Clemens class act

[DK7000]

You say Bradford would be winning these games just as easily, yet he LOST games with the same talent THIS YEAR. That is really all that needs to be said.
Clemens is not the QB of the future...he is the QB of RIGHT FREAKING NOW. And right now, we are clicking. I still think either Bradford at 9-10 million per season or a rookie will be the starter week 1 next season. But it is nice to know what we actually have in a vet like Clemens. You think the Packers wouldn't want Clemens right now?? How about Houston??

The same young talent wasn't performing in the same manner at the beginning of the year as they are now-not to mention some are seeing more playing time than before. I don't understand why that's a hard concept to grasp for some of you, but apparently it is.

 

[demiurge]

The packers have Flynn back, and he's at least as good as Clemens.

Houston is just in disarray across the board. There's playoff talent there and they are going to draft in the top 5. That's more than just the QB. Its the coach. Honestly, I don't know that Clemens would be doing any better there. He's been run out of town as unsuccessful 3 times before.

I'm happy that Clemens gets this, and he's trying his absolute best. But this isn't going to continue because we aren't going to play teams that completely can't stop the run like the Colts (27th) and Bears (32nd) the entire rest of the way.

Teams that could stop the run beat Clemens, because he's not good enough to beat you with his arm.

 

[jacobarch]

This board cracks me up......people are so short sighted it's mind boggling. Glad their opinions really don't matter.

 

[Caynine29]

10/22 for 167 yards, 1 TD, ZERO INTs.

I’d say he did his job. Granted, I’d prefer to see his attempts capped at 20 (fewer, if permissible). As long as the running game and the defense do their jobs, we can obviously win games with this guy. Yeah, he had a few lousy throws… but he also had some phenomenal ones, as well. He had a 3rd down pass, on the run, under pressure, to Jared Cook that was money. And the TD pass to Cook was a frozen rope between two defenders. Both excellent throws by ANY passer’s standards. Most importantly, though he was responsible for NO TURNOVERS. If he’s going to be spotty, I’d prefer it to be in this manner.

When the day comes where we have to put the game on his shoulders, I’m still not 100% convinced he can come through, but i guess we’ll cross that bridge when we get there. Until that day, I'll back the guy 100%!

Go 'head Clemens. Keep doin' what you do!

 

[Vitamike]

QB Kellen Clemens Press Conference

I think the Rams have their starting QB. Clemens has gained the respect of the team on both sides of the ball. Go Rams Beat the Whiners...

If the choices are Clemens or Davis, I think you're right!

If not, be prepared for things to change when Bradford comes off IR.

 

[zeke2829]

Actually the Bears had the ball for 36 minutes to our 24. It's not all Zac Stacy, Cunningham had a huge game, so evidently a lot of the praise has to go to the oline. But then again we have been doing this against some pretty beat up teams that are not playing very well.

I don't like Bradford, and Clemens is not the answer, but for now he is getting the job done, and that's all I ever wanted from Bradford, but he wasn't getting it
Done!

You are correct about the Bears game, but what about the games prior to that;

TIME OF POSSESSION RAMS vs Oponents

with Clemons @QB
Seatlle game- Seattle 21:51 Rams 38:09 Loss
Titan game- Titans 27:09 Rams 32:51 Loss
Colts game- Colts 29:22 Rams 30:38 Win
Bears game- Bears 36:09 Rams 23:51 Win

With Bradford @ Qb
Dallas game- Dallas 33:28 Rams 26:32 Loss
Arizona game- Arizona 31:25 Rams 28:35 Win
49er game- 49ers 31:45 Rams 28:15 Loss
Jags game- Jags 24:41 Rams 35:19 Win
Houston game- Houstan 35:10 Rams 24:50 Win
Atlanta game- Atlanta 30:17 Rams 29:43 Loss
Carolina game-Carolina 33:20 Rams 26:40 Loss

I see 6 games out of 7 with Bradford at QB where our defense was on the field the majoriy of the game. and OBTW we won 3 out of 7.
I see 3 out of 4 games with Clemons at QB where our offense was on the field the majority of the game.

