commanders off season thread

[deanpet21]

Ok, so help with the context please. You are literally claiming that 3 teams will have at least 11 wins in the NFC East. To the best of my knowledge, that has never happened in the NFL.
Can you please rank the following divisions: AFC West, NFC West and NFC East in terms of best divisions. I am struggling to understand your reasoning here as you believe 3 teams in a single division will get to 11 wins.

I said we could get to 11. Where is your record prediction? Where is it? OPf course are not the strongest division in the nfl

 

[deanpet21]

I did not.

Why not?

 

[duke1861]

Why not?

I like to wait until pre-season to make any type of prediction.

If I was forced to make a prediction right here and now with our current roster, I would say 8 wins. I go back and forth between 7 and 8 wins.

 

[deanpet21]

I like to wait until pre-season to make any type of prediction.

If I was forced to make a prediction right here and now with our current roster, I would say 8 wins. I go back and forth between 7 and 8 wins.

Ok. I have us at 4-2 in the division. The other four losses are Tenn, Gb, 49ers, and Cle.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Like twisted sister, eh?

First things first - gotta go 11-5, which is definitely NOT a given.

i dont see 11 wins 9 tops

If the Commies win 11 games, RR wins coach of the year in a runaway.

Fine, I think Wentz is a better QB than Ryan right now. I remember you were talking up Ryan, that is why I posted the poll.

I disagree. Then again, I'm talking short term. I'd take Ryan for the next 2 years over Wentz, but if you told me I had to keep 1 of them for 4 years, I'd go Wentz over Ryan.

 

[deanpet21]

I like to wait until pre-season to make any type of prediction.

If I was forced to make a prediction right here and now with our current roster, I would say 8 wins. I go back and forth between 7 and 8 wins.

This is what chiller wrote about your prediction:

7 wins is a joke and an insult. The redskins did not get worse or stay the same, and they are playing an easier schedule.

Lazy evaluators see 7 wins.

9-8 at the absoulte worst, with lots of injuries.
10-7 is most likely to me.
11-6 is possible.
12-5 if everything -EVERYTHING - breaks right.

 

[duke1861]

This is what chiller wrote about your prediction:

7 wins is a joke and an insult. The redskins did not get worse or stay the same, and they are playing an easier schedule.

Lazy evaluators see 7 wins.

9-8 at the absoulte worst, with lots of injuries.
10-7 is most likely to me.
11-6 is possible.
12-5 if everything -EVERYTHING - breaks right.

Great...I don't care.

This is right in line with most NFL beat writers and oddsmakers. We have done really nothing to improve our defense and have actually gotten weaker regarding depth. The easier schedule topic is overblown as the rest of our division has a weaker schedule as well.

You all seem to think that WSH was the only team that attempted to improve. The NFL doesn't stand still and other teams made more improvements.

 

[chillerdab]

If the Commies win 11 games, RR wins coach of the year in a runaway.


I disagree. Then again, I'm talking short term. I'd take Ryan for the next 2 years over Wentz, but if you told me I had to keep 1 of them for 4 years, I'd go Wentz over Ryan.

I dont see why 11 wins would guarantee RR coach of the year “in a runaway.”

On the other hand if the Mandos win 11 games I dont see how anybody would be unsatisfied with his / the team’s performance.

 

[chillerdab]

The only depth that got weaker - maybe - is Dline depth. They drafted a dude in the second round and signed a dude from buffalo.

They lost Scherff - true. They signed Turner, drafted an olinrman, and resigned Leno.

The only depth that needs to be addressed is lb depth.

 

[skinsdad62]

The only depth that got weaker - maybe - is Dline depth. They drafted a dude in the second round and signed a dude from buffalo.

They lost Scherff - true. They signed Turner, drafted an olinrman, and resigned Leno.

The only depth that needs to be addressed is lb depth.

i dont see how losing a 2x all pro OG makes us better . turner and norvell are good players though

we lost 2 d/lineman and replaced them with lesser talent , doesnt mean they are horrible but lets just acknowledge that

we did nothing at LB

the secondary lost LC and we are hoping a 4th round pick can make up for it

LT and chase are coming off ACL's and most likely wont be what they could be till mid season ( also remember chase was having a crappy season in yr 2 )

our qb will have about 30 snaps in this offense heading into week one in a new offense in game like situations

 

[skinsdad62]

Could be

 

[Stymietee]

Wentz has huge upside for us. skinsdad, sty, and duke will never admit it. Just like writing off rookies and FA's after their first years here. I just don't understand it. Of course it could all fail but there should be optimism going into this season.

@deanpet21 I'm finally understanding your POV. It came to me when you wrote that "Wince has huge upside FOR US!" The key part of that is the "for us" bit.

Lessee if I get your reasoning.

On two other teams with SB aspirations Wince was either bad or not good enough for their goals.

However, if you put him on a team with no such aspirations and are looking to move up from horrendous to terrible then Wince can do that for you. Perhaps he's able to elevate to "bad" and if that's the perspective from which you can see the "huge upside" then YES, I admit it... Wince has a huge upside for us under that circumstance.

 

[Stymietee]

And two different teams have made that same choice on Wentz. Even if you get the shakier Wentz years, I think ya'll have still got an upgrade at QB

This is the most unfortunate part of your post and it speaks to the utter futility of the organization.

Not good enough elsewhere but a significant "upgrade" here says it all.

Perhaps now is a good time for all of us to do that head, chest, shoulder to shoulder crosing thing as we thank Bajeebus for the "upgrade!"

 

[Stymietee]

totally out of context. NFC East has the easiest schedule. So equates to more wins.

It's a relative comparison and not one that supports a predictive win/loss outcome.

Easiest schedule does not equate to more wins.

In fact, I'll bet that every one of our 2022 opponents have circled our team on their schedules as one game that they can win.

 

[deanpet21]

@deanpet21 I'm finally understanding your POV. It came to me when you wrote that "Wince has huge upside FOR US!" The key part of that is the "for us" bit.

Lessee if I get your reasoning.

On two other teams with SB aspirations Wince was either bad or not good enough for their goals.

However, if you put him on a team with no such aspirations and are looking to move up from horrendous to terrible then Wince can do that for you. Perhaps he's able to elevate to "bad" and if that's the perspective from which you can see the "huge upside" then YES, I admit it... Wince has a huge upside for us under that circumstance.

Was his stats bad last year?

 

[Stymietee]

Was his stats bad last year?

Actually no, but his team was not named the "Commanders" either. Why do you ask this question?

 

[deanpet21]

Actually no, but his team was not named the "Commanders" either. Why do you ask this question?

b/c if you erase his name from the stat sheet any team would be happy with those QB numbers. Just like Torey Smith said.

 

[skinsdad62]

Was his stats bad last year?

lets talk about his stats , during the colts 8-2 run last year he never threw for more then 206 yds in a game , so do we go KC on him and say he padded his stats vs weaklings ?

 

[deanpet21]

lets talk about his stats , during the colts 8-2 run last year he never threw for more then 206 yds in a game , so do we go KC on him and say he padded his stats vs weaklings ?

I just saying as a whole. If the does that this year with us and we win 10 games would you complain?

 

[skinsdad62]

b/c if you erase his name from the stat sheet any team would be happy with those QB numbers. Just like Torey