Do we have a CBA strife thread yet?

[Nasty_Magician]

I'd prefer to keep Tallinder given the choice, but certainly someone on D would need to go for the Devils (preferably Zidlicky or Greene).

 

[sbb122]

They sure hit the nail on the head with the Sabres choice.

Didn't look at the link yet but is has to be Leino.


/Now that i have looked at the link i am shocked TB has Lecavalier for 8 more years at 7.7M. WTF?

 

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Dreger with the Captain Obvious tweet of the day:

DarrenDreger: If NHL doesn't honour existing contracts and guarantee players $1.883 share there will be no deal anytime soon. Biggest day of negotiation.

 

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/Now that i have looked at the link i am shocked TB has Lecavalier for 8 more years at 7.7M. WTF?

It's the Len Barrie gift that keeps on taking

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Didn't look at the link yet but is has to be Leino.


/Now that i have looked at the link i am shocked TB has Lecavalier for 8 more years at 7.7M. WTF?

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

If Wang doesn't amnesty Ricky if given the chance, he'll never hear the end of it from Isles fans.

 

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James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
Was told that six teams would receive huge chunk of rev share under NHLPA system: Phoenix, NY Isles, Columbus, Florida, Nashville, Carolina

 

[sbb122]

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
Was told that six teams would receive huge chunk of rev share under NHLPA system: Phoenix, NY Isles, Columbus, Florida, Nashville, Carolina

So Philly will end up paying for Weber anyway???

 

[evolver115]

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
Was told that six teams would receive huge chunk of rev share under NHLPA system: Phoenix, NY Isles, Columbus, Florida, Nashville, Carolina

So Philly will end up paying for Weber anyway???

Exactly, just like Pittsburgh would help pay for the contract that Shero wrote for Staal that Rutherford signed him to

Let's hope for that amnesty clause. At least that can be put to good use.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
Was told that six teams would receive huge chunk of rev share under NHLPA system: Phoenix, NY Isles, Columbus, Florida, Nashville, Carolina

I'd just like to thank the rest of the LEAGUE!!

 

[puckhead]

I'd just like to thank the rest of the LEAGUE!!

don't make me point out that Yashin is still on the books for two more years.

:ss:

 

[banditshcky11]

So Philly will end up paying for Weber anyway???

This pisses me off to no end. A team who knowingly can't afford to match an offer sheet does, then expects the team who offer sheeted the guy to help them foot the bill. FUCK revenue sharing, just fold the sinking teams already or move them to real hockey markets.


If I was Snider(Jacobs or any other rich owner) I'd say I'm not sharing my revenue, the interesting thing is the Snider can basically kill televised hockey at this point.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

don't make me point out that Yashin is still on the books for two more years.

:ss:

Perfect Timing. The Islanders will have another 2.3M come off the books for the offseason before they move into the BARCLAY'S CENTER!!

 

[Darkstone42]

This pisses me off to no end. A team who knowingly can't afford to match an offer sheet does, then expects the team who offer sheeted the guy to help them foot the bill. FUCK revenue sharing, just fold the sinking teams already or move them to real hockey markets.


If I was Snider(Jacobs or any other rich owner) I'd say I'm not sharing my revenue, the interesting thing is the Snider can basically kill televised hockey at this point.

While Phoenix may have no business being in the NHL, Nashville's fanbase is pretty decent. But we see what happens when there's no revenue sharing in MLB, where even good markets, because they're not as big as New York, Boston, Los Angeles, etc., cannot make plays in free agency. There are plenty of baseball fans there, and attendance is fine, but there are simply fewer people and fewer dollars to be had.

When it comes down to it, revenue sharing is necessary to have a strong league, and the need for revenue sharing and the use of revenue sharing overall lead to lower player salaries, which allows for less turnover and more "fan favorites" to be retained overall. Snider may share his profits, but I would argue that by sharing them, he generates more from greater leaguewide interest (which leads to league television and merchandise revenues which are shared with all teams).

