How long before the new helmet rule is abused?

[Ballboy534]

In eight years of playing football my helmet came off once and that was in a pee wee practice. As a LB I filled the gap and and had a helmet to helmet w/ our running back running full steam.

We never had more that a chin strap with one snap on either side. As others have stated, I had to put my fingers in the earholes and pull out to get it off.

The one time I lost my helmet? I made the stop, coach came over to make sure I was alright, then commenced to chewing me out for improper tackling.

Yeah, I just don't get how these helmets pop off so often.

 

[uncfan103]

A kid took his helmet off for Elon, it didnt slow Carolina down though because play kept going and he just never made it back on the field for the drive. I think they might try to take them off in piles, but i dont think it would be that easy. And its not worth the penalty to try to rip it off with a tackle.

 

[Ballboy534]

A kid took his helmet off for Elon, it didnt slow Carolina down though because play kept going and he just never made it back on the field for the drive. I think they might try to take them off in piles, but i dont think it would be that easy. And its not worth the penalty to try to rip it off with a tackle.

I couldn't believe Boyd's helmet KEPT coming off; get him one that it takes two people to pull of for God's sake. Can't have the starting QB ineligible because his lid won't stay on...

 

[Ballboy534]

And UNC took Elon to the woodshed yesterday...

 

[Ballboy534]

Nice to see at least a few ACC teams didn't struggle with FCS opponents

 

[romeo212000]

It hasn't cost anyone majorly thus far, but I can envision a star RB or QB being ineligible for a critical third down because of it.

Maybe they'll start wearing helmets that actually fit then.

 

[romeo212000]

Yeah, I just don't get how these helmets pop off so often.

Because they don't fit properly. They're way too loose, which also makes them more prone to concussions.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

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just finished watching college football daily and they addressed this issue. They basically said the exact same thing we have: The helmets are not being worn properly and this new rule is going to give defense's a reason to try to rip a helmet off. We need this rule to be amended. Sitting a player out for one play isn't accomplishing anything as far as getting helmets to stay on. It will however get someone's head ripped off.

 

[Ballboy534]

By the way, this thread is a good opportunity for me to dispel any misbeliefs that helmets prevent concussions. I will say this once; THEY DO NOTHING OF THE SORT. Helmets are designed to prevent skull and facial fractures; the brain is suspended in liquid. ANY blow, jarring hit, or other force that creates a whiplash (even very minor) to ANY part of the body can cause the brain to "slosh" around and be injured.

 

[romeo212000]

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just finished watching college football daily and they addressed this issue. They basically said the exact same thing we have: The helmets are not being worn properly and this new rule is going to give defense's a reason to try to rip a helmet off. We need this rule to be amended. Sitting a player out for one play isn't accomplishing anything as far as getting helmets to stay on. It will however get someone's head ripped off.

If coaches and equipment managers would start making their players wear helmets that fit appropriately it wouldn't be an issue.

 

[romeo212000]

By the way, this thread is a good opportunity for me to dispel any misbeliefs that helmets prevent concussions. I will say this once; THEY DO NOTHING OF THE SORT. Helmets are designed to prevent skull and facial fractures; the brain is suspended in liquid. ANY blow, jarring hit, or other force that creates a whiplash (even very minor) to ANY part of the body can cause the brain to "slosh" around and be injured.

I see your point, but I would suggest that wearing a helmet that doesn't fit properly can increase your risk for concussion as opposed to a properly fitting helmet.

 

[Ballboy534]

I see your point, but I would suggest that wearing a helmet that doesn't fit properly can increase your risk for concussion as opposed to a properly fitting helmet.

A concussion is a transient, temporary brain injury that doesn't result in a physical injury to the brain tissue. A loose helmet doesn't necessarily translate into an increased risk for concussions; more likely a soft tissue injury or at worst fracture to the skull or face that would cause physical trauma to the brain tissue. The research supports the statement that helmets do not prevent concussions because they do not have the ability to mitigate the shock that causes a concussion in the first place. Interestingly enough, concussions seem to be a result of a cellular level biochemical change that typically resolves 7-10 days from the initial injury.

