Proof positive that Seattle fans have no clue

[Morpheus]

4 years does not = hall of fame career.

Even if he didn't get injured he could have burned out from the heavy workload he took in his first 4 years. There are plenty of runningbacks with equal or better 4 year stretches, what he did was not unprecedented. Over a 5 year stretch even Shaun Alexander blows Davis out of the water and if you shorten that to a 4 year stretch the numbers are not that different:

Shaun Alexander from 2002-2005:
6186 yards rushing 73 rushing touchdowns

Terrell Davis from 1995-1998:
6413 yards rushing 56 rushing touchdowns

Alexander had a mere 227 yards less than Davis, yet 17 more rushing touchdowns. What Davis did was not unprecedented and does not remotely deserve hall of fame consideration for an impressive 4 year stretch.

First of all you are misquoting me. I said arguably one of the greatest 4 year stretches. I never said it was the undisputed best.

That is your opinion of his HOF worthiness and not a valid reason to consider him overrated as a RB.

And I did state that having his career cut short is what is keeping him out of the HOF.

But what your comparison to Alexander lacks is the post season numbers Davis put up.

No RB can match his post season success in back to back Superbowl wins.

 

[seahawksfan234]

You guys are killing me. Denver's zone blocking scheme dominated the NFL for years, but in case you have not heard, football is a TEAM SPORT.

It takes good blocking and a sound scheme to be successful but more importantly it takes a talented back to be able to play in that system. He has to have good vision and be able to make the cutback and read the defense as well as have the physical speed and power to break tackles after he gets to the 2nd level.

Shanahan was great at evaluating that kind of talent, and hit on great RB's for years.

Marshaun Lynch is the same type of back and Seattle uses the same zone blocking scheme with a wrinkle that Denver never had. A running QB.

That is the key to tomorrow's game, stopping Lynch and containing Wilson. If the Broncos defense can't Seattle can win this game.

But if they do limit Lynch and contain Wilson, I don't see Seattle passing effectively enough to come from behind.

I have been around football all my life with relatives who played and coached in the NFL and NCAA division 1.

It's a team game, No man is able to win it all by himself despite what Fantasy Football has brainwashed all of you amatuers into believing.

Which is precisely why Marshawn Lynch's rushing numbers are so much more impressive and Davis's less impressive. Have you seen how bad the Seahawks offensive line is? Probably not. But to clue you in, it is not unheard of for Lynch to get hit the second he gets the ball and have to break a couple of tackles just to get back to the line of scrimmage.

It's a team game, No man is able to win it all by himself despite what Fantasy Football has brainwashed all of you amatuers into believing.

Please drop the idiotic holier than thou act. Your football knowledge is clearly limited, yet you continue to act like you're some sort of holy grail of football knowledge. Instead of talking about how little everyone but you seems to know, how about you try to counter some of the points people have brought up?

I have been around football all my life with relatives who played and coached in the NFL and NCAA division 1.

What do you coach?

 

[TDs3nOut]

Terrell Davis was one of my favorite running backs to watch and there's no denying that he is good...but I don't think what Harold said was that far fetched.

2000 - Mike Anderson 1487 yds
2002 - Clinton Portis 1508 yds
2003 - Clinton Portis 1591 yds
2004 - Rueben Droughns 1240 yds
2005 - Mike Anderson 1014 yds and Tatum Bell 921 yds
2006 - Tatum Bell 1025 yds

The point was valid. Terrell Davis was great but how great was he when that same Franchise was able to produce so many 1000 + rbs after TD. I'm biased since I'm a big fan of TD so I have him in my top 5, but I could see an argument made against it.

Maybe not, but I certainly understand how the part of his post where he wrote that he's "not sure how good Davis was" might elicit a response that includes "clueless".

 

[Wolvie]

I'm somewhat confused by the OP. So Morpheus, what you are saying is that you think the Seahawks are going to win this game? Obviously Terrell Davis was a great RB, just as Lynch is. And Davis, when he was in his prime, won a SB. Just as Lynch may do tomorrow. The parallels are pretty strong

 

[seahawksfan234]

First of all you are misquoting me. I said arguably one of the greatest 4 year stretches. I never said it was the undisputed best.

Since Shaun Alexander's rushing yardage is extremely similar, yet has a considerably higher amount of rushing touchdowns, his 4 year stretch would therefore be one of the greatest as well?

That is your opinion of his HOF worthiness and not a valid reason to consider him overrated as a RB.

I never explicitly stated that he was overrated. I said that an impressive 4 year stretch does not merit hall of fame consideration. Was he outstanding in those 4 years? Absolutely. But it takes more than just 4 years to be considered great.

And I did state that having his career cut short is what is keeping him out of the HOF.

So you agree he does not deserve to be in the hall of fame?

No RB can match his post season success in back to back Superbowl wins.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you just say that football is a team sport?

 

[WizardHawk]

Wait, so you create a thread just to slam one fan? Wow. Stay classy Denver. Stay classy.

 

[WizardHawk]

Maybe not, but I certainly understand how the part of his post where he wrote that he's "not sure how good Davis was" might elicit a response that includes "clueless".

OK, so respond to it where it was posted. What kind of person takes that and creates a whole new thread that not only is made to blatantly attack a board poster, but spreads it to attack everyone that follows that posters team?

Anyone who supports any of his claims or the creation of this thread is an asshole. You don't need to create new threads to attack people no matter what they said that you don't agree with. Just

 

[Morpheus]

Which is precisely why Marshawn Lynch's rushing numbers are so much more impressive and Davis's less impressive. Have you seen how bad the Seahawks offensive line is? Probably not. But to clue you in, it is not unheard of for Lynch to get hit the second he gets the ball and have to break a couple of tackles just to get back to the line of scrimmage.



