RG3's QB Guru

[Freeforall]

QB tutor: RG3 looks '100 percent healthy'

Good to hear. Hopefully this will translate on the field this upcoming season. With the offensive weapons the team has and good play calling. Griffin can have an outstanding season. But still gotta make sure the O-line can and will give him the time he needs.

 

[skinsdad62]

QB tutor: RG3 looks '100 percent healthy'

Good to hear. Hopefully this will translate on the field this upcoming season. With the offensive weapons the team has and good play calling. Griffin can have an outstanding season. But still gotta make sure the O-line can and will give him the time he needs.

ron jaworski mentioned his weight transfer early last season and i for one pooo pooed it . i was wrong

seems like he struggled a lot with the knee brace be it physically or mentally. i think most of it was physical

good news to see that is fixed

i also think he was right about shanahan

 

[Sportster 72]

This was discussed on the Cooley radio show yesterday. Did you think the QB guru was going to say after 6 days I couldn't help him. Cooley, who likes Gruden a lot said the Shanahan comment was ridiculous. A professional coach that pays no attention to a QBs foot work. C'mon you can't believe that. Now I agree his injury may have had a lot to do with his throwing and foot work. Everyone all year said his mechanics were terrible.

 

[skinsdad62]

This was discussed on the Cooley radio show yesterday. Did you think the QB guru was going to say after 6 days I couldn't help him. Cooley, who likes Gruden a lot said the Shanahan comment was ridiculous. A professional coach that pays no attention to a QBs foot work. C'mon you can't believe that. Now I agree his injury may have had a lot to do with his throwing and foot work. Everyone all year said his mechanics were terrible.

of course we must rule out that HE DID HELP him legitimately because the guru HAS TOO say it . nothing with you guys can simply be what it is . it is always has to be some CSI stuff

cooley could be right . maybe the guru should have said they didnt focus on it as much because of him being behind with the injury . i can see that

 

[Sportster 72]

of course we must rule out that HE DID HELP him legitimately because the guru HAS TOO say it . nothing with you guys can simply be what it is . it is always has to be some CSI stuff

cooley could be right . maybe the guru should have said they didnt focus on it as much because of him being behind with the injury . i can see that

dad it is not CSI stuff. I think it's great he went to see the same guy he saw who helped him for the draft. In the end you would expect Gruden to want to work or certain things with Robert also. Coach Gruden was asked the other day about his logo and he said "no big deal, no one in the league is working as hard as Robert."

Why is it that anything that is said that does not agree with dad is CSI stuff? I have mentioned this before but living here we get deluged with this stuff. Of course as you know they really focus on the negative. Yesterday was 24 hours of Andre Roberts is not happy about the Jackson signing. Before that we had two full days of "why is Griffin working on a logo?" So the news that Robert was with Terry Shay was good news, but as Cooley said don't read a lot into the guy that trained him not advertising his business in a positive way.

I am also not in the "everything is Shanahan's fault" camp. He had this team in the right direction when two things happened. The cap penalty hurt him and the team and something (God knows what) went wrong the last year. It is my opinion that neither Shanahan, Griffin or whoever else might have been involved acted in the best interest of the team.

I also agree with a young guy I work with who was good naturedly teasing me about the Redskins "me" players like Jackson, Griffin and Hall that the team is better off with Gruden coaching them than Shanahan. Mike just doesn't handle those types of players well.

 

[skinsdad62]

dad it is not CSI stuff. I think it's great he went to see the same guy he saw who helped him for the draft. In the end you would expect Gruden to want to work or certain things with Robert also. Coach Gruden was asked the other day about his logo and he said "no big deal, no one in the league is working as hard as Robert."

Why is it that anything that is said that does not agree with dad is CSI stuff? I have mentioned this before but living here we get deluged with this stuff. Of course as you know they really focus on the negative. Yesterday was 24 hours of Andre Roberts is not happy about the Jackson signing. Before that we had two full days of "why is Griffin working on a logo?" So the news that Robert was with Terry Shay was good news, but as Cooley said don't read a lot into the guy that trained him not advertising his business in a positive way.

