of a longshot. All Griffin has to do, if he doesn't like the place he's getting traded to, is simply refuse to renegotiate the option. If so, the Redskins are out of options and will be forced to cut him. But I'm not going to underestimate what Scotty can do.

 

[Sharkinva]

I can't for the life of me figure out why Griffin would consider reworking his deal to facilitate a trade. Everyone knows he will not be on the redskins team next year. It seems to me that he just waits until he is released so he can deal with whatever team he chooses, and possibly multiple teams.

Reality is, while Griffin seems to have all the leverage, he really has none. Until he is released, the team still owns his rights.

Couple of options.

1. Griffin agrees to rework his deal to facilitate a trade.

2. The team works out a trade without the rework, but agrees to eat half the cost of his salary. The team that gets him then has the option to rework him, or have him play and IF he turns out to be worth keeping work a new deal with him next year.

3. Keep him on his current deal and as the #3 QB for another year. Risky? Yes... Expensive? Hell Yes. Out of the question?? Only if you let emotion and not shrewd business sense rule the decision process.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Reality is, while Griffin seems to have all the leverage, he really has none. Until he is released, the team still owns his rights.

Couple of options.

1. Griffin agrees to rework his deal to facilitate a trade.

2. The team works out a trade without the rework, but agrees to eat half the cost of his salary. The team that gets him then has the option to rework him, or have him play and IF he turns out to be worth keeping work a new deal with him next year.

3. Keep him on his current deal and as the #3 QB for another year. Risky? Yes... Expensive? Hell Yes. Out of the question?? Only if you let emotion and not shrewd business sense rule the decision process.

Being objective - why in the hell would a team keep a player who likely won't play for $16M while creating unnecessary locker room drama? That makes no sense. It also hardly makes any sense for RG3 to rework a deal when he can simply wait for a few months to go wherever he likes. Heck - he waited all of last season - a few more months is not going to kill him. Option # 2 also doesn't really make sense.

I agree with you about exploring a possible trade for a late pick - why not? However - don't really see this happening & in the grand scheme of things I think the impact is relatively minimal. I think permanently removing the related drama is worth much more than a 6th or 7th round pick.