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Nos' 2nd Annual NFL Mock Draft : Chat

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So what is everybody's favorite pick of each round (can't be your own as that is too easy as of course we like our own) and what is your favorite pick that you have made for your team so far?
Rd1 - Ereck Flowers to San Diego. To get my top OT prospect at pick 17 is nuts. San Diego also had some oline issues last year.

Rd2 - AJ Cann to the Rams. Its really odd to see a run first team like the Rams have poor interior oline and Cann fits a screaming need for them with a proven SEC player on a team that drafts SEC players.

Rd3 - Jay Ajayi to the Falcons. A lot of people have Ajayi as a top 40 pick and RB is a huge need for the Falcons.

Rd4 - Markus Golden to the Ravens. Golden is going to be good in any scheme as long as he doesn't go into coverage. Was the best player on Mizzou last year when he wasn't hurt. I know that might not translate to star power at the next level but to get a player to fall to the back end of rd4 almost seems like overscouting.

Rd5 - Chris Conley to the Broncos. Because Peyton is still in the league and Conley fits the profile of a guy he'd make really good.

My favorite Jags pick? I like my Eric Rowe pick in rd3. Football Outsiders trashed the Jaguars play against #1 and #2 WRs last year and the Jags had to bring in House from the Packers who was a backend CB prospect. Rowe fits that Seattle CB mold that their defense needs.
 

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All good choices Clayton. Flowers is a guy that I go back and forth on. He has some amazing tape where he just dominates a team but then he has games where he gives up some sacks and pressures and when he gets frustrated he really gets grabby and graded out poorly in penalties compared to the rest of the OT's in the 1st 2 rounds.

Cann like you said fits perfectly with need and value for the Rams. Cann is a guy that you can pencil in as the starter for the next 10 years at the LG spot for whatever team drafts him and they will be happy with what he does. Probably one of my top players of least like to bust in the league.

Ajayi like you said is a great value pick. Any other RB draft and the kid is possibly 1st round possibly early 2nd round type talent. Even with the RB position being downgraded the kid just screams that he will be good for years to come.

Golden again is a guy I am torn on. He doesn't really stand out in one single area but he doesn't really stink at any area either. It is why he is falling down some draft boards as he doesn't have that specialty that makes him pop on screen. You are right though will be a guy that some team will be happy to have him.

Conley was one of my favorite picks to make. While the kid needs a year or two to develop he could definitely turn into something special. He tested off the charts so just needs somebody to bring him along an dlike you said nobody better to do that than Manning for a year.

Rowe is a guy that I am high on as well. With his experience playing both Corner and Safety and doing well at both he is a guy that you can plug into your biggest weakness in the secondary and I think he will make the position better.
 

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Dcumler, can you rate my draft... You seem very knowledgeable... Just wondering how I am doing... Include the fact that I drafted Waller in the 4th round where I could have traded with Jethro for 2 5ths including the first pick in the 5th...
 

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5.19.155: Buffalo: Ramik Wilson - ILB - Georgia
5.20.156: Philadelphia: Titus Davis - WR - Central Michigan
5.21.157: Cincinnati: OTC
5.22.158: Baltimore: Adrian Amos - FS - Penn St.
5.23.159: Arizona: OTC
5.24.160: Pittsburgh:
5.25.161: Carolina:
5.26.162: Tampa Bay:
5.27.163: Minnesota:
 

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Cincinnati and Arizona have both been sent a text...
 

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Nice pick Bengals... Still waiting for AZ
 

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Rd1 - Ereck Flowers to San Diego. To get my top OT prospect at pick 17 is nuts. San Diego also had some oline issues last year.

Rd2 - AJ Cann to the Rams. Its really odd to see a run first team like the Rams have poor interior oline and Cann fits a screaming need for them with a proven SEC player on a team that drafts SEC players.

Rd3 - Jay Ajayi to the Falcons. A lot of people have Ajayi as a top 40 pick and RB is a huge need for the Falcons.

Rd4 - Markus Golden to the Ravens. Golden is going to be good in any scheme as long as he doesn't go into coverage. Was the best player on Mizzou last year when he wasn't hurt. I know that might not translate to star power at the next level but to get a player to fall to the back end of rd4 almost seems like overscouting.

