Interesting metrics on the 5 remaining undefeated teams

[LambeauLegs]

Thoughts from some so called experts as to who will stay undefeated the longest. The author must be a Cardinal homer with them ending 3 of the teams undefeated season.

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Which undefeated team will be the last to suffer defeat?

New England Patriots 5-0 - Predicted first loss: at Broncos, Nov. 29

Carolina Panthers 5-0 - Predicted first loss: at Cardinals, Nov. 22

Denver Broncos 6-0 - Predicted first loss: vs. Packers, Nov. 1

Cincinnati Bengals 6-0 - Predicted first loss: at Cardinals, Nov. 22

Green Bay Packers 6-0 - Predicted first loss: at Cardinals, Dec. 27

 

[Tainthappening]

Thoughts from some so called experts as to who will stay undefeated the longest. The author must be a Cardinal homer with them ending 3 of the teams undefeated season.

Click link for the full article

Which undefeated team will be the last to suffer defeat?

New England Patriots 5-0 - Predicted first loss: at Broncos, Nov. 29

Carolina Panthers 5-0 - Predicted first loss: at Cardinals, Nov. 22

Denver Broncos 6-0 - Predicted first loss: vs. Packers, Nov. 1

Cincinnati Bengals 6-0 - Predicted first loss: at Cardinals, Nov. 22

Green Bay Packers 6-0 - Predicted first loss: at Cardinals, Dec. 27

That would be something if the Cardinals can beat both the Bengals AND Panthers on the same day (October 22nd). Are they having a split squad game?

I checked the link... they have Panthers losing to the Packers on Nov. 8th.

 

[LambeauLegs]

That would be something if the Cardinals can beat both the Bengals AND Panthers on the same day (October 22nd). Are they having a split squad game?



Ha Ha ok yea I failed on my copy and pasting not wanting to copy the full article

 

[LambeauLegs]

Ha Ha ok yea I failed on my copy and pasting not wanting to copy the full article

 

[jarntt]

Wouldn't you be rooting for that anyway? I sure would.

Although the benefit of not seeing the Pats fans here talk about being undefeated would be welcomed, I'm mostly rooting for the Pats to win most of their games. I certainly want them to beat the rest of the NFC East teams and that's gotta be about a third of their games left right there...Although, I will root for the Jets this weekend and don't think I'll be rooting for them in the playoffs.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Thoughts on Manning:

His arm is all but shot. He has to really, really put a lot of effort into his hard throws. The inability to stretch the field will also hamper the run defense. When you can drop 8 or 9 guys into the box, and not worry about getting beat on a quick slant because of a soft throw, or getting beat deep because the ball floats out there, it makes it much, much tougher on the offense.

Manning is the smartest QB in the NFL when it comes to schemes and pre-snap reads, and the like. There's no equal. The fact that he'd struggle with a new offensive system is hard for me to fathom. I don't follow Denver a ton, so there could be more to this, but I don't see it.

What I see is a guy who's played a ton of NFL games, had a ton of injuries, and his neck/arm/shoulder are finally about shot. He's got 6-9 really hard/good rope throws in him a game, and I would bet that could diminish as the season wears on, and the weather gets colder.

For the record, I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see him put up a great season and then go out. No one wants to watch a guy who fell off a cliff and has no choice but to retire.

As for when teams will lose? I could totally see the Bengals losing in Pitt. Especially if Ben returns and is effective. They will make a run. I have no doubt.

 

[Clayton]

interesting stuff...


FIVE UNDEFEATEDS: There are five NFL teams that remain undefeated through Week 6: New England (5-0), Denver (6-0), Green Bay (6-0), Cincinnati (6-0), and Carolina (5-0). It is the most going into Week 7 since the merger in 1970.

I think its also important to point out that all of these teams have made the playoffs the past 2 years.

Success breeds more success.

 

[LambeauLegs]

No popping the champagne by Mercury Morris this year?


Get ready for a pair of 18-0 teams in the Super Bowl

Get ready for a pair of 18-0 teams in the Super Bowl

 

[Dude]

So do I have to root for a Pats loss to stop seeing all these threads???

You joking? Rocko is at his best when the Pats get humiliated.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

So Denver gets NE, GB and Cin in Denver.

I say GB and NE win there, and the Bungles lose.

 

[CruiseControl]

Strength of victory:

Patriots .448
Bengals .314
Packers .314
Panthers .310
Broncos .294

I would say besides the patriots who have at least beaten a winning team... these undefeated records are not entirely impressive considering the opponents faced.

 

[MileHigh64]

So Denver gets NE, GB and Cin in Denver.

I say GB and NE win there, and the Bungles lose.

