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Series Thread: 4 game series in Baltimore for Hamilton and the Rangers

donaldson79

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Not if the people on the bench are versatile; Alberto/Rosales covers the SS/IF, a catcher (Corpy), and Martin (CF/OF), with our 1B/DH both being Moreland and Fielder, we're covered there too

Rosales could be the victim here if anything with Alberto being the superior SS

Plus Rua can cover a number of areas including some IF spots. I think Rosales time here is about done.

You both make interesting and good points.

I'm still in favor of Rua going back down to get his timing, strength and confidence back.
 

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Teams try the 6 man rotation from time to time and it usually works out to be a very short term thing. Sooner or later the short bench or short bullpen catches up to them or they get tired of their best starters pitching less than they were before.
 

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Teams try the 6 man rotation from time to time and it usually works out to be a very short term thing. Sooner or later the short bench or short bullpen catches up to them or they get tired of their best starters pitching less than they were before.

Good point there. I just think it could throw the current starters off their game.
 

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Good point there. I just think it could throw the current starters off their game.
I believe there was some evidence that that might have been the case when they did that with Renaudo a couple of weeks ago. At least it seemed that way with some of the guys. It is when you have a 6 man rotation and an off day involved which really tends to mess them up.
 

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I believe there was some evidence that that might have been the case when they did that with Renaudo a couple of weeks ago. At least it seemed that way with some of the guys. It is when you have a 6 man rotation and an off day involved which really tends to mess them up.

I don't think its the issue its been made out to be, and minus Gallardo (right now), I don't think it's that big of a deal if any of these guys misses a start here and there, honestly over the course of a whole season the average number of starts goes from 32 to 27

Not to mention you can keep Gallardo making his regular number of starts by slotting him in every 5 days if that's the case
 

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If they stay in contention I look for them to send Chi Chi down temporarily to limit his innings the same way they are doing with Nick. If they fall out of contention they can simply shut Chi Chi down early. If the latter happens maybe Eickoff or Thompson can come up to finish the season in his place.
 

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If they stay in contention I look for them to send Chi Chi down temporarily to limit his innings the same way they are doing with Nick. If they fall out of contention they can simply shut Chi Chi down early. If the latter happens maybe Eickoff or Thompson can come up to finish the season in his place.

Won't they be looking to limit their innings at about that same time in the season?
 

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I don't think its the issue its been made out to be, and minus Gallardo (right now), I don't think it's that big of a deal if any of these guys misses a start here and there, honestly over the course of a whole season the average number of starts goes from 32 to 27

Not to mention you can keep Gallardo making his regular number of starts by slotting him in every 5 days if that's the case
It seems like when they kept Lee pitching every 5 days and worked everyone around him that some of the other guys suffered, but I could be wrong. That would be even worse in a 6 man rotation I would think. It is hard to say just what the effects will be since it is rarely used, but there just seems to be some potentially bad side effects from it if used for any extended period of time. I would think there has been reasons why teams try it and then shelve the idea soon thereafter.
 
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It seems like when they kept Lee pitching every 5 days and worked everyone around him that some of the other guys suffered, but I could be wrong. That was be even worse in a 6 man rotation I would think. It is hard to say just what the effects will be since it is rarely used, but there just seems to be some potentially bad side effects from it if used for any extended period of time. I would think there has been reasons why teams try it and then shelve the idea soon thereafter.

Seems like conjecture to me, making something out of nothing on a super small sample

The main reason its not used is that it leaves you short on the bench or bullpen
 

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I don't think its the issue its been made out to be, and minus Gallardo (right now), I don't think it's that big of a deal if any of these guys misses a start here and there, honestly over the course of a whole season the average number of starts goes from 32 to 27

Not to mention you can keep Gallardo making his regular number of starts by slotting him in every 5 days if that's the case

There are lots of ways to make a 6 man SP staff work ... and it's not lock step 6 day rotation just like you point out. Guy can get skipped ... off days can mean 2 guys get an extra day.

Means you go to a 6 man bullpen ... but I think anyone over 12yo can figure out who to boot to fix that in about 2 seconds.
 

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Won't they be looking to limit their innings at about that same time in the season?
Thompson still has 55.2 innings before he matches last year's total. Eickhoff still has 67.2 innings before he matches last year's total. If they do decide to shut Chi Chi down that gives them plenty of time to limit Thompson and/or Eickoff in the minors to prepare them to be able to come up in September. That is something they can map out as early as a month from now if they felt they needed to do so.
 

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... as did the rest of the roster.

What does that have to do with the previous point being made, which was about Rua?

Rua obviously isn't right and needs to get ABs to fix it, one HR does nothing to change that perception, as evidenced by his last HR
 

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If they are desperate enough to get Hamilton and Beltre playing before they are well then why not go ahead and activate DeShields?
 

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What does that have to do with the previous point being made, which was about Rua?

Rua obviously isn't right and needs to get ABs to fix it, one HR does nothing to change that perception, as evidenced by his last HR

So TEX is admittedly weak in the RH bat category. We knew that back in December I think. And then TEX had the opportunity to get Hamilton back ... and the only roster impact was Jake Smolinski.

I agree that it would be great for Rua to play every day ... but the thing is ... Rua is needed on the ML roster right now too.

May come down to ... do you want Adam Rosales on the ML roster or Ryan Rua?
 

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So TEX is admittedly weak in the RH bat category. We knew that back in December I think. And then TEX had the opportunity to get Hamilton back ... and the only roster impact was Jake Smolinski.

I agree that it would be great for Rua to play every day ... but the thing is ... Rua is needed on the ML roster right now too.

May come down to ... do you want Adam Rosales on the ML roster or Ryan Rua?

IF Rua is playing everyday then him obviously, but if he's riding the bench, then Rosales
 

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Important game tonight in my opinion. Chance to break the skid by winning a series, would be guaranteed to gain ground on the Astros who are idle today, and would gain ground on Baltimore who is the wildcard leader. If we lose? Series is tied and we gain nothing.
 

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I think he hit a HR last night ...

True....In a a park where the ball seems to sail quite a bit.

I'm sorta looking at a different picture than one AB though. I'd just like to see the young guy get some regular ABs is all.

Wouldn't hurt so much too not be facing ML pitchers every night either.
 
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