I am also not in the "everything is Shanahan's fault" camp. He had this team in the right direction when two things happened. The cap penalty hurt him and the team and something (God knows what) went wrong the last year. It is my opinion that neither Shanahan, Griffin or whoever else might have been involved acted in the best interest of the team.

I also agree with a young guy I work with who was good naturedly teasing me about the Redskins "me" players like Jackson, Griffin and Hall that the team is better off with Gruden coaching them than Shanahan. Mike just doesn't handle those types of players well.

what you are not seeing sportster is that the same old mantra of "of course he had to say that " is just another reason to dismiss any good things that are coming out that counter to some peoples viewpoint about what happened to RG3 last season .

what happened to RG3 last season is fairly simple . he tried to come back too quickly (for whatever reason) and it turned out his play suffered from it . then you have a segment of the fan base who are upset because he couldnt be the same old Rg3 and blamed him for the teams shortcomings and the failure of their expectations to be realized . the vast majority of the anti -Rg3 sentiment stems from this . i think it was silly for any fan to believe that with all the injuries we had last off season that the skins would burn it up

no . not everything is shanny's fault but we are looking at a 12 pick draft he conducted that could result in almost no gains . he made the trade for DMAC . and i believe he mishandled the whole RG3 thing from the moment he got re-injured in seatle

and i can flip this around back at you , why does everything that is positive written about Rg3 have to back to negative nelly lane ? why cant it simply be that he seems to be healthy now and should be able to play well ?

 

[Sportster 72]

what you are not seeing sportster is that the same old mantra of "of course he had to say that " is just another reason to dismiss any good things that are coming out that counter to some peoples viewpoint about what happened to RG3 last season .

what happened to RG3 last season is fairly simple . he tried to come back too quickly (for whatever reason) and it turned out his play suffered from it . then you have a segment of the fan base who are upset because he couldnt be the same old Rg3 and blamed him for the teams shortcomings and the failure of their expectations to be realized . the vast majority of the anti -Rg3 sentiment stems from this . i think it was silly for any fan to believe that with all the injuries we had last off season that the skins would burn it up

no . not everything is shanny's fault but we are looking at a 12 pick draft he conducted that could result in almost no gains . he made the trade for DMAC . and i believe he mishandled the whole RG3 thing from the moment he got re-injured in seatle

and i can flip this around back at you , why does everything that is positive written about Rg3 have to back to negative nelly lane ? why cant it simply be that he seems to be healthy now and should be able to play well ?

dad, it's the modern day press. Just like I mentioned in my last post. The sports media will spend 4 times as much time on negative agendas as positive because they believe it gets them more attention .... good or bad. It's not modern sports reporters because most know little about sport and are only carnival barkers or professional writers.

Any real fan that doesn't hope Griffin is a success is kind of shooting their own foot off. The trade was made, lets all hope it pays off.

You look over the life of Shanahan's drafts and he did okay. No one bats 1.000. Unless you were in the room when the trade was made you don't know what happened for sure.

 

[skinsdad62]

dad, it's the modern day press. Just like I mentioned in my last post. The sports media will spend 4 times as much time on negative agendas as positive because they believe it gets them more attention .... good or bad. It's not modern sports reporters because most know little about sport and are only carnival barkers or professional writers.

Any real fan that doesn't hope Griffin is a success is kind of shooting their own foot off. The trade was made, lets all hope it pays off.

You look over the life of Shanahan's drafts and he did okay. No one bats 1.000. Unless you were in the room when the trade was made you don't know what happened for sure.

people on this board arent the media sportster those are to whom i am refering too i have spent a lot of time debating people on this board , not the media , about Rg3 and what not .

and the constant refrain is "of course this guy would say that " or "of course the players would say that " as a way of dismissing my point of view and enhancing theirs

a player cant sit down for dinner with an owner without something sinister being said about by our posters

a player compliments an opposing defense and yet he is throwing a coach under a bus

a player says my wrs werent getting open and it means he is throwing them under the bus

he has other interests outside the game and he isnt dedicated to his craft

the media has said this but our posters have too and they fell on their collective swords fighting for their point of view which is ok

but i bring these things back up to show that perhaps they were too harsh in their views and instead of , hey maybe we were a little to harsh it becomes ,' let it go dad " or dad no one can say anything bad about RG3 " again as a way of dismissing my point of view

and again i said all of this would happen as time went on and things shook out better which they have

i could very well have to eat crow on this . Rg3 could be a spoiled diva and a coach killer . he may never master the qb position . the trade may end up in failure but i can eat that crow . it is way too early to write the guy off as many have

 

[Sportster 72]

Not sure why you care what people on here think. This is an opinion based forum, not everyone is going to agree with you. All that matters is what happens on the field.