I think the Broncos will beat NE and CIN in Denver but lose to the Pack. Denver will be very UP for the Patriots game as it's become much like a division rival game in the last few years. Broncos also have a trip to Indy in the middle of that. Will be a good test to see if Kubiak and company can concoct a better plan to get our anemic offense moving in the right direction. Anyway, we'll have a much better read on this Broncos team by the end of November.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

I think the Broncos will beat NE and CIN in Denver but lose to the Pack. Denver will be very UP for the Patriots game as it's become much like a division rival game in the last few years. Broncos also have a trip to Indy in the middle of that. Will be a good test to see if Kubiak and company can concoct a better plan to get our anemic offense moving in the right direction. Anyway, we'll have a much better read on this Broncos team by the end of November.

Bill B will cook up something special for the Broncos.

GB will be their first real test so I can see GB winning too.

After that it's nobody till NE at the end of the month. Their 2nd real test.

November will tell the tale for sure.

 

[MileHigh64]

Bill B will cook up something special for the Broncos.

GB will be their first real test so I can see GB winning too.

After that it's nobody till NE at the end of the month. Their 2nd real test.

November will tell the tale for sure.

You could be right. I've got nothing to offer except hunches based on 4 decades of following the Broncos. I do think the Indy game on the road will test this team for sure, as there is always the Manning connection. We'll see.

 

[cdumler7]

Bill B will cook up something special for the Broncos.

GB will be their first real test so I can see GB winning too.

After that it's nobody till NE at the end of the month. Their 2nd real test.

November will tell the tale for sure.

Something people do forget is that the one stadium that Brady has really struggled to play in is Denver. The altitude has not been his friend. He has only won twice in Denver during his career. Once in 2003 and the 2011 game against Tebow. He also has never won in Denver during the playoffs. So that brings his record in Denver to a total of 2-5 in Denver.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Something people do forget is that the one stadium that Brady has really struggled to play in is Denver. The altitude has not been his friend. He has only won twice in Denver during his career. Once in 2003 and the 2011 game against Tebow. He also has never won in Denver during the playoffs. So that brings his record in Denver to a total of 2-5 in Denver.

No argument.

This is his Revenge World Tour though.

 

[LambeauRambo]

Strength of victory:

Patriots .448
Bengals .314
Packers .314
Panthers .310
Broncos .294

I would say besides the patriots who have at least beaten a winning team... these undefeated records are not entirely impressive considering the opponents faced.

Those numbers are just a little off. Opponents winning percentages are:
Pats 0.4468
Bengals 0.3166
Packers 0.3165
Panthers 0.3132
Broncos 0.3056

It's way to early in a season to really take those stats to heart. The one team with a winning record that the Pat's beat was Pittsburgh. While they (Pitt) have beat some good teams they also lost to Baltimore and it's just to hard to say where they are especially without the Burger.

Denver beat Minn. and they are a winning team at 0.600, but who have they (Minn) beat? S.D. is the only team they've played that is decent and they lost to S.F. And Denver has played 3 teams that are at 0.167

The best records that GB and Caro have beat is 0.400 but for GB 3 other games the teams are at 0.333 for Carol they had 3 also at 0.333.

Cinci one at 0.500, one at 0.400, two at 0.333 and two at 0.167.

I'd like to look back at this in 4-6 weeks and see how it shakes out. It's just like before the season when they publish the "strength of schedule". It means little to nothing in how the actual season sorts out.

Now, I do know one thing about who you play and their winning records and it works 99% of the time to pick the Super Bowl winner once the teams are in place. And that goes by winning records of opponents, only one time has it failed to pick the winner and that was when Baltimore won it the year the AFL and NFL merged and Baltimore was coming from the NFL to the AFC to round out the conferences.

 

[Clayton]

Now, I do know one thing about who you play and their winning records and it works 99% of the time to pick the Super Bowl winner once the teams are in place. And that goes by winning records of opponents, only one time has it failed to pick the winner and that was when Baltimore won it the year the AFL and NFL merged and Baltimore was coming from the NFL to the AFC to round out the conferences.

Factoring in SOS with playoff teams Im getting

2014 Seattle (almost but no)
2013 New Orleans (no)
2012 Baltimore (yes)
2011 Giants (yes)
2010 Jets (no)
2009 Patriots (no)
2008 Ravens (no)
2007 Giants (yes)
2006 Colts (yes)
2005 Steelers (yes)

So it appears to be 50/50. Its also a flawed stat how Im getting it because it measures SOS after the playoffs not before the playoffs so 1 or 2 of those 'yes' results might be 'no' and vice versa.

Unless you have a 99% formula in which case why aren't you stinking rich?

 

[jarntt]

You joking? Rocko is at his best when the Pats get humiliated.

Oh crap. So this is the BETTER OPTION!!!

 

[Rock Strongo]

i keeps it real