Texas A&M success "redue"

[OnlyCrimson]

Why?

Here you go guys with the requested poll selections.

 

[Camfantasy]

1-2 against decent teams with wins over Louisiana Tech, SMU, South Carolina St., Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, Miss St., and Sam Houston State.

Sumlin and Manziel helped....but any top-20 team in the country should go through that BS unscathed.

 

[starbigd]

1-2 against decent teams with wins over Louisiana Tech, SMU, South Carolina St., Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, Miss St., and Sam Houston State.

Sumlin and Manziel helped....but any top-20 team in the country should go through that BS unscathed.

But they would RULE the Big 12, despite all evidence to the contrary.....

 

[romeo212000]

But they would RULE the Big 12, despite all evidence to the contrary.....

Well of course. They're an SEC team now after all.

 

[Camfantasy]

But they would RULE the Big 12, despite all evidence to the contrary.....

Depends on what their Big12 schedule would have looked like this year. Anybody have that handy?

I could see A&M struggling more in the Big12 with their mediocre defense though. They would be in a similar position as West Virginia probably.

 

[rolltide14_0]

SEC vs Big 12....we'll settle this shit in the Championship game...

OH wait...no we won't....lol

 

[fordman84]

Depends on what their Big12 schedule would have looked like this year. Anybody have that handy?

I could see A&M struggling more in the Big12 with their mediocre defense though. They would be in a similar position as West Virginia probably.

No way A&M defense is as bad as WV.

 

[starbigd]

SEC vs Big 12....we'll settle this shit in the Championship game...

OH wait...no we won't....lol

you do know there is now an SEC/B12 bowl game, right?

 

[starbigd]

No way A&M defense is as bad as WV.

NOt as bad.....but I'm not sold they can defend the spread attack. Lets face it, for 99% of the SEC teams, if you stop the run, you shut them down.

It's not like the conference is loaded with great QBs and WRs. And Aggy got to play a fairly soft schedule, altho a lot of it was out of their control.....like Petrino getting canned, Auburn sucking ass, etc.

The stars lined up perfectly, but they really haven't played that tough a schedule.

 

[Camfantasy]

No way A&M defense is as bad as WV.

Nah, probably bad example....but they are 50th in a conference that is anything but good on the offensive side of the ball. And Louisiana Tech did score 57 points on them. I could see 75th-100th in total D being reasonable if they were in the Big12. Not as bad as WVU's 121st though.

Edit-And yes I do realize LT has a good offense (as I am hoping VT hires their OC in the off season) but they still have no business scoring 57 points on a big time D1 team that recruits Texas.

 

[fordman84]

Nah, probably bad example....but they are 50th in a conference that is anything but good on the offensive side of the ball. And Louisiana Tech did score 57 points on them. I could see 75th-100th in total D being reasonable if they were in the Big12. Not as bad as WVU's 121st though.

Yes, the top ranked scoring offense in the nation scored 57 on them.

I'm not saying the defense is great, but they wouldn't have had their same record as last year if they were in the Big12 this year.

 

[Camfantasy]

you do know there is now an SEC/B12 bowl game, right?

And Alabama isn't out of the woods in playing in it either.

 

[theboardref]

you do know there is now an SEC/B12 bowl game, right?

You do know that game doesn't start until the playoffs start right?

 

[fordman84]

Nah, probably bad example....but they are 50th in a conference that is anything but good on the offensive side of the ball. And Louisiana Tech did score 57 points on them. I could see 75th-100th in total D being reasonable if they were in the Big12. Not as bad as WVU's 121st though.

Edit-And yes I do realize LT has a good offense (as I am hoping VT hires their OC in the off season) but they still have no business scoring 57 points on a big time D1 team that recruits Texas.

They had 16 in the first half. 27 of those were crazy late in the game in the damned prevent "take a knee" mode of not giving up the big play.

 

[Camfantasy]

Yes, the top ranked scoring offense in the nation scored 57 on them.

I'm not saying the defense is great, but they wouldn't have had their same record as last year if they were in the Big12 this year.

I addressed LT in my edit :roll:

I don't think they would have had the same record either. I think they are a much better team this year than last.....but depending on how the schedules would have looked, it is possible that they would have 2-3 less wins.

 

[fordman84]

I addressed LT in my edit :roll:

I don't think they would have had the same record either. I think they are a much better team this year than last.....but depending on how the schedules would have looked, it is possible that they would have 2-3 less wins.

I don't see any defenses that are near what those are in the SEC, so I say it would wash out.

 

[starbigd]

I don't see any defenses that are near what those are in the SEC, so I say it would wash out.

yeah because pure offense has always won in the B12

Baylor, OSU, TTech, WVU all light up scoreboards......so does Texas and OU. It's not a given A&M would outscore them all.

History says no

 

[Camfantasy]

I don't see any defenses that are near what those are in the SEC, so I say it would wash out.

Just depends on what the schedule looked like..... outside of the 3 teams that we already discussed the best defense A&M saw this season was Miss. St. at #46 (who had a pretty weak schedule themselves.)

 

[fordman84]

yeah because pure offense has always won in the B12

Baylor, OSU, TTech, WVU all light up scoreboards......so does Texas and OU. It's not a given A&M would outscore them all.

History says no

History? Manziel and Sumlin have zero history in the Big12, so you can toss history in file 13.

 

[fordman84]

Just depends on what the schedule looked like..... outside of the 3 teams that we already discussed the best defense A&M saw this season was Miss. St. at #46 (who had a pretty weak schedule themselves.)

so those three defenses that we did see, who's to say that all three of those wouldn't convert to wins in the big12 sched? For the offenses that the Big12 has this year, the A&M defense would do fine against most. Our offense has been pretty stellar against all teams, only struggling against those top 3 teams. I don't see any Big12 defense that could come close to those 3, so I'd be thinking the scoring would be even higher.

But it is pointless. All this stems from the butthurt in the Big12 over the SEC and A&M. The big12 supporters like to take this as proof positive that the SEC must suck. They ignore Mizzou's struggles though, and only look at the difference from last year to this year, despite last year having a mid year QB change, a dead in the water coach, and a dead in the water team/conference relationship.