cdumler7
Well-Known Member
I agree, Manning will cement his place among the top 3 of all time.
Heck even if Brady wins number 4, he still won't jump Montana.
This is what it will take IMO:
4 to 5 SBs (with a good to great record in SBs)
Post Season Winning % that is good (say 65% or better)
A good to great regular season record (65% or better)
Good to Great Stats (regular and post season)
Manning has the stats, he needs the other pieces which are not exactly easy to get with his track record
Brady has a good chance if he gets to 4. 5 would put him over the top (when you look at everything)
The following also could have a chance:
Rodgers
Luck
Wilson
Big Ben
Of those 4, Ben and Rodgers has the hardest path.
It's cool just gloss over my comment where you say Stats aren't everything but then use stats to try and prove your point. Your problem isn't that you don't like stats it is that you don't like when people don't use the stats that make your guy look better. See that is the great thing about stats in you can always find a stat or two that supports your point and destroys that of your opponent. Looking at Peyton's touchdowns, yards, regular season ability, passer rating in the playoffs, and all those things don't support Brady being the better quarterback so of course you discount them as not be as important as the ones that say Brady is the better guy.
Now to me I'm not big on putting one over the other. They both have a very good set of stats that can support them. I'm fine with just saying both are 1st ballot HOF quarterbacks and leaving it at that. No need to tear down one to build up the other.