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Beckett did have an off year, but the rest of the starters suffered because Valentine was CLUELESS about when to go to the bullpen. I have never, in 40 years of following baseball, seen any manager as bad as Valentine in that area.
 

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ah, ok. ellsbury wants the same deal as carl Crawford

who wants to pay ellsbury $20mill/yr for 7 years?

any takers?

how bout you west coast psychos?
 

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ah, ok. ellsbury wants the same deal as carl Crawford

who wants to pay ellsbury $20mill/yr for 7 years?

any takers?

how bout you west coast psychos?


At least you did not call me Francis..........

The Dodgers have no need for him, so it will not be they that bite on this. That said, I have zero issue with them over-paying to fill an actual roster need.
 

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Beckett did have an off year, but the rest of the starters suffered because Valentine was CLUELESS about when to go to the bullpen. I have never, in 40 years of following baseball, seen any manager as bad as Valentine in that area.

2012 red sox
734 runs, allowed a whopping 806 runs
david ortiz played 90 games
ellsbury played 74 games and hit a cool 4 home runs
team ERA was ranked 14th

2013 red sox
scored 853 runs, allowed 656 runs
ellsbury and ortiz played over 130 games each
team ERA was ranked 15th

how is the 2012 season all valentine's fault? and do you see how I think Farrell actuall does deserve the award this year?
 

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At least you did not call me Francis..........

The Dodgers have no need for him, so it will not be they that bite on this. That said, I have zero issue with them over-paying to fill an actual roster need.

you and FOX

give the Astros $7 billion and see what happens
 

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ah, ok. ellsbury wants the same deal as carl Crawford

who wants to pay ellsbury $20mill/yr for 7 years?

any takers?

how bout you west coast psychos?

Despite opinions to the contrary, I don't think he's all that much better than the guy we paid 5/$90 for, so no.
 

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Despite opinions to the contrary, I don't think he's all that much better than the guy we paid 5/$90 for, so no.

good answer

can you answer on behalf of hammer? I would like to know why san diego would rather pay for a nice new ballpark rather than bid on jacoby ellsbury and others....
 

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Bigger seats for Tony Gwynn's big booty?
 

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another good answer

worrld, take some notes
 

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good answer

can you answer on behalf of hammer? I would like to know why san diego would rather pay for a nice new ballpark rather than bid on jacoby ellsbury and others....


First, you have to build it. Then, they will come.

The problem with San Diego is that they don't come often enough to boost their payroll to be able to sign top tier free agents. That, and the many personnel moves at the top of their food chain recently, including their onwer/owners, g.m, etc.
 

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Congrats to Francona and Hurdle.

Though I thought Farrell should have won, I have no complaints with the award going to the classy Francona. It was well deserved.

My question to CaptO is this: what do the Indians do at closer and SP? Do they slot Cody Allen as closer or overpay for a guy like Balfour, Rodney, or Benoit? Is Pestano done? it looked like he was the closer in waiting until he got hurt.

Will they get a veteran starter to go with Masterson, Salazar, McAllister, Kluber, and Bauer? Will they even have the money if they extend Masterson?

Will they finally trade Asdrubal?

An Asdrubal trade is very possible. Lindors being prepped to take over

Bauer (IMO) needs to stay in Columbus. Guys got a ego the size of Texas - wont listen to anybody, insists on doing it his way. Which so far hasnt worked out too well. Hopes of being able to negotiate a multi-yr contract with Ubaldo still alive , maybe also Kazmir (if hes willing to accept a 1-yr deal)

Rumors have it that talks with Rodney & Brian Wilson are on the board. Allen & Shaw are currently in the mix to close

It wasnt just Pestanos injury - he lost his edge. My bet - he stays in Columbus
 

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you confuzzle yourself. I had nothing to do with it

This is where you confused me, see below. You got some splainin to do:
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I think this award to francona makes up for his non-rewards in '03, '04, and '07 because boston bought many during those years....
 

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First, you have to build it. Then, they will come.

The problem with San Diego is that they don't come often enough to boost their payroll to be able to sign top tier free agents. That, and the many personnel moves at the top of their food chain recently, including their onwer/owners, g.m, etc.

now wait a minute

they built fenway over 100 years ago. they came and they still come!

I thought giving Mexicans jobs was a good thing (according to hammer)
you're telling me they don't buy baseball tickets? exactly how is this helping our economy?
 

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then why did 99 percent of baseball experts pick the Sox to finish fourth or fifth in that division if he had "all that talent"

cant have it both ways as it appears some of the voters did

Probly because of the mess the clubhouse was in after both the chicken & beer fiasco & Valentines 'reign'. But Farrell got em all on the same page again - & fired up. Which is why all the 'experts' were proved wrong
 

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2012 red sox
734 runs, allowed a whopping 806 runs
david ortiz played 90 games
ellsbury played 74 games and hit a cool 4 home runs
team ERA was ranked 14th

2013 red sox
scored 853 runs, allowed 656 runs
ellsbury and ortiz played over 130 games each
team ERA was ranked 15th

how is the 2012 season all valentine's fault? and do you see how I think Farrell actuall does deserve the award this year?

blaming it all on valentine is a copout

bunch of players mailed it in and did more bitching than playing

some of that is on valentine, some of that is on the players

i actually liked the valentine signing at first
 

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This is where you confused me, see below. You got some splainin to do:
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I think this award to francona makes up for his non-rewards in '03, '04, and '07 because boston bought many during those years....

I couldn't edit it. I sooo would but apparently it's etched in SportsHoopla history as the biggest brock blunder of all time.

shoot me
 

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just wondering what site did all those CBS guys end up at??
 

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I couldn't edit it. I sooo would but apparently it's etched in SportsHoopla history as the biggest brock blunder of all time.

shoot me

dont worry

i only had pickles tweet, facebook, instagram and chatroulette it

nobody will notice
 

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i actually liked the valentine signing at first

likes valentine signing, CHECK

likes satan manning's ginormous forehead, CHECK

like books, CHECK



worrld is ironhorn!
 
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