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

While Phoenix may have no business being in the NHL, Nashville's fanbase is pretty decent. But we see what happens when there's no revenue sharing in MLB, where even good markets, because they're not as big as New York, Boston, Los Angeles, etc., cannot make plays in free agency. There are plenty of baseball fans there, and attendance is fine, but there are simply fewer people and fewer dollars to be had.

When it comes down to it, revenue sharing is necessary to have a strong league, and the need for revenue sharing and the use of revenue sharing overall lead to lower player salaries, which allows for less turnover and more "fan favorites" to be retained overall. Snider may share his profits, but I would argue that by sharing them, he generates more from greater leaguewide interest (which leads to league television and merchandise revenues which are shared with all teams).

The Padres are a good example. With new ownership & a relatively new ballpark along with a sweet TV deal they hope to have a 75 to 80 million payroll year in year out. That's still nowhere near many other teams.

If the Islanders are involved in revenue sharing, it would be the first time.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

While Phoenix may have no business being in the NHL, Nashville's fanbase is pretty decent. But we see what happens when there's no revenue sharing in MLB, where even good markets, because they're not as big as New York, Boston, Los Angeles, etc., cannot make plays in free agency. There are plenty of baseball fans there, and attendance is fine, but there are simply fewer people and fewer dollars to be had.

When it comes down to it, revenue sharing is necessary to have a strong league, and the need for revenue sharing and the use of revenue sharing overall lead to lower player salaries, which allows for less turnover and more "fan favorites" to be retained overall. Snider may share his profits, but I would argue that by sharing them, he generates more from greater leaguewide interest (which leads to league television and merchandise revenues which are shared with all teams).

 

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I read the following as slow but steady progress being made:

"@drosennhl: Bettman: We have work to do, my hope is that we can achieve the goal of getting a long term, fair agreement in place as quickly as possible."

"@drosennhl: Bettman: "Everyday that passes I think is critical for the game and for our fans.""

"@drosennhl: Bettman: "Collective bargaining is a process and it has peaks and valleys and ebbs and flows, and it is very tough to handicap.""

Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib

I'm told that today's meetings with the #NHLPA were "constructive." Progress is being made slowly. Internal meetings for both tonight

Edit: Meeting over for today, plans are to meet again on Friday.

 

[banditshcky11]

While Phoenix may have no business being in the NHL, Nashville's fanbase is pretty decent. But we see what happens when there's no revenue sharing in MLB, where even good markets, because they're not as big as New York, Boston, Los Angeles, etc., cannot make plays in free agency. There are plenty of baseball fans there, and attendance is fine, but there are simply fewer people and fewer dollars to be had.

When it comes down to it, revenue sharing is necessary to have a strong league, and the need for revenue sharing and the use of revenue sharing overall lead to lower player salaries, which allows for less turnover and more "fan favorites" to be retained overall. Snider may share his profits, but I would argue that by sharing them, he generates more from greater leaguewide interest (which leads to league television and merchandise revenues which are shared with all teams).

What you said makes perfect sense. However coupled with the fact that many(read most) of the deals signed this summer were contingent on a salary rollback it just goes to show how some ownership groups are comfortable operating using other peoples money. I don't doubt the ownership group of the coyotes will all recieve money individually over the next few years despite what the franchise posts as loses. Also there is that whole "creative accounting" thing going on all over the league now.

I guess since the Weber situation directs affects MY team I'm more pissed about it. Then again I'm not a big fan of the offer sheet system the way it is. I'd much rather see offer sheeting a player have a higher cost to the team who makes the offer and if their current team matches the player has final say over where wind up playing. So I guess I'm not a fan of the whole RFA status but I'm sure it's in pace to keep contract values down.

 

[davnlaguna]

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PA trying to go back to the deal league walked out on 2 weeks ago?

 

[Dacks]

Twitter sounded pretty positive today. Consecutive days of long meetings, quiet in the media, and meeting again tomorrow.

You know, negotiating. Think they could have done this six months ago?