2025 Cowboy Draft

[jarntt]

I think most of us think BPA is the sound way to think.
I also think most of us think if BPA's is close between 2 players lean towards the one of need. (to a point)
but my point is. If you have a player targeted that you want in that round. Dont get cute & dont worry about which Number pick you are from where you think he should go. Just go take him! if you took a guy 12 or 18 he is the same guy. you either hit or missed on him regardless. I think people overthink in the moment when in fact they having been thinking about this for months!

This^
Exactly 100% this on all counts

 

[jarntt]

I'm not sure how good he will be exactly, but how fun would it be to have @Godstree Dad's guy Skattebo? Maybe in the let's say the 3rd round? At worst he is a short yardage and potential 3rd down back who can rotate in with a ceiling of a potential #1 or 1a and damn if he wouldn't be an instant fan favorite. I can't get the Gladiator comparison out of my head

 

[UK Cowboy]

I'm not sure how good he will be exactly, but how fun would it be to have @Godstree Dad's guy Skattebo? Maybe in the let's say the 3rd round? At worst he is a short yardage and potential 3rd down back who can rotate in with a ceiling of a potential #1 or 1a and damn if he wouldn't be an instant fan favorite. I can't get the Gladiator comparison out of my head

I loved the kid in college, I just don't think his game is going to translate to the NFL. That's a kid that if the hole weren't there, he would make a hole. Not sure that will work out. But im pulling for him

 

[UK Cowboy]

I know I wont complain if we get a 3 down back.
they are gold, no matter how they get treated.
Not only do they help the running game, they helping the passing game & they help the OC, but as a bonus they also help the defense As Zeke proved when we had a struggling defense.

That is actually one reason I was ok with the TE there. At the time, guys like Hampton and Henderson looked like they would be there at 44. That's no longer the case
I thought if Jeanty were off the board, a kid like Warren would help because Schotty is big on two TE sets, and he is such a good receiver, teams would almost have to stay in nickel or dime to defend us, which would create blocking mismatches in the run game. But now, most mocks i see have the top 4 guys possibly being gone by 44. This team doesn't need a 2nd tier RB. We had our best seasons with a dominant back, be it TD, Emmitt or Zeke. We need another

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

If Hampton is their 20th best player and their goal is to get a bell cow back, they should take Hampton at 12 because he won't be there at 44, no way. I doubt Henderson or Johnson are either

If Jeanty gone I want Hampton or Henderson. If not then it will be RB by committee again. I am ok with that if they they get a great player in round one. They need to hit on the 1st round pick regardless of position.

 

[jarntt]

That is actually one reason I was ok with the TE there. At the time, guys like Hampton and Henderson looked like they would be there at 44. That's no longer the case
I thought if Jeanty were off the board, a kid like Warren would help because Schotty is big on two TE sets, and he is such a good receiver, teams would almost have to stay in nickel or dime to defend us, which would create blocking mismatches in the run game. But now, most mocks i see have the top 4 guys possibly being gone by 44. This team doesn't need a 2nd tier RB. We had our best seasons with a dominant back, be it TD, Emmitt or Zeke. We need another

Everyone taiks about Warren and he probably goes top 10 or at least top 15 for sure. I'm not so sure the drop off from him to the Michigan kid is all that much. I'm not saying I'd take Loveland before him, but I think both are going to be good players and I wouldn't be shocked if 5 years from now he ended up the better player. Neither will be anywhere near as dynamic as Bowers but both will be a nice addition to any team

 

[Manster7588]

here is the danger of saying BPA always.
If you have a guy you need.
He turns into an 8 year all pro
Then who really cares if he was a reach according to draft experts.

Lets say for an example (non cowboy team) The Giants really like Dart, but if they take him at #3 everyone will scream how desperate they were & it was a "reach" Now if Dart turns into the best QB in this draft. Will anyone care later?

Didnt the Chiefs when they traded up to get mahomes. Wasnt that considered to much & a reach?

