Is Baker Mayfield a Bust?

[DJ]

Baker played well in 2nd half

Yep. The Browns almost choked that one away.

 

[Dude]

Browns are a solid team with or without Baker. They fucked it up a little in off season but pulled of a statement win today.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Browns are a solid team with or without Baker. They fucked it up a little in off season but pulled of a statement win today.

D is legit

Run game legit

A mediocre qb will win 10 games

 

[ElPatron1]

I mean, he did what he had to do to get his team the W. you thinking he should have played D, too?

No he didn’t lol

He is playing at home, against a team with a backup QB and totally shit the bed in the first half including interception and terrible passes. He played better in the 2nd half, but it’s too bad football consists of two half’s…He’s winless in home openers since 2018z

 

[dtgold88]

No he didn’t lol

He is playing at home, against a team with a backup QB and totally shit the bed in the first half including interception and terrible passes. He played better in the 2nd half, but it’s too bad football consists of two half’s…He’s winless in home openers since 2018z

did you watch the game? No doubt had a few bad plays in the first half but when given time the kid played really well. Put his team in position to win at the end and D didn't get it done. Not really debatable.

Browns probably roll today if we had Baker and they had JB.

 

[Dude]

Poor baker he must be steaming.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

did you watch the game? No doubt had a few bad plays in the first half but when given time the kid played really well. Put his team in position to win at the end and D didn't get it done. Not really debatable.

Browns probably roll today if we had Baker and they had JB.

Yep

Baker would have won by 2 TD's

 

[dtgold88]

Yep

Baker would have won by 2 TD's

Easily. doesn't mean he's all that but he is much better than Brissett. Likely he hits the wide open deep passes JB missed.

 

[wilwhite]

Mayfield will outperform Brissett by a pretty wide margin.

Mayfield may be a mediocre NFL starter, but Brissett is a terrible starter.

I was wrong. Brissett and Mayfield are both terrible starters. The rest of the Browns carry them.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I was wrong. Brissett and Mayfield are both terrible starters. The rest of the Browns carry them.

Jacoby has been ok. A good backup. Not who I'd want starting forever or anything. But Baker is very much proving the Browns right.

 

[dtgold88]

I was wrong. Brissett and Mayfield are both terrible starters. The rest of the Browns carry them.

I mean, Baker deserves credit for his great play in 2020 and good play in 2018 but he looks pretty bad now. Brissett for sure is helped by line and run game. He's a solid backup. No more.

Seems like most fans here with no Baker to blame for the loss have turned into Blame the Coach Guy. He deserves some blame for sure but most are blaming him for moves that really ended up helping us.

Meaning, I'd blame him for no runs on last drive and giving up run too soon on previous drive. Many are saying "take the points every time". Do that and at best we get 6. Because we went for it we got a TD and 7. That doesn't even count the one we made from OWN 30 where I'm sure those fans would have ripped him if we didn't get it. Got a score on that one, too.

Tough game all around and many to blame.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

I wanted to believe in Baker but he doesn’t have it

 

[Coily1]

I wanted to believe in Baker but he doesn’t have it

He's a NFL caliber backup / borderline starter. Calling him elite or stud or MVP-quality was the problem, artificially raising expectations. He could still conceivably raise his profile; don't forget that analysts had already given up on guys like Ryan Tannehill and Geno Smith.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

He's a NFL caliber backup / borderline starter. Calling him elite or stud or MVP-quality was the problem, artificially raising expectations. He could still conceivably raise his profile; don't forget that analysts had already given up on guys like Ryan Tannehill and Geno Smith.

Yeah since he was taken #1 it comes with all those lofty expectations but Baker’s ceiling seems to be game manager on a really good football team. Browns had a lot around him.

 

[Coily1]

Yeah since he was taken #1 it comes with all those lofty expectations but Baker’s ceiling seems to be game manager on a really good football team. Browns had a lot around him.

Say what you will about the Browns, they knew what they had (or didn't) in him, by watching him in games and training camps. They overpaid, but not hugely so, on that contract. So they paid him to go away, which is a surefire sign of a mistake. #1 picks don't pan out sometimes. Occasionally they're even busts. As I said, Mayfield will be in the League for awhile, though probably never earning the really big bucks again.

 

[ElPatron1]

Yep

Baker would have won by 2 TD's

Yea right lol

He is a backup QB at best...He isn't tall enough is his major problem

 

[Anointed One]

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Yea right lol

He is a backup QB at best...He isn't tall enough is his major problem

That was a week 1 comment fwiw

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah since he was taken #1 it comes with all those lofty expectations but Baker’s ceiling seems to be game manager on a really good football team. Browns had a lot around him.

His biggest problem was he wanted to be an anti game manager.

 

[dtgold88]

Say what you will about the Browns, they knew what they had (or didn't) in him, by watching him in games and training camps. They overpaid, but not hugely so, on that contract. So they paid him to go away, which is a surefire sign of a mistake. #1 picks don't pan out sometimes. Occasionally they're even busts. As I said, Mayfield will be in the League for awhile, though probably never earning the really big bucks again.

I mean, the kid was coming off a really good season and not like they had a way to replace him if they hadn't picked up his extension.