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Boston is very good.

They are not a super team.

Crazy how fast they went from people talking about them needing to blow it up to this.

Smart was a good regular season player who thought he was a part of the big 3

He was not
 

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There is never going to be competitive balance. There are going to be good teams and bad teams. Boosting a mediocre team to good or contention can be just as valuable, or more so, to the competitive balance than raising a bad team to mediocrity. Hiring poor GMs is really the issue and that is either a GM or an owner issue. A real solution would be to have a stronger minor league that is included in the draft and a relegation system.

All of that may be true, but it doesn't change that the purpose of the draft is to make the bad teams better. If you have 30 teams in the league, you need 30 teams to be viable or at least on the path to becoming viable.
 

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All of that may be true, but it doesn't change that the purpose of the draft is to make the bad teams better. If you have 30 teams in the league, you need 30 teams to be viable or at least on the path to becoming viable.
Change the revenue sharing so that teams that don’t even make the play ins get far less and watch how quickly the owners care a whole lot more about the quality of their GM.
 

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Change the revenue sharing so that teams that don’t even make the play ins get far less and watch how quickly the owners care a whole lot more about the quality of their GM.

You're going through an awful lot of gymnastics trying to avoid the simple major sports policy of "worst teams get first pick". Drafts, waivers, etc.
 

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You're going through an awful lot of gymnastics trying to avoid the simple major sports policy of "worst teams get first pick". Drafts, waivers, etc.
That is because it doesn't solve the problem. The worst teams do get very good draft picks, often the top pick, yet many remain the worst teams.
 

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That is because it doesn't solve the problem. The worst teams do get very good draft picks, often the top pick, yet many remain the worst teams.

I think recent results at #1 say otherwise.

Minnesota, Detroit, Orlando and SA both had the highest odds (and were at worst 2nd worst record) and have improved significantly in the past 5 years since their #1 overall picks. Hawks last year got really lucky, but also not so much in a down year for top end talent.

Pels have been all over the place with Zion's injuries and the AD trade, but they were a better team that got lucky (Grizz got lucky too that year and ended up with Ja). Suns have been a playoff team but not because of Ayton. Nets famously bombed with Fultz. Sixers and Simmons, enough said.
 

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I think recent results at #1 say otherwise.

Minnesota, Detroit, Orlando and SA both had the highest odds (and were at worst 2nd worst record) and have improved significantly in the past 5 years since their #1 overall picks. Hawks last year got really lucky, but also not so much in a down year for top end talent.

Pels have been all over the place with Zion's injuries and the AD trade, but they were a better team that got lucky (Grizz got lucky too that year and ended up with Ja). Suns have been a playoff team but not because of Ayton. Nets famously bombed with Fultz. Sixers and Simmons, enough said.

Grizz were super lucky because that pick was supposed to go to Boston before they moved up
 
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