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The In-Decision

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LOL... Cuban is not happy and he's outing Broussard...

 

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Cuban breaks his silence in message to Mavs fans:

Dear Mavs Fans. There will be a time when I detail everything I know regarding the last 48 hours. I don't think the time is right to say anything beyond the facts that he never responded to me at all yesterday. Not once. To this minute I have not heard anything from him since Tuesday night. More importantly, I specifically told Wes that I would not hold him to his commitment if he wanted to go elsewhere. I can't print his exact response, but suffice it to say he is excited to play for our Mavs :)
 

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This reminds me how the Kansas City Chiefs had a deal with Emmanuel Sanders and the NFL had a moratorium on signing as well. Sanders ended up signing with Denver and Denver lost in the second round.

Sanders, of course, used the proposed contract terms of him on the Chiefs to get a bigger deal in Denver. Some people say that if KC weren't willing to give him a bigger deal then Sanders took the better offer, but he never told the Chiefs that he was taking another offer. Do you pursue after the party has agreed with a handshake? Do you offer more money after agreement? Do you lock them in their hotel room? Do you announce to the world of the deal, right after agreement, against league rules, tagging Sanders Twitter account so it's clear you had an agreement so that if he renegs?

If money was the issue he should've told them he wanted more. If the team was the issue we wanted to use them, there's nothing he should have told the Chiefs, he just used them. Not illegal but can be upsetting.

I watched the game between the Chiefs and Denver and I didn't hear many boos, but I did see Sanders act like an idiot, as if there was nothing upsetting about his behavior, just because it wasn't illegal. Legal/illegal =/= all right in the world.
 

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If Jordan opts for the Clippers, this will almost be as bad as Billy Donovan and the Magic.

What Carlos Boozer did to the Cavs was the worse though.

I'm glad people didn't jump on Frank Gore for changing his mind, I don't know if Gore had a "deal" or just decided he was going to negotiate with the Eagles before going to the Colts.
 

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I'm about as sympathetic towards a players right to make their own FA decision on their own timeline as you can possibly be... but there's just no way to defend the way DeAndre Jordan handled this situation.

If he had called Cuban yesterday and said "I'm sorry, but I changed my mind. I'm staying in LA, the decision is done, there's nothing to meet about." .... I'd probably be on here defending him. But to just go completely silent... basically go into hiding... then sign the Clippers contract without ever talking to the team he verbally committed to... is pathetic.

Or if on Tuesday when he reached out to the Clippers he would have told Cuban as well, that would have at least given Dallas the chance to line up a backup plan "just in case".
 

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Broussard is about to get bitch slapped. His "sources" are going to end up being his own burners.
 

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This is the most pathetic embarassment ever for professionals.

Somehow the Clippers have mixed horrific sportsmanship with comedy gold....and likely forever screwed themselves with all the other owners.

It probably feels like Christmas and a Birthday wrapped up together for Laker fans.

They might as well delete all the other 29 front office telephone numbers from the Clippers contact list.

Aint no other team answering their calls for years....

I'd be lying if I said I'm not enjoying this. I will say though, that I'm enjoying the Mavs part a little less than the Clippers. The Clippers and DJ went full bitch. The Mavs were just the one's that got burned by it.
 

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It seems like the Cavs were the most hated team and everyone would be out to get them. We have good news, everyone forgot about them. It's "Kill the Clippers" time

Cavs/Clippers finals. I think most would root for a sinkhole to open up under the court and just swallow everybody. :lol:
 

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Cavs/Clippers finals. I think most would root for a sinkhole to open up under the court and just swallow everybody. :lol:

As long as Bron dunks on DAJ, Jason Terry style
 

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DeAndre's neighbor tried to get him and blake to play ball with them yesterday:

 

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Cavs/Clippers finals. I think most would root for a sinkhole to open up under the court and just swallow everybody. :lol:

I'll be pissed if Clippers make the finals.
 

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I'm reading that he may have made his mind up on Monday but stayed silent. That's really poor on his part to not only renege on the verbal commitment, but to also not inform Dallas of his change. Dallas would still have been behind the ball regarding other free agents, but that's a still a few more days to work with.
 

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Maybe the Clippers committed a crime by holding DeAndre hostage, but we all know that Jordan wouldn't be man enough to press charges anyway. He's got battered woman syndrome from his relationship with Chris Paul.
 

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I haven't read the link, but the only thing I can think of right now is tortious interference.

promissory estoppel
Promissory estoppel is a common law doctrine used by courts to enforce promises that have been made and subsequently relied upon. Most of the time, contract law dictates the terms of how promises should be enforced. Promissory estoppel usually comes into play when there is no formal contract, but the parties involved have nevertheless acted as if there was one. Courts use the doctrine in these circumstances to impose a contract on the agreement, usually in the interest of fairness.
 

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promissory estoppel
Promissory estoppel is a common law doctrine used by courts to enforce promises that have been made and subsequently relied upon. Most of the time, contract law dictates the terms of how promises should be enforced. Promissory estoppel usually comes into play when there is no formal contract, but the parties involved have nevertheless acted as if there was one. Courts use the doctrine in these circumstances to impose a contract on the agreement, usually in the interest of fairness.

Good point, but I don't think that promissory estoppel is a cause of action by itself. The cause of action against DeAndre would be breach of contract. Against the Clips, the only thing I can think of is tortious interference. If they did sue DeAndre, the only thing that the Mavs could get is money damages. No court would order specific performance (i.e., that Jordan would have to play for the Mavs). I wonder if Cuban is even interested in money damages.
 

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Good point, but I don't think that promissory estoppel is a cause of action by itself. The cause of action against DeAndre would be breach of contract. Against the Clips, the only thing I can think of is tortious interference. If they did sue DeAndre, the only thing that the Mavs could get is money damages. No court would order specific performance (i.e., that Jordan would have to play for the Mavs). I wonder if Cuban is even interested in money damages.


but if the court determines there was a contract in some way that would prohibit the Clippers from signing him. Would it not?
 

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but if the court determines there was a contract in some way that would prohibit the Clippers from signing him. Would it not?

My prediction is no. Assuming the court finds that there was a contract and Cuban prevails in a breach of contract lawsuit, the only thing I see Cuban and the Mavs getting is money damages. The court won't tell DeAndre who he can or can't play for.

People breach contracts all the time, but courts rarely invalidate the contracts that the breaching party subsequently makes with a third party. It's kind of how the free market should work anyway. For example, let's say I told you that I would sell you a car for $1,000, but another buyer comes to me and offers me $2,000. Let's further suppose that this car is very common and you can easily find another seller who would sell it to you within the range of $1,000 to $1,500. Even if you bought at the higher end ($1,500), I can make you whole by giving you $500. If that's the case, then I might be better off breaching our contract.

It is different regarding DeAndre because the Mavs won't be able to find a player like him in the free agent market this offseason; however, DeAndre is a human being, not a car, so the court won't force him to play for the Mavs.
 
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