 

[skinsdad62]

Not sure why you care what people on here think. This is an opinion based forum, not everyone is going to agree with you. All that matters is what happens on the field.

we were having a debate about the issue. of course both sides care what the other side thinks or there wouldnt be a debate

and they dont have to agree with me . i never said that . but i do find it interesting that when terms of "being naive " are bantered about or "someones head is buried in the sand " because i look at things with a positive outlook that these same people dismiss the things i exactly told them

being negative doesnt make you smarter or does it mean you are more savvy

 

[Sportster 72]

we were having a debate about the issue. of course both sides care what the other side thinks or there wouldnt be a debate

and they dont have to agree with me . i never said that . but i do find it interesting that when terms of "being naive " are bantered about or "someones head is buried in the sand " because i look at things with a positive outlook that these same people dismiss the things i exactly told them

being negative doesnt make you smarter or does it mean you are more savvy

You're a fan dad, there is never any mistaking who you are a fan of. It is very apparent which players you favor. There is nothing wrong with that. Obviously others are going to see things differently. In the end we are all Redskins fans rooting for our team, we just go about it different ways.

 

[Tdog21Skins]

Ok! I know RG3's foot work and mechanics were bad last year, but what was the excuse for poor decision making?

 

[Sharkinva]

Ok! I know RG3's foot work and mechanics were bad last year, but what was the excuse for poor decision making?

Too busy thinking about footwork and Mechanics to make a decision maybe??

 

[skinsdad62]

Ok! I know RG3's foot work and mechanics were bad last year, but what was the excuse for poor decision making?

lack of time to translate film study onto the practice field . a lot of perceived decision making could be physical

or he could be a 2nd year guy who doesnt know everything and defenses got the best of him

all qbs make bad choices

as for shark , that was simply a cheap shot

 

[skinsdad62]

Shea says former coaches ?dropped the ball? on RG3?s fundamentals | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

i tend to believe this was a physical issue rather then a coaching mistake

 

[j_y19]

Shea says former coaches ?dropped the ball? on RG3?s fundamentals | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

i tend to believe this was a physical issue rather then a coaching mistake

I don't know what it was, but this was a cheap shot. I'm not a big fan of Shanahan, but this wasn't needed. They guy is gone, no reason to kick him now.

 

[skinz2winz]

I don't know what it was, but this was a cheap shot. I'm not a big fan of Shanahan, but this wasn't needed. They guy is gone, no reason to kick him now.

Or just maybe, it's a real QB coach calling it as he see's it...

 

[skinsdad62]

I don't know what it was, but this was a cheap shot. I'm not a big fan of Shanahan, but this wasn't needed. They guy is gone, no reason to kick him now.

so what if he is gone ? if the shoe fits wear it . now i do think it was more physical then anything else but shanny failed here pretty badly and last seasons coaching job could be one of the worst in history

 

[SoCalWizFan]

so what if he is gone ? if the shoe fits wear it . now i do think it was more physical then anything else but shanny failed here pretty badly and last seasons coaching job could be one of the worst in history

Beyond that I am not going to feel sorry for a guy making $7 million this year for doing nothing. As I always state - once most players/coaches/etc are gone from the Redskins I really could care less about them. I don't wish them anything bad (except for Haynesworth - lol) - just don't care about them.

 

[j_y19]

so what if he is gone ? if the shoe fits wear it . now i do think it was more physical then anything else but shanny failed here pretty badly and last seasons coaching job could be one of the worst in history

Oh, I agree with that. Shanahan and his crew were terrible last year. But it seems rather low class to me to bash another coach who is no longer around, especially when you weren't three and don't know what they tried to do with RG3 or not. It also smacks as maybe self serving by propping yourself up as the QB guru who saved RG3. Its just classless.