Rd5 - Chris Conley to the Broncos. Because Peyton is still in the league and Conley fits the profile of a guy he'd make really good.

My favorite Jags pick? I like my Eric Rowe pick in rd3. Football Outsiders trashed the Jaguars play against #1 and #2 WRs last year and the Jags had to bring in House from the Packers who was a backend CB prospect. Rowe fits that Seattle CB mold that their defense needs.

Conley...I think he's going to be a serviceable pro...hard worker, runs good routes if you listen to those hardcore Dawg fans...if he did go to DEN...he could be productive early.
 

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Dcumler, can you rate my draft... You seem very knowledgeable... Just wondering how I am doing... Include the fact that I drafted Waller in the 4th round where I could have traded with Jethro for 2 5ths including the first pick in the 5th...

Well here is the grades I would give each pick.

1) Brandon Scherff--B+. If you don't think Mariota is a franchise quarterback then getting the most pro ready OL player that can play really any position on the OL is of great value. The guy has a mean streak about him and plays very technically sound as he does come from one of the best OL schools in the country. So good pick. I give it a B+ instead of an A in I think you could have dropped down a few picks and still got him but that is just a tiny detail and I am probably being a bit too hard on my grading.

2) Tevin Coleman--B+. Again good pick and fits with a plan. The Jets look like a team wanting to be the play good defense and then ground and pound the heck out of it. Honestly no better back that Coleman to be able to do that. Only issue with him is I just don't see him as that 3-down back that some of these other guys are and if you are using a premium pick you usually like a guy that you can depend on for 3rd down as well. Again though good pick.

3) Quinten Rollins--A. This might be my favorite pick of yours. The kid is about as raw as they come after playing 4 years of basketball then just deciding to become a football player. The fact that he can make that kind of transition though and become the MAC DPOY shows just how good this kid could possibly be. I think you give him a year and he emerges as the best Corner of this very good corner group. Getting him in the 3rd just makes it all the better. Throw in he doesn't have to be the star day 1 as he has a talent group in front of him but I do think after a year this kid will be special.

4) Darren Waller-D. This is probably my least favorite pick of yours. From what I understand he was suspended by the team 2 years in a row showing he was just not making good decisions. His motor is a major question as I have heard coaches had to work really hard just to light a small fire under him. He is very very raw so actual production from him probably won't happen will about year 3 or 4 if ever and with motivation issues I just can't see him staying motivated to sit on the bench for a couple of years to develop. If you were going for a developmental receiver with high upside Chris Conley of Georgia would have been your better choice here. Who knows though the kid has everything athletically that you want so I could be dead wrong here.

All in all so far I think you have 3 guys with big time potential and another that is a major developmental project but could develop into something special. Very good draft in my opinion.
 

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Scherff reminds me of Jake Matthews. I think he is going to have issues with nfl talent
 

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Scherff reminds me of Jake Matthews. I think he is going to have issues with nfl talent

I think that depends where they start him. I don't see him as an elite LT type talent but I do think you stick him at LG, RG, or even RT and the guy will do well. It is also partly why I gave the grade a B+ in you usually don't like to use a top-10 pick on a Tackle unless you see them as that franchise LT that will protect the blindside for the next 10 years. However Scherff looks like a guy that could be a pro bowler at any of those other positions so I can see why it would be good to get him.
 

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Thanks Cdumler, I actually had reasoning to my waller pick... But I did not know he was suspended... I really just saw he was 6-6 and the analysis was loving his hands and speed...

My logic in getting him over those other WRs was that with the Jets QB situation, the last thing they need is more options to throw to... Kerley is fine, Decker is good, and Marshall is one of the best... Not to mention we have a nice young TE...

I got Waller as a backup plan in case Marshall goes down, now they could plug in another giant in the redzone!!!

That was my thought process at least... But did not realize he might be a bad egg off the field...

And as for your dropping down comment in the first round... I know, I wanted to drop down, just couldn't find a suitor...
 

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Cdumler, can I have your SportsHoopla cash?

Haha well if you get rid of that Raider logo and replace it with a Bronco one for a year I might be interested in giving it up as I think the only time I have big on this website was the Broncos in the Super Bowl and well that blew up in my face pretty badly.
 
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