 

[romeo212000]

All the more reason to wear a correctly fitting helmet IMO.

 

[Ballboy534]

All the more reason to wear a correctly fitting helmet IMO.

Skull fractures suck...

 

[nolehusker]

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just finished watching college football daily and they addressed this issue. They basically said the exact same thing we have: The helmets are not being worn properly and this new rule is going to give defense's a reason to try to rip a helmet off. We need this rule to be amended. Sitting a player out for one play isn't accomplishing anything as far as getting helmets to stay on. It will however get someone's head ripped off.

A player does not have to sit out if his helmet is ripped off as a result of a foul (facemask). Essentially, a player can't grab your helmet and rip it off.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

A player does not have to sit out if his helmet is ripped off as a result of a foul (facemask). Essentially, a player can't grab your helmet and rip it off.

they did it 3 times to Tajh Boyd when we played Auburn and NO flags were thrown. Even the show I watched the other day highlighted the shots of Auburn players with their arms around Tajh's neck and their hands grabbing his facemask as they were going down or already on the ground. It's a bad rule as it is written. I like the intent of it, but sitting a player out for 1 play does nothing to fix the problem. It only creates another problem.

 

[nolehusker]

Didn't watch that. I guess I should've said as long as a foul is called. If a foul isn't called then yeah it's worthless and I doubt that the refs are looking at every player and can call everything. Especially if they aren't near the ball.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

NCAA Must Adjust New Helmet Rule | College Football News, Opinion and Analysis | Chuck Oliver.Net

On opening weekend, Clemson had a fourth and goal on Auburn’s one, up four, with a chance to put the game away. Unfortunately, Tajh Boyd, whose legs they rode down the field, just lost his helmet for the third time of the game. Per NCAA rules, Boyd had to sit out. Clemson had to kick a field goal instead and give the ball back to Auburn with a chance to tie.
Last Saturday, Missouri’s James Franklin lost his helmet twice against Georgia. He and coach Gary Pinkel said that Georgia ripped his chinstrap off on purpose to get him out of the game. You cannot blame Georgia. They saw Auburn take advantage of a new rule and keep themselves in the game. For a player and coach, it’s no different than holding a defensive lineman – keep playmakers from making plays.
Neither incident appeared to change the game’s outcome, but eventually it will. Coaches will continue to use the misguided rule to their advantage. Offenses have no way to protect their players if a tackler wants to pull off the helmet. They can only hope the officials catch it. The NCAA has just enacted a law that punishes players for not protecting themselves without giving them any way to do so.
Clemson’s staff “could not secure [Boyd’s] helmet anymore,” according to head coach Dabo Swinney. “[They] basically had to cut off his circulation trying to keep it on.” What would the NCAA suggest, Boyd reshape his head?
I expect to see every running quarterback face the same problem. His helmet will unexpectedly (not) pop off after a second and long, and the officials will pull to safety on the sideline. Boyd, Franklin, and others better watch out, because until this rule changes, they will be targets. Defensive coaches would be poor strategists not to get players to separate opponents from their helmets. Auburn appeared to target Boyd’s helmet, and rightfully so. Taking advantage of a silly rule is gamesmanship, and it almost helped them beat a superior team.
If the NCAA wants to protect these guys and keep players from exploiting the rule and purposefully endangering other players, protect them before play starts. Make sure they have the appropriate gear, and if not flag them for it. If an official notices someone without his chinstrap on, blow the play dead before it starts and flag his team for five yards. All we can do is tell the guys to wear their gear properly. Anything after that is just a shortcoming of the equipment, not the user.

 

[OregonDucks]

CAL already did this a few years ago with the fake injuries. So I am sure it won't take long.

 

[romeo212000]

Edisto, if his helmet actually fit it wouldn't have been so easy to rip off.