Great Article on Kobe being overrated

[BOTSLAYER]

Beat me to it Mont

 

[Jims_Doors]

That is a good point.

MJ and LBJ have never been Robin, but Kobe has. That is not the definition of the greatest player of all-time in my book. That is why Lebron has a chance.

Not true.

LeBron was Robin his first year in Miami. The following year is when Wade basically said "it's LeBron's team now." He knew it would be better if James was the go to guy. Once that was cleared up....B2B championships.

 

[shitsho]

I wonder if he was delirious when he did it? I can picture him crying with snot running out of his nose after 12 hours of non-stop questioning.

 

[shitsho]

Not true.

LeBron was Robin his first year in Miami. The following year is when Wade basically said "it's LeBron's team now." He knew it would be better if James was the go to guy. Once that was cleared up....B2B championships.

If there were ever a true 1a and 1b, that 1rst year with Wade and Lebron was it. That team was Wades team by default but everyone knew who the best player was.

 

[lakersrule]

Bryant Told Police of O'Neal Payouts - Los Angeles Times


LOL horrible by Kobe.


Reading wikipedia I am finding a hard time siding with Kobe here.

Shaq?Kobe feud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After reading this Wikipedia, you have a hard time siding with Kobe?

 

[Heatles84]

After reading this Wikipedia, you have a hard time siding with Kobe?

Snitching on your teammate voluntarily about the women he's slept with is a bitch move. I personally don't agree with the decisions Shaq made over his career in the past. But if it doesn't concern you then why air someone else's laundry publicly on a voluntary basis?

 

[Vitamike]

I guess choke stands for L

And clutch stands for W

To the media and haters Shanemansj13, but not to me.

Where do you stand?

Guessing hardly states a position and is contrary to my point (As I'm sure you know).

Just make a stand, not some flip and ambiguous statement like you did here.

Tell me, if this is your stance, why a guy like Karl Malone ranks so high (From those who chose to do such rankings) and a guy like Bill Russell is so low?

How do those smart guys put Malone, who has won jack in the Finals, above a dude who has won 5 of 5 Game Sevens in the Finals and 11 Finals in what 13 season?

The point here is, this BS is all subjective and 100 expert out of 100 can have 100 different lists.

Clutch or Choke ..

Win or Lose ..

 

[lakersrule]

Snitching on your teammate voluntarily about the women he's slept with is a bitch move. I personally don't agree with the decisions Shaq made over his career in the past. But if it doesn't concern you then why air someone else's laundry publicly on a voluntary basis?

Yes it was a bitch move, but there was a lot more to the fractured relationship than just that moment.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

After reading this Wikipedia, you have a hard time siding with Kobe?

I totally see Kobe's side and can understand that but I am always a team first guy and it seems Kobe was less team oriented than Shaq.

I am probably a little biased because I think Shaq is better in so many ways so I am more apt to trust his actions over Kobe's.

 

[Vitamike]

Not true.

LeBron was Robin his first year in Miami. The following year is when Wade basically said "it's LeBron's team now." He knew it would be better if James was the go to guy. Once that was cleared up....B2B championships.

True revisionist JD.

As I recall it WAS Wade who was the 2 time League MVP, not James, just prior to the James taking his talents to South Beach.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

True revisionist JD.

As I recall it WAS Wade who was the 2 time League MVP, not James, just prior to the James taking his talents to South Beach.

I think you mixed up the names there...


and JD was spot on. They tried to be co team leaders etc but Wade would slip up and say it was his team and LBJ would say "Our Team".

There is even an article about it. Every thing JD said is reference to quotes.

 

[Jims_Doors]

True revisionist JD.

As I recall it WAS Wade who was the 2 time League MVP, not James, just prior to the James taking his talents to South Beach.

Hey....just repeating what Wade said. Don't kill the messenger.

 

[Jims_Doors]

I think you mixed up the names there...


and JD was spot on. They tried to be co team leaders etc but Wade would slip up and say it was his team and LBJ would say "Our Team".

There is even an article about it. Every thing JD said is reference to quotes.

Nahhhh....Mike's just being sarcastic.

 

[Sman2011]

If there were ever a true 1a and 1b, that 1rst year with Wade and Lebron was it. That team was Wades team by default but everyone knew who the best player was.

Who was the better player? The guy hiding in the corner, biting his nails?

 

[Shanemansj13]

To the media and haters Shanemansj13, but not to me.

Where do you stand?

Guessing hardly states a position and is contrary to my point (As I'm sure you know).

Just make a stand, not some flip and ambiguous statement like you did here.

Tell me, if this is your stance, why a guy like Karl Malone ranks so high (From those who chose to do such rankings) and a guy like Bill Russell is so low?

How do those smart guys put Malone, who has won jack in the Finals, above a dude who has won 5 of 5 Game Sevens in the Finals and 11 Finals in what 13 season?

The point here is, this BS is all subjective and 100 expert out of 100 can have 100 different lists.

Clutch or Choke ..

Win or Lose ..

That wasn't my POV, I was referring to the media.

I try to factir in everything. Winning is the most important, but you have to factor in everything. It is tough and like you said all opinion except for that guy at #1

 

[BOTSLAYER]

Ok, so I guess I got leveled?

well played Vita, well played

 

[Shanemansj13]

Who was the better player? The guy hiding in the corner, biting his nails?

That guy in the corner just won 2 straight ships, sorry he couldn't win in first yr.

 

[Vitamike]

That wasn't my POV, I was referring to the media.

I try to factir in everything. Winning is the most important, but you have to factor in everything. It is tough and like you said all opinion except for that guy at #1

If winning is the most important than why is that guy with 11 rings behind that guy with 6 at #1?

 

[Flauge]

Just to comment on the Kobe/Shaq thing. I think Kobe was a complete douche for dragging Shaq into his investigation with the police. That's a rat. But whatever. Kobe was definitely wrong there.

But Shaq can be an incredible cry baby himself. He feuded with Wade when he was in Miami near the end of his time here. Reports at the time had him calling Wade "boy wonder" around the locker room and in team meetings, which is dick. also shaq and barkley seem to have issues on the TNT set as well.

Bottom line, I think alot of superstar athletes are probably self absorbed assholes and large egos in the same locker room probably dont mix. i wasnt there in LA to know the he said/she said bs that went on between the two. So i will stay out. the only thing i know for sure is kobe brought up shaqs name when he was being questioned by the police. that's dick.

 

[Vitamike]

Nahhhh....Mike's just being sarcastic.

Thanks JD! I didn't think it was a trick post....

BTW - If you're just he messenger than what is your opinion?

I'd really like to know...