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The 2024-2025 NBA Basketball Season

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Went to bed up 20 in the 4th and woke up to a 7 point loss. WTF Wolves!

At one point the Bucks scored 23 straight evidently.

4th quarter collapse. Play in here we come.
 

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3 games tonight that will really impact standings. Heat/Bulls in the East and Lakers/Mavs and Kings/Nuggets in the West. I would expect the Warriors and Clippers to win at home.
 

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Once again finch has no answers.

I did not watch the game.

But it is also pretty unfair to blame the coach every time a team comes from behind.

Yes there are things coaches can do. Using timeouts to break momentum. Make defensive adjustments, sub, etc.

Only fair to blame the coach IMO if they didn’t really do anything listed above to try to adjust.

End of the day, players need to be able to execute. Sometimes the coach tries to adjust and it doesn’t work. That is on the players.
 

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I did not watch the game.

But it is also pretty unfair to blame the coach every time a team comes from behind.

Yes there are things coaches can do. Using timeouts to break momentum. Make defensive adjustments, sub, etc.

Only fair to blame the coach IMO if they didn’t really do anything listed above to try to adjust.

End of the day, players need to be able to execute. Sometimes the coach tries to adjust and it doesn’t work. That is on the players.

Biggest thing i have seen with Finch is he is slow to call TOs to halt runs.
 

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Nothing was said to the ref.

I will say this…

If the player says something, anything, no matter who they are talking to…

That if the ref thinks it is meant for them might cause a T or an ejection….

Then they shouldn’t say it.

Find a better way to express yourself Luka.
 

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I will say this…

If the player says something, anything, no matter who they are talking to…

That if the ref thinks it is meant for them might cause a T or an ejection….

Then they shouldn’t say it.

Find a better way to express yourself Luka.
The fan has been identified and I would imagine is being talked to today by the Thunder. I have always found it ridiculous that a player can have a fan removed from a game though without at least some corroboration though. Luka didn’t do that just my opinion. I also find it ridiculous that these guys can just use any language they want. Back in the day Westbrook was known for telling fans to “get the F up”. That’s right there with children in ear shot. To me this is something the league should care about, but I know most would disagree with me and that is fine.
 
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Like @bksballer89 said...what Vando did is a T every time.

The Lakers lost their composure.

While I think the ejection on Luka was complete bullshit, you're absolutely right, the Lakers lost their cool and it cost them the game.

They can't pull this shit in the playoffs. They still had Lebron and Austin on the floor, and DFS was having a good shooting game too. Take a time out, gather your troops and make a run for it!
 

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While I think the ejection on Luka was complete bullshit, you're absolutely right, the Lakers lost their cool and it cost them the game.

They can't pull this shit in the playoffs. They still had Lebron and Austin on the floor, and DFS was having a good shooting game too. Take a time out, gather your troops and make a run for it!
It cost them a chance at the game, no more than that can be said. Obviously you are right about keeping their composure.
 
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The fan has been identified and I would imagine is being talked to today by the Thunder. I have always found it ridiculous that a player can have a fan removed from a game though without at least some corroboration though. Luka didn’t do that just my opinion. I also find it ridiculous that these guys can just use any language they want. Back in the day Westbrook was known for telling fans to “get the F up”. That’s right there with children in ear shot. To me this is something the league should care about, but I know most would disagree with me and that is fine.

I don't have an issue with players and fans having a bit of trash talk. If you're spending good money to be close enough to the court, a bit of banter between home fans and opposing players is almost expected. As long as it doesn't turn physical or get out of hand ie. racial, sexual etc comments, I LOVE the exchanges.

What isn't cool though is a butthurt ref who is already known to dislike Luka, throw one of the best players in the game out because of a stupid misunderstanding.
 

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The fan has been identified and I would imagine is being talked to today by the Thunder. I have always found it ridiculous that a player can have a fan removed from a game though without at least some corroboration though. Luka didn’t do that just my opinion. I also find it ridiculous that these guys can just use any language they want. Back in the day Westbrook was known for telling fans to “get the F up”. That’s right there with children in ear shot. To me this is something the league should care about, but I know most would disagree with me and that is fine.
But a fan can cuss out, talk shit to a player all game and the player should just take it? I think players talking to fans adds another competitive layer to the game. A lot of greats did it

People are too soft these days.
 

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But a fan can cuss out, talk shit to a player all game and the player should just take it? I think players talking to fans adds another competitive layer to the game. A lot of greats did it

People are too soft these days.
Na that’s not happening in OKC, not the cussing part anyway. I know for a fact the Thunder don’t put up with it from the fans. Some teams do a better job of policing it than others.
 

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I don't have an issue with players and fans having a bit of trash talk. If you're spending good money to be close enough to the court, a bit of banter between home fans and opposing players is almost expected. As long as it doesn't turn physical or get out of hand ie. racial, sexual etc comments, I LOVE the exchanges.

What isn't cool though is a butthurt ref who is already known to dislike Luka, throw one of the best players in the game out because of a stupid misunderstanding.

I am agreeing mostly.

@thunderc made a great point about profanity.

When we were all kids that kind of talk was not acceptable in public.

I am not saying that player should be T’d up any time they curse. That is not necessary.

But if players are interacting with fans?

Trash talk sure. But be creative enough to do it in a way that is respectful of a public audience.

And yeah, if fans are crossing the line like you said? They should be removed.

Buying a ticket doesn’t give people the privilege to say whatever vulgar thing they want.
 

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The fan has been identified and I would imagine is being talked to today by the Thunder. I have always found it ridiculous that a player can have a fan removed from a game though without at least some corroboration though. Luka didn’t do that just my opinion. I also find it ridiculous that these guys can just use any language they want. Back in the day Westbrook was known for telling fans to “get the F up”. That’s right there with children in ear shot. To me this is something the league should care about, but I know most would disagree with me and that is fine.
I understand not wanting children exposed to bad language, but you can't go to a sports venue and expect not to hear it. Fans saying, "What the F", etc... and if you are close enough to actually hear what the players are saying then expect it there as well. If you are that sensitive to what children hear you should not take them to sporting events at all (or even send them to school for that matter).
 

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I will say this…

If the player says something, anything, no matter who they are talking to…

That if the ref thinks it is meant for them might cause a T or an ejection….

Then they shouldn’t say it.

Find a better way to express yourself Luka.

Could've fixed this right as it happened by talking to those involved. Fan was forthcoming when asked later.
 

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I understand not wanting children exposed to bad language, but you can't go to a sports venue and expect not to hear it. Fans saying, "What the F", etc... and if you are close enough to actually hear what the players are saying then expect it there as well. If you are that sensitive to what children hear you should not take them to sporting events at all (or even send them to school for that matter).
We can all aspire to be better and professionals should be no different.
 
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