2022 NBA Offseason thread

[msgkings322]

All you guys post stuff defending Draymond or minimizing his bad behavior, but none of you guys want him on your team. Man, fuck you guys! Take him from us, please! LOL. If he does get on the Lakers, just keep him away from the young guys.

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Calm your tits.

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah I don’t think Harden played particularly well last night. Wasn’t even one of the 5/6 best on the court last night. Embiid looked disinterested as well. Both guys played like they were just there to get a sweat and a few minutes under their belt.

Or some had an off game. Thought Embiid was fine

 

[msgkings322]

I know you pray every night that Westbrook is gone ASAP, just like I do with Draymond.

Except Westbrook hurts their team and Draymond gets us rings.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Or Harden had an off game.

Could be. But both guys seemed to me that they were just going through the motions.

 

[dtgold88]

Could be. But both guys seemed to me that they were just going through the motions.

Cool...maybe Garland was too but Maxey was really into it?

 

[fightinfunbags]

Cool...maybe Garland was too but Maxey was really into it?

Maxey only has one speed ha. Kid is nuts. You’d love him

 

[shopson67]

Except Westbrook hurts their team and Draymond gets us rings.

Russ is gone soon. Dray has a player option for '23/'24.

 

[msgkings322]

Russ is gone soon. Dray has a player option for '23/'24.

I hope he stays...he said he wants an extension so maybe they will decide not to give him one. I trust whatever this front office does.

 

[msgkings322]

Could be. But both guys seemed to me that they were just going through the motions.

I mean...it's preseason so you're surely correct

 

[tlance]

Every once in a while, there is an organization that does something because it is the right thing to do. But you're right, teams usually tolerate this kind of stuff if the positives outweigh the negatives. I don't think it does anymore with Draymond. His behavior jeopardizes their future.

You are making a really big assumption here.

You assume that the Warriors don’t approve of his antics and leadership style.

Obviously, in a time like this when he crosses the line, there will be a consequence.

But overall, what Draymond brings to the team is a net positive, and positive in a big way.

At some point his play will decline enough that it won’t be.

But you completely fail to see the positive attributes of Draymond and have for quite some time.

And FYI, the future is the present. Once the Curry/Klay/Dray core tenure is up, the youngsters aren’t winning you anything.

A day will come when Kuminga/Wiseman will be more than support players. When it does, it will surely signal the end of the Warrior contention window.

Curry/Klay/Dray is such a special group. It is kind of sad that you don’t appreciate the contributions of all 3.

 

[msgkings322]

Every once in a while, there is an organization that does something because it is the right thing to do. But you're right, teams usually tolerate this kind of stuff if the positives outweigh the negatives. I don't think it does anymore with Draymond. His behavior jeopardizes their future.

The right thing to do is put the best team on the floor to win titles. Draymond isn't murdering people or beating his wife. We're better with him, you're just all kinds of emotional about this and it's kind of weird.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I think it will be Okoro but Wade could make sense if they want someone more like LM (and a stretch 4).

I do think we'll see some of Love with the other big guys....but not to start.

Okoro has to prove he is starter worthy at this point but I wouldn't be surprised if he started if LeVert doesn't workout. Okoro needs to hit open shots to be worthy of that starting spot or they just give him limited minutes but start him.

 

[Robotech]

The right thing to do is put the best team on the floor to win titles. Draymond isn't murdering people or beating his wife. We're better with him, you're just all kinds of emotional about this and it's kind of weird.

I'm making valid points about Draymond. You obviously don't agree with my opinions, but why do you always go there with posters? You routinely say that other people are emotional, which is kinda weird of you to do.

 

[dtgold88]

Maxey only has one speed ha. Kid is nuts. You’d love him

I do like him. On my team or not. Good to know he only outplayed garland because garland didn't really care though.

 

[msgkings322]

I'm making valid points about Draymond.

Yes you are, but 'doing the right thing' implied some moral condemnation (which I suspect is where you're at)

You obviously don't agree with my opinions, but why do you always go there with posters?