If we decided Hampton is the man & plays like an all star for us for years to come. Then it was a well used 1st round.

BPA honestly is just a rule of thumb (that can vary greatly) & also a great way of blaming teams for picks that didnt work out.

I've always said you factor in need when picking BPA, but reaching for that need is a mistake.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

That is actually one reason I was ok with the TE there. At the time, guys like Hampton and Henderson looked like they would be there at 44. That's no longer the case
I thought if Jeanty were off the board, a kid like Warren would help because Schotty is big on two TE sets, and he is such a good receiver, teams would almost have to stay in nickel or dime to defend us, which would create blocking mismatches in the run game. But now, most mocks i see have the top 4 guys possibly being gone by 44. This team doesn't need a 2nd tier RB. We had our best seasons with a dominant back, be it TD, Emmitt or Zeke. We need another

 

[UK Cowboy]

Everyone taiks about Warren and he probably goes top 10 or at least top 15 for sure. I'm not so sure the drop off from him to the Michigan kid is all that much. I'm not saying I'd take Loveland before him, but I think both are going to be good players and I wouldn't be shocked if 5 years from now he ended up the better player. Neither will be anywhere near as dynamic as Bowers but both will be a nice addition to any team

I agree and disagree about the Bowers comparison. I dont think Warren will be as dynamic as Bowers, but i think he will be every bit as good. I see Bowers as a Tony Gonzales type of TE. I think Warren is between a Witten or a Gronk. I think Loveland is excellent, sort of a Sam LaPorta caliber kid.
RB wise, I'm Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson and Johnson. Past them i think it goes Judkins RJ Harvey and Sampson out of Tenn. Past that in round 2/top of 3 and i think you are throwing darts

 

[tomodach10]

If Jeanty gone I want Hampton or Henderson. If not then it will be RB by committee again. I am ok with that if they they get a great player in round one. They need to hit on the 1st round pick regardless of position.

I am not OK with another year of running back by committee. It does not work unless you have two studs. And like last year, you wait half the season to settle on a back and be right back looking for a#1 RB again next offseason. No thanks.

 

[jarntt]

I've always said you factor in need when picking BPA, but reaching for that need is a mistake.

I think we are all circling around the same general thought process more than we thought we were a while back

 

[jarntt]

I am not OK with another year of running back by committee. It does not work unless you have two studs. And like last year, you wait half the season to settle on a back and be right back looking for a#1 RB again next offseason. No thanks.

First, Think about our running game the last half of the season once we ditched Zeke and gave the Carries to Rico. It wasn’t about going away from a committee it was about getting a shitty, old slow back off the field. Heck didn’t 99% of Cowboy fans know coming into the season that Zeke was going to be horrible? You can just check this board because almost all of us said he was going to suck and were pissed he was signed.

Knowing the above, What are your thoughts on this: Assume we resigned Rico and he is certainly not a great back. Now add a stud OL like Membou or whomever you like. How would our running game look then and Rico is not a stud.

I’m not saying don’t take Jeanty or even Hampton or that they wouldn’t make us a better team. I’m just saying there is more than one way to get there. Are we 100% sure Rico is better than Javonte Williams? And I do think we add a 3rd back to go with him and Sanders and maybe to be on top of the depth chart if we are lucky. I’m not sure if it will be early or late or what, but I guess I’m just in the camp that would love to add a RB but doesn’t feel like we need to force it. I actually think the need at WR is at least as big. Now damn if Jeanty drops to 12 and Burden or Egbuka drops to 44 our choices are probably easy…but…that’s probably a pipe dream.

 

[Manster7588]

I am not OK with another year of running back by committee. It does not work unless you have two studs. And like last year, you wait half the season to settle on a back and be right back looking for a#1 RB again next offseason. No thanks.

I think I prefer committee vs reaching at 12.

 

[Manster7588]

I've said this just as many others have, the draft is a crap shoot, there are no guarantees.