Please drop the idiotic holier than thou act. Your football knowledge is clearly limited, yet you continue to act like you're some sort of holy grail of football knowledge. Instead of talking about how little everyone but you seems to know, how about you try to counter some of the points people have brought up?
What do you coach?

Really? So debating an opinion is me acting holier than thou, but the BS most of your fan base says is ok?

I have countered every point that anyone has brought up including schooling your fan base on what type of defense Seattle plays because no one actually knew on that thread.

Some of you guys have been civil and knowledgeable but the majority talk a lot of BS.







I coached WR and QB when I did coach. My uncle is Gene Stallings, my nephew is Ricky Rahne who used to coach QB at Vandy and went with Franklin to Penn State as QB and passing coach and my Uncle Al Atkinson played for the Jets on the Superbowl team with Namath.

played all my life but joined the Army instead of accepting a college scholarship because after 9/11.2001 there are things in life more important than football.


Screw this, I don't have to explain myself to you guys,

Good luck tomorrow, may the better team win.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I'm somewhat confused by the OP. So Morpheus, what you are saying is that you think the Seahawks are going to win this game? Obviously Terrell Davis was a great RB, just as Lynch is. And Davis, when he was in his prime, won a SB. Just as Lynch may do tomorrow. The parallels are pretty strong

I think his plan is to collect some of Knowshon Moreno's tears and sacrifice them in some sort of strange ritual to all of the NCAA/NFL coaches he knows in the hope that he can bring back the 1998 Terrell Davis so that the Broncos have a prayer of having some form of a rushing attack against the Seahawks, because lord knows Manning falls apart when it matters.

 

[SonnyCID]

OK, so respond to it where it was posted. What kind of person takes that and creates a whole new thread that not only is made to blatantly attack a board poster, but spreads it to attack everyone that follows that posters team?

Anyone who supports any of his claims or the creation of this thread is an asshole. You don't need to create new threads to attack people no matter what they said that you don't agree with. Just

this

 

[WizardHawk]

And now he is on to name dropping to make himself sound smarter?

Wow.

 

[Morpheus]

OK, so respond to it where it was posted. What kind of person takes that and creates a whole new thread that not only is made to blatantly attack a board poster, but spreads it to attack everyone that follows that posters team?

Anyone who supports any of his claims or the creation of this thread is an asshole. You don't need to create new threads to attack people no matter what they said that you don't agree with. Just

Dude, you are so full of BS. almost every single one of your posts are an all out attack on someone instead of intelligent debate.

If you are ever in Colorado, I would be happy give you an education in manners.

Good luck.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Really? So debating an opinion is me acting holier than thou, but the BS most of your fan base says is ok?

No but this does:

I have been around football all my life with relatives who played and coached in the NFL and NCAA division 1.

It's a team game, No man is able to win it all by himself despite what Fantasy Football has brainwashed all of you amatuers into believing.

Don't be such an idiot. You act like if they could not do it without blocking they must not be any good.

Again, all you get from Seahawks fans are jokes, stupid videos, and insults.

No logical debate. No Football knowledge. Just bravado and BS.

Oh yeah, and the fact that you called out an entire fan base as clueless because you disagreed with what one poster said. Seems pretty holier than thou to me. You're the one lacking a logical debate, football knowledge and the one who is throwing around insults.

I have countered every point that anyone has brought up including schooling your fan base on what type of defense Seattle plays because no one actually knew on that thread.

That is why a majority of my posts comparing Terrell Davis and Shaun Alexander have been ignored, correct?

Screw this, I don't have to explain myself to you guys,

So I come along with statistics, valid arguments countering your opinion and you suddenly decide to leave? Yeah it was definitely an intellectual debate you were seeking.

Good luck to you as well.

 

[Morpheus]

And now he is on to name dropping to make himself sound smarter?

Wow.

Seahawksfan24 asked so I told him. How is that name dropping?

 

[hawkturnal]

Dude, you are so full of BS. almost every single one of your posts are an all out attack on someone instead of intelligent debate.

If you are ever in Colorado, I would be happy give you an education in manners.

Good luck.

Super Bowl is in a few hours man....you should be excited, not angry. Stress much..? GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

 

[TDs3nOut]

I think his plan is to collect some of Knowshon Moreno's tears and sacrifice them in some sort of strange ritual to all of the NCAA/NFL coaches he knows in the hope that he can bring back the 1998 Terrell Davisso that the Broncos have a prayer of having some form of a rushing attack against the Seahawks, because lord knows Manning falls apart when it matters.

Now you're playing right into the clueless label.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Dude, you are so full of BS. almost every single one of your posts are an all out attack on someone instead of intelligent debate.

If you are ever in Colorado, I would be happy give you an education in manners.

Good luck.

So creating a thread over what one person said, calling an entire fan base clueless is a display of good manners?

I've tried to remain civil in this discussion but you've really got some issues with hypocrisy. You ignored a majority of the responses I made to your claim and suddenly go running away when you realize that I'm winning the argument.

Instead of using any form of logical or coherent argument you ignore a majority of my counterarguments and start mentioning people in your family who have coached in some strange appeal to ethos in an attempt to establish credibility, when you ignored every piece of evidence I have given you.

 

[dredinis21]

Wiz, for fucks sake, quit stirring the pot and re-read the thread. 234 challenged him by asking him what he coached and he responded. It was pretty obvious where 234 was trying to take this thread with that line of questioning. Now bc he listed his as well as his family credentials that now blew up in 234's face a little bit, you come in to chastise him for name dropping?

Wow indeed.

 

[SonnyCID]

I think it's past Morpheus' nap time.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Now you're playing right into the clueless label.

It was kind of obvious after I mentioned sacrificing Knowshon Moreno's tears that my post was completely satirical.