falcons post game

[Caliskinsfan]

But if that happens doesn't it make more sense to attribute it to the defense being worn down. I just don't get what "rhythm" would even be.

Rhythm is getting on a roll with successful 3-5 yard runs consistently.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Grrrrrrr

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Understatement of the year

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Redskins snap counts vs. Falcons: Alfred Morris rarely used down the stretch — www.washingtonpost.com — Readability

Excerpt

Running backs
Chris Thompson – 26 snaps (43 percent)
Matt Jones – 20 snaps (33 percent)
Alfred Morris – 14 snaps (23 percent)
Darrel Young – four snaps (seven percent)

Two weeks after Redskins Coach Jay Gruden said he wanted Morris to be the lead dog, he hardly played down the stretch out of 20 offensive plays in the fourth quarter and overtime. Morris didn’t play in the fourth and received three snaps in overtime. It’s the second-fewest snaps Morris has received this season; He’d had 12 against the Giants. He finished with eight carries for 15 yards.

The entire run game struggled in its worst performance this season. Washington gained just 51 yards on 24 carries, averaging 2.1 yards per attempt. Jones led the unit with 11 rushes for 20 yards.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

But we WERE outplayed all game, the numbers show that clearly. As I said Ryan having an off day and for the second week in a row the other kicker kept us in a game we had all of 7 pts on the scoreboard into the third quarter.

Here are the stats that favored Atlanta, pretty much every meaningful stat there is:

1st downs: 29-18
Rushing Yards: 176 (5.5 YPC) vs 51 (2.1 YPC)
Passing Yards: 242-219
Total Yards: 418-217
TOP: 34:56 to 27:49
Total Plays: 77-57
3rd down efficiency: 6-15 vs 4-12
Yards per play: 5.4 vs 4.7

You're mostly right...In between the 20s, the Falcons did own the game largely because they were able to run the ball, but they bogged down several times in WAS territory and Bryant missed the FG or the score would have looked a lot different.

But it's not like ATL dominated anything...Have to credit the WAS D though for the turnovers (should have been a 4th) and the 3rd down stops to force those FGs.

 

[ehb5]

Rhythm is getting on a roll with successful 3-5 yard runs consistently.

Well yea but that's not something that leads to success. People just call it rhythm after the fact.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Well yea but that's not something that leads to success. People just call it rhythm after the fact.

K, agree to disagree

 

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[ehb5]

It's not really mutually exclusive. You have to have a back that can grind it out over the long haul. Alf has proven he is that type of back.

Now if they don't want to play the run game that way, that's a different conversation. I'm just pointing out that using Alf the way we have is not doing him any favors.

Also it's not all about Alf in a bubble. Trenches have to win too. Lauvao out, when we've been having most success running left till he was injured could be impacting things more than we know, so too a young right side of the line, as well as not having a deep threat to help stretch the field.

Im not saying running the ball or wearing down a defense isnt important. I just dont get what a specific RB not being "in rhythm" does. Like Im not going to excuse Jones or Morris or our Oline because Gruden is swapping them in and out and they cant get in rhythm. Thats all Im saying.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Im not saying running the ball or wearing down a defense isnt important. I just dont get what a specific RB not being "in rhythm" does. Like Im not going to excuse Jones or Morris or our Oline because Gruden is swapping them in and out and they cant get in rhythm. Thats all Im saying.

Usually the more snaps an effective power back takes, the better the vision for potential holes as well as well as the ability to keep pushing the Defense with exertion. Course that is predicated on getting positive yards that move the chains.

Haven't seen Alf doing much of that. Maybe he has lost a step but hard to say given the number of snaps he's played.

Course haven't seen Jones do it either.

Seems to me they'd be better off choosing a lead guy and changing in the other guy to keep them both fresh.

Just my opinion

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Yeah I agree Cali, rotating every series never seems to work. But it seems to me the problems are up front more than the backs

 

[Caliskinsfan]

From everything I've seen discussed and read about the INT, sounds like it's more on Kirk than anything else.

That said, that was NOT the only reason we lost

 

[ehb5]

Usually the more snaps an effective power back takes, the better the vision for potential holes as well as well as the ability to keep pushing the Defense with exertion. Course that is predicated on getting positive yards that move the chains.

Haven't seen Alf doing much of that. Maybe he has lost a step but hard to say given the number of snaps he's played.

Course haven't seen Jones do it either.

Seems to me they'd be better off choosing a lead guy and changing in the other guy to keep them both fresh.

Just my opinion

I mean I think we just disagree lol. I dont see how we know that vision gets better. That doesnt really make sense. Or "pushing the defense with exertion". Once again I dont get what that means.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Yeah I agree Cali, rotating every series never seems to work. But it seems to me the problems are up front more than the backs

I'm leaning that way too. Course the stacked boxes and lack of a deep threat don't help either. But you HAVE to win in the trenches and we didn't

 

[Sportster 72]

Not going to agree 100% because I see it work in college games. I will say I like a 2 series to 1 rotation and if one guy seems to get really hot then ride him while he's hot. Youngest nephew's team has the best RB in the conference for all 4 years. He still comes out after a couple of series.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

I mean I think we just disagree lol. I dont see how we know that vision gets better. That doesnt really make sense. Or "pushing the defense with exertion". Once again I dont get what that means.

Bottom line, i just see rhythm as the same thing as getting on a roll. Rotating every other series doesn't seem to allow for that.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Not going to agree 100% because I see it work in college games. I will say I like a 2 series to 1 rotation and if one guy seems to get really hot then ride him while he's hot. Youngest nephew's team has the best RB in the conference for all 4 years. He still comes out after a couple of series.

I'd like it if I saw it effectively working for us, that's for sure

 

[ehb5]

Bottom line, i just see rhythm as the same thing as getting on a roll. Rotating every other series doesn't seem to allow for that.

Well Im also the guy that questions what things like momentum and "getting hot" in basketball really mean. I just think in general in sports things get explained after the fact with made up terms.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Well Im also the guy that questions what things like momentum and "getting hot" in basketball really mean. I just think in general in sports things get explained after the fact with made up terms.

Fair point.

I'm not entrenched in my musings on rhythm at all. As you've seen, I think there is much more wrong here than rotating backs or getting into a 'rhythm' (heh)

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Don't know if this will make anyone feel better, but Devonta is playing at an elite level