Always?

You routinely say that other people are emotional, which is kinda weird of you to do.

On this topic you really are emotional. You think Draymond hurts the team, when all evidence shows he is very important to winning 4 freaking rings. If the FO starts to agree he's not good for the team, he'll be gone then. Before that, you're just emotional.

It's probably not much longer, as he is getting older. Maybe they won't extend him and he'll walk after this year. Maybe instead of letting Wiggins or Poole go it will be Draymond...and that might work.

Whatever they do with him I trust the FO and so should you. They know 1000x more than we do what he's like on the team and how the others feel about him.

 

[dtgold88]

Okoro has to prove he is starter worthy at this point but I wouldn't be surprised if he started if LeVert doesn't workout. Okoro needs to hit open shots to be worthy of that starting spot or they just give him limited minutes but start him.

He needs to be willing to take more shots AND hit open shots.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Or some had an off game. Thought Embiid was fine

Harden after losing the weight still looks slow and old. I don't think anyone is expecting to be that guy that can give you a great game every night but still how much he is making he should better than he did. Harden usually looks nonchalant so difficult to tell if he was half-assing it but it certainly didn't appear to be the case.

Maxey is a freak. Mitchell is a freak. Both those guys can do everything on the court. Garland is going to be a hell of a #2 lol.

A lot of talent was on the floor, two exciting teams.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Actually watching Victor W....if he stays healthy he's a lock for top 25 all time player. And I don't think that's an overreaction.

 

[Robotech]

Yes you are, but 'doing the right thing' implied some moral condemnation (which I suspect is where you're at)

Always?

On this topic you really are emotional. You think Draymond hurts the team, when all evidence shows he is very important to winning 4 freaking rings. If the FO starts to agree he's not good for the team, he'll be gone then. Before that, you're just emotional.

It's probably not much longer, as he is getting older. Maybe they won't extend him and he'll walk after this year. Maybe instead of letting Wiggins or Poole go it will be Draymond...and that might work.

Whatever they do with him I trust the FO and so should you. They know 1000x more than we do what he's like on the team and how the others feel about him.

Always is a figure of speech, and you know that. Plus, I clarified that it is something that you routinely do. Not always, but routinely

Yes, I dislike Draymond because of the numerous incidents of bad behavior, but emotions have nothing to do with the opinion that the Warriors are better off without him moving forward. If the Warriors were to move on from him, many would disagree, but it would be a reasonable business decision by the organization. Opposing view points can both be reasonable.

Unfortunately for people that have my view point, the Warriors are stuck with him right now. That he is still here doesn't tell us much about what the organization is thinking right now. I don't think he has much trade value. He will most likely opt in for next year if he doesn't get an extension this year. I hope they don't extend him unless it is a team friendly deal and corrective actions can be taken regarding his behavior. If he stays, I have no other choice but to be positive that he can change.

 

[msgkings322]

Always is a figure of speech, and you know that. Plus, I clarified that it is something that you routinely do. Not always, but routinely

Yes, I dislike Draymond because of the numerous incidents of bad behavior, but emotions have nothing to do with the opinion that the Warriors are better off without him moving forward. If the Warriors were to move on from him, many would disagree, but it would be a reasonable business decision by the organization. Opposing view points can both be reasonable.

Unfortunately for people that have my view point, the Warriors are stuck with him right now. That he is still here doesn't tell us much about what the organization is thinking right now. I don't think he has much trade value. He will most likely opt in for next year if he doesn't get an extension this year. I hope they don't extend him unless it is a team friendly deal and corrective actions can be taken regarding his behavior. If he stays, I have no other choice but to be positive that he can change.

Bottom line is the last 8 years have made me give complete loyalty to the FO. If they want him gone, I support that. If they want to keep him I support that. And my opinion of his value to the team is obviously higher than yours. Can't complain about anything with this team right now, although I do get that it's what we do, argue and speculate.

I do think people are making way too much of this incident. As has been pointed out, players get into it in practice all the time.