Only draft guarantee is Jerry saying the guy they pick was rated much higher than where they got him.

 

[jarntt]

Question for those of you who want Jeanty really really badly (and I'm not saying I wouldn't take him at 12, I would). Draft value chart basically says picks #12 and #44 gets us to Jax's pick #5 (maybe we throw in a 5th also) which is right in front of the Raiders. Would you do it? I just can't make a case in my mind for doing that. I wish I knew who'd be there at 12 and 44. Maybe in retrospect I would, but I just wouldn't do it if offered. It's too much for me personally.

Next question. Let's say the Raiders pass on him. I don't know if the Jets or Car would take him without trading a current player. So now what if he is still on the board and the Saints are on the clock at 9. I don't see any way he gets past both the Saints and the Bears so he isn't dropping to us IMO. So do you give up pick #12 and #76 (our 1st and 3rd rounder) for #9 and #112 (the Saints 1st and 4th)? That becomes a little more interesting to me. I probably would be ok with that if the team loved him. But now you have to be ok knowing this team will very likely take WR at 44. So you are getting 2 skill position guys and no one else until the 4th round. Dak friendly as it gets

 

[tomodach10]

The good thing is only a few more days of the stupid Kyper and his ilk and those stupid mock drarfts.

 

[tomodach10]

Question for those of you who want Jeanty really really badly (and I'm not saying I wouldn't take him at 12, I would). Draft value chart basically says picks #12 and #44 gets us to Jax's pick #5 (maybe we throw in a 5th also) which is right in front of the Raiders. Would you do it? I just can't make a case in my mind for doing that. I wish I knew who'd be there at 12 and 44. Maybe in retrospect I would, but I just wouldn't do it if offered. It's too much for me personally.

Next question. Let's say the Raiders pass on him. I don't know if the Jets or Car would take him without trading a current player. So now what if he is still on the board and the Saints are on the clock at 9. I don't see any way he gets past both the Saints and the Bears so he isn't dropping to us IMO. So do you give up pick #12 and #76 (our 1st and 3rd rounder) for #9 and #112 (the Saints 1st and 4th)? That becomes a little more interesting to me. I probably would be ok with that if the team loved him. But now you have to be ok knowing this team will very likely take WR at 44. So you are getting 2 skill position guys and no one else until the 4th round. Dak friendly as it gets

No, I would not do that. I would stay at 12 and take Hampton. I would move up in second for Golden if he is there.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Question for those of you who want Jeanty really really badly (and I'm not saying I wouldn't take him at 12, I would). Draft value chart basically says picks #12 and #44 gets us to Jax's pick #5 (maybe we throw in a 5th also) which is right in front of the Raiders. Would you do it? I just can't make a case in my mind for doing that. I wish I knew who'd be there at 12 and 44. Maybe in retrospect I would, but I just wouldn't do it if offered. It's too much for me personally.

Next question. Let's say the Raiders pass on him. I don't know if the Jets or Car would take him without trading a current player. So now what if he is still on the board and the Saints are on the clock at 9. I don't see any way he gets past both the Saints and the Bears so he isn't dropping to us IMO. So do you give up pick #12 and #76 (our 1st and 3rd rounder) for #9 and #112 (the Saints 1st and 4th)? That becomes a little more interesting to me. I probably would be ok with that if the team loved him. But now you have to be ok knowing this team will very likely take WR at 44. So you are getting 2 skill position guys and no one else until the 4th round. Dak friendly as it gets

I would make the trade to get to 5 for DT Mason Graham, but not Jeanty. I would take Jeanty at 12 but not trade up to get him.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I would make the trade to get to 5 for DT Mason Graham, but not Jeanty. I would take Jeanty at 12 but not trade up to get him.

I just hope this FO does not do anything dumb this time.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I dont see us trading up at all.
but if we were to trade up for whoever was a target person. I could see maybe a couple spots like Jarntt 2nd scenario.

Cant see any scenario where we trade up to 5.