The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[fightinfunbags]

Well I mean they’d flip Harris for other contracts and a pick

Maybe Phoenix

I don’t see where the Suns can afford to send out the 39 million in cap necessary to take on Harris. I think he could fit well there as their fifth starter but they just can’t make that happen.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I don’t see where the Suns can afford to send out the 39 million in cap necessary to take on Harris. I think he could fit well there as their fifth starter but they just can’t make that happen.

They can't.

They are strapped on what they can do.

 

[fightinfunbags]

That is assuming the Hawks just want picks. They can get a better player or 2 back plus draft picks.

Heck, the Lakers could offer Russell and Hachimura for Murray and Bog plus the '29 1st rounder, a pick swap in '30 and a few 2nd rounders. They get Russell who could be flipped as an expiring contract next season and a solid young player.

Sixers picks are sooner and better. DLo is a garbage player and not a fit around Trae Young. Can you imagine that back court defensively? That would be two of the worst defenders in the NBA being paired together.
Rui is nice but he’s just John Collins Part 2 and he probably isn’t as good as John Collins.

Or if the Lakers are really serious....Reaves, Hachimura, Prince and the aforementioned picks.

I think Reaves is an upgrade over Boggy because he’s more of a two way guy. At the same time, does adding Reaves really change the direction of the Hawks? I would argue that long term in a rebuild that the expiring cap space is better.

Over MM's corpse and a bunch of picks.

You have never understood the value franchises place on expiring contracts in a salary cap league. It’s absolutely a blind spot in every conversation you ever engage in when talking about trades.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I don’t see where the Suns can afford to send out the 39 million in cap necessary to take on Harris. I think he could fit well there as their fifth starter but they just can’t make that happen.

You don't want Nurkic, Allen, Little and Gordon for him?

LOL

 

[fightinfunbags]

But, we don't know what Atlanta wants to do. If they want a bunch of draft picks to do a reset around the trio you mentioned or some players and draft picks to still try and be in the 7-10 range.

Another flaw in your reasoning. You may be the only NBA fan I’ve ever interacted with that would place any value on staying a 7-10 seed. The Hawks are making moves and blowing it up so that they move forward from being exactly what you just described.

 

[fightinfunbags]

You don't want Nurkic, Allen, Little and Gordon for him?

LOL

I don’t think any of those guys could even crack the Sixers playoff rotation except Gordon unless you want to count Nurkic for his 8 minutes a game backing up Embiid.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Another flaw in your reasoning. You may be the only NBA fan I’ve ever interacted with that would place any value on staying a 7-10 seed. The Hawks are making moves and blowing it up so that they move forward from being exactly what you just described.

I never said there was value in staying 7-10. I said Atlanta might want to. AND add picks.

LOL.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I don’t think any of those guys could even crack the Sixers playoff rotation except Gordon unless you want to count Nurkic for his 8 minutes a game backing up Embiid.

That is basically what the Suns could send back.

 

[DJ Fieri]

The bottom line is we dont know what the Hawks are planning to do.

I was just pushing back that other teams can beat what Philly and LA can offer. And LA can offer a better package than Philly.

 

[The Q]

You don't want Nurkic, Allen, Little and Gordon for him?

LOL

I mean I like little but less on a team like the hawks

Allen is expriing

Nurk isn’t ideal but if you’re trading capela he’s fine

 

[The Q]

The bottom line is we dont know what the Hawks are planning to do.

I was just pushing back that other teams can beat what Philly and LA can offer. And LA can offer a better package than Philly.

Maybe

But not if Philly is taking on additional multi year salary

 

[fightinfunbags]

The bottom line is we dont know what the Hawks are planning to do.

I was just pushing back that other teams can beat what Philly and LA can offer. And LA can offer a better package than Philly.

I think it’s worse for a team to plan on being a 7-10 seed. The Lakers deal isn’t better than the Sixers.
1. Sixers have more picks that are better timed and better positioned to offer.
2. Expiring contracts have more value than guys like Reaves, Rui, DLo for them. Expiring deals clear cap for them to add better players that fit around Johnson and Young.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Maybe

But not if Philly is taking on additional multi year salary

Exactly. Sixers can offer 39 million of freed up cap or as much as 57 million of freed cap if the Hawks choose. Extended over years, they can save the Hawks as much as $240 million in future cap. DLo Rui and Reaves provide zero opportunity to clear cap.

 

[thunderc]

He deserved a lot better.

Bulls fans boo late GM Jerry Krause during Ring of Honor ceremony, which brought his widow to tears

www.cbssports.com

 

[The Q]

Exactly. Sixers can offer 39 million of freed up cap or as much as 57 million of freed cap if the Hawks choose. Extended over years, they can save the Hawks as much as $240 million in future cap. DLo Rui and Reaves provide zero opportunity to clear cap.

Reaves contract is fine. He’s not the issue, it’s more taking on both reaves and rui leaves them in the same tough cap position and still needing to move someone’s 8 figure salary for expiring deals

 

[The Q]

I think it’s worse for a team to plan on being a 7-10 seed. The Lakers deal isn’t better than the Sixers.
1. Sixers have more picks that are better timed and better positioned to offer.
2. Expiring contracts have more value than guys like Reaves, Rui, DLo for them. Expiring deals clear cap for them to add better players that fit around Johnson and Young.

The argument about the 2028 clippers pick vs say am I rpo texted 2030 lakers pick…let’s just call those a wash since it’s la and both have proven they can now be fa destinations so they’re total wildcards

Reaves would be the best player realistically on the table the hawks would likely keep beyond this year

But the lakers have more young prospects to add if the hawks liked them (Christie and JHS) which they may prefer than 3 picks all spread out. Young may want out before the clippers pick conveys (it’s a risk, the question is how much)

Do the lakers even have enough matching expiring salary to make it happen like the Philly one?

 

[fightinfunbags]

He deserved a lot better.

Bulls fans boo late GM Jerry Krause during Ring of Honor ceremony, which brought his widow to tears

www.cbssports.com

If Philly fans did this the story would extend for 50 years as the national media piles on with their “Philly fans are garbage” narrative. Meanwhile, Philly has never booed a widow or the memory of man who contributed to hanging 6 banners.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Reaves contract is fine. He’s not the issue, it’s more taking on both reaves and rui leaves them in the same tough cap position and still needing to move someone’s 8 figure salary for expiring deals

Rui is WalMart brand John Collins - a guy they already moved away from. Is Reaves an upgrade for them over Murray? Murray has the better handles and is a better defender. I don’t think Reaves is a bad deal at all. I think he’s a winning player. But this is more same same for Hawks.

 

[fightinfunbags]

The argument about the 2028 clippers pick vs say am I rpo texted 2030 lakers pick…let’s just call those a wash since it’s la and both have proven they can now be fa destinations so they’re total wildcards

Reaves would be the best player realistically on the table the hawks would likely keep beyond this year

But the lakers have more young prospects to add if the hawks liked them (Christie and JHS) which they may prefer than 3 picks all spread out. Young may want out before the clippers pick conveys (it’s a risk, the question is how much)

Do the lakers even have enough matching expiring salary to make it happen like the Philly one?

It seems like Prince is the only guaranteed expiring. Other guys could be if they opted out with their player option.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Trade you Hayes and a 2nd rounder for Theis.

Fuq outta here….lol