 

[Vitamike]

The QB runs the show and he touches the ball first on every play from scrimmage. Make fun if you want Sam lovers but this ship turned around when Sam went down. All I did was post Clemens post game comments. Jeez!

Really?

Because if you knew anything about what was going on at Rams camp maybe you would have noted Jeff Fisher coming into the locker room and saying that the league had just shortened the season to 11 games. After that they changed their offensive philosophy, style and approach. It took awhile and we did win a couple of games in the process (As a matter of fact, the Rams were heard cheering 'TWO AND O, TWO AND O, TWO AND O" after the Houston game.

You Bradford haters need to acknowledge just what really happened to turn this team around. Since that changing the offensive philosophy, the Rams are 4-3 all the while plugging in their 'backup' QB in the midst, prior to the QB change and since the SF game with the coaching staff made the offensive style the Rams were 2-1 (.667). Since the QB change the Rams are 2-2 (.500).

The lack of credit you all want to give to the coaching staff for the incredible job they have done to turn this thing around is unbelievable!

 

[Vitamike]

I've been quiet up until now....


To me, Its all about winning....


Pretty funny how all of these Bradford lovers give all credit to our run game. Its obvious that they don't understand football enough to realize that the battle is won in the trenches. Yah that's right, those holes that our rbs are going through were put there by our o-line.


Rambunctious posted Clemons presser, and in it, Clemons praises the o-line numerous times!! Its our o-line that's making our offense click, not just Zac Stacy alone. Our o-line coach has got these guys playing like they should be. Putting Saffold at guard was a brilliant move. Now we should think about signing him long term. Hell Stacy left the game before halftime and Cunningham came in and ran wild for 100+ yards. But no one wants to talk about the guys up front.


CLemons is not the long term answer, but at least he has enthusiasm. A LEADER should be someone that sets an example and everyone will follow. People tend to forget that we are now winning the time of possession battle keeping our defense off the field. They are playing great football. Its all about having a little enthusiasm and wanting to win, I don't see that when Sammy is in there, they have the "Ho Humm" attitude but the team as a whole is clicking when Clemons is in there. We are playing well on the road and at home.


Hmmmm... I wonder if it all boils down to Sam gigantic contract???

Why is that Zeke?

Why do you think the offensive line suddenly started to 'click'?

Why didn't they 'click' early in the season in the first 5 games?

Why now?

Could it be they pulled in the Tight ends? Could it be they now have a Full Back to support the OL's efforts?

 

[Vitamike]

Clemens is the starting QB for the rest of the season, bar injury.

After that, he's a guy they are looking to replace. He'd need to do far, far more than he has to bring his name into that competition.

Glad to see a gutsy QB that's hitting deep throws when the defense cheats up against the run.

HATE the fact we have a guy that can barely complete half of his passes, even with an amazing running game backing him up.

We won't always be able to run like this, and when we don't, we'll lose.

Old timers, you remember Pat Haden? Dieter Brock? Even with pro bowl players all around them, when they met another team with that capability they couldn't get the job done. Good guys, tried really hard, smart and competitive - just didn't have the physical capability.

Everyone loves an underdog, and if Clemens upped his game to the level he could be a real threat to the starting job that would be fantastic.

But 52% isn't it, and it will show as soon as we play a team that can stop the running game. If he manages to get his completion % up and convert 3rd downs against the Niners, I'd be ecstatic.

But to this point, he hasn't shown that ability. His TEAM is kicking ass. He's playing OK, but his limitations are apparent.

I'll disagree with this one.

If the Rams can win with Clemens (I mean over .500 in the games he starts) he will find a roster spot as the backup QB next year.

So far in this offense, I think he is winning the backup role for next year hands down.

We do however still draft a QB even if he wins out. However, one who can replace Bradford should Sam not pan out next year. The bottom line, we will carry three QB's on our roster much as we are doing now.

Sam as the starter
Kellen as the backup
QB draftee as a 'franchise QB hopeful'

By this draftee's junior season we will know whether he displaces Sam or Kellen, gets traded or is a bust.

 

[LTR1961]

"HAHAHA!! Bradford's talent level? What's that exactly? Please explain for those of us that don't understand football!"

Bradford is a telented QB, there was a reason we was picked as high as he was in the draft. Even if it was a stronger draft he would have been a top 10 pick. His problem is that he doesn't have the "it" factor. Certain QB's (Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers) have the "it" factor but not Sam. Bradford at his best can probably be a top 10-12 QB but never a top tier. Can you win a Super Bowl with a guy like that? Yes asked the Ravens. However, you better make sure you're not asking him to carry the entire load like you can with a Manning or a Rodgers.

 

[demiurge]

I'll disagree with this one.

If the Rams can win with Clemens (I mean over .500 in the games he starts) he will find a roster spot as the backup QB next year.

So far in this offense, I think he is winning the backup role for next year hands down.

We do however still draft a QB even if he wins out. However, one who can replace Bradford should Sam not pan out next year. The bottom line, we will carry three QB's on our roster much as we are doing now.

Sam as the starter
Kellen as the backup
QB draftee as a 'franchise QB hopeful'

By this draftee's junior season we will know whether he displaces Sam or Kellen, gets traded or is a bust.

I agree with that. I meant in the role of a starter, but yeah, I wasn't specific so I can understand why you thought I meant 'get rid of' when I said replace.

Clemens as a backup is sounding like a better solution all the time.

If he can replicate this success and start getting his % up, I'd say go ahead and let him challenge in camp for the starter role.

Even then I'd assume Bradford would beat him out, which he has every year in camp so far.

But he's proven he can be successful in the right situation. But the one good D he ran into in his 4 games destroyed him, so I'm not sold yet as anything other than the backup.

 

[demiurge]

You are correct about the Bears game, but what about the games prior to that;

TIME OF POSSESSION RAMS vs Oponents

with Clemons @QB
Seatlle game- Seattle 21:51 Rams 38:09 Loss
Titan game- Titans 27:09 Rams 32:51 Loss
Colts game- Colts 29:22 Rams 30:38 Win
Bears game- Bears 36:09 Rams 23:51 Win

With Bradford @ Qb
Dallas game- Dallas 33:28 Rams 26:32 Loss
Arizona game- Arizona 31:25 Rams 28:35 Win
49er game- 49ers 31:45 Rams 28:15 Loss
Jags game- Jags 24:41 Rams 35:19 Win
Houston game- Houstan 35:10 Rams 24:50 Win
Atlanta game- Atlanta 30:17 Rams 29:43 Loss
Carolina game-Carolina 33:20 Rams 26:40 Loss

I see 6 games out of 7 with Bradford at QB where our defense was on the field the majoriy of the game. and OBTW we won 3 out of 7.
I see 3 out of 4 games with Clemons at QB where our offense was on the field the majority of the game.

So yeah, they changed from a spread offense to a dominant run game, and their yards per game rushing tripled and their time of possession increased. They are playing Parcells ball, and yeah, that can win in this league.

No one is arguing with that. But that means the QB is far less important, and just a glance at the stats you can see that.

 

[SJ76]

Why do you think the offensive line suddenly started to 'click'?

Why
didn't they 'click' early in the season in the first 5 games?

Why
now?

Could it be they pulled in the Tight ends? Could it be they now
have a Full Back to support the OL's efforts?

Why couldn't the weapons on offense get in sync with bradford? They had mini camps, pre-season, and the first 6-7 games.. But now all of the sudden it's happening...

Weird huh? Makes you go hmmmmmm

 

[SJ76]

You say Bradford would be winning these games just as easily, yet he LOST games
with the same talent THIS YEAR. That is really all that needs to be
said.
Clemens is not the QB of the future...he is the QB of RIGHT FREAKING
NOW. And right now, we are clicking. I still think either Bradford at 9-10
million per season or a rookie will be the starter week 1 next season. But it is
nice to know what we actually have in a vet like Clemens. You think the Packers
wouldn't want Clemens right now?? How about Houston??

KSU... always the voice of reasoning.

 

[SJ76]

10/22 for 167 yards, 1 TD, ZERO INTs.

I’d say he did his job. Granted, I’d prefer to see his attempts capped at 20
(fewer, if permissible). As long as the running game and the defense do their
jobs, we can obviously win games with this guy. Yeah, he had a few lousy throws…
but he also had some phenomenal ones, as well. He had a 3rd down pass, on the
run, under pressure, to Jared Cook that was money. And the TD pass to Cook was a
frozen rope between two defenders. Both excellent throws by ANY passer’s
standards. Most importantly, though he was responsible for NO TURNOVERS.
If he’s going to be spotty, I’d prefer it to be in this manner.

When the
day comes where we have to put the game on his shoulders, I’m still not 100%
convinced he can come through, but i guess we’ll cross that bridge when we get
there. Until that day, I'll back the guy 100%!

Go 'head Clemens. Keep
doin' what you do!

Caynine... always the voice of shut up and do your job!

 

[SJ76]

And he only contributed 1 TD to that effort yesterday. The big gains in the
running game is behind our success on offense. Period. I get that you and others
need to promote an anti-Bradford agenda to fit your warped reality. But no one
with half a brain thinks this success is because Clemens is at QB.

Certainly NOT you Bradford lovers. Tell me this DK7000, you give credit to your boy Samantha for last year tieing and beating San Fran, beating Seattle - when most of us know that it was Greg the Leg and our D. You said, "WHO GOT US INTO FG POSITION AND RAN THE OFFENSE?"

YET... here you down play Clemens throwing 1 TD, making some good plays and good throws, and running the offense.


AND I'M THE ONE WITH AN AGENDA?


What exactly is that BS? Are you seriously that in love?

See I call Sam bad when he's bad. I call Sam average when he's average. And I never said that Clemens has been on fire, but for coming in as the back-up and not having the entire pre-season and 6-7 games to gel with the offense... He's doing pretty good running the offense and way better than we all expected.

You people give all the excuses in the book as to why Sam didn't succeed with this offense. AND you find every reason why Clemens is getting lucky and everyone around him has all of sudden come to play..?


Do you even have any idea how stupid you sound?

 

[Vitamike]

Why couldn't the weapons on offense get in sync with bradford? They had mini camps, pre-season, and the first 6-7 games.. But now all of the sudden it's happening...

Weird huh? Makes you go hmmmmmm

What you Bradford haters are suggesting is a huge slight to what the coaching staff has implemented since Game 6 v Jacksonville.

For me this isn't about Sam at all, rather the wholesale changes to our offensive scheme.

I understand how it doesn't help your cause but it then again why should we let fact cloud the myopic mindset of a hater?

Haters hate regardless and that's that!

 

[SJ76]

OH IT'S A MIRACLE!!


The O-line suddenly has their game face on and the RBs are ballin, the WRs are catching balls.

LOLOL Maybe there is a thing called LEADERSHIP in this game of football!???

Go show me a stat for bringing Leadership to the table!

 

[SJ76]

For me this isn't about Sam at all, rather the wholesale changes to our
offensive scheme.





I understand how it doesn't help your cause but it then again why should we
let fact cloud the myopic mindset of a hater?

Haters hate regardless and that's that!

Nobody's is hating! LOL The Rams beatdown the Bears without #8. WE ARE LAUGHING.

AND YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF EXCUSES.

 

[ksudodger]

OH IT'S A MIRACLE!!


The O-line suddenly has their game face on and the RBs are ballin, the WRs are catching balls.

LOLOL Maybe there is a thing called LEADERSHIP in this game of football!???

Go show me a stat for bringing Leadership to the table!

Well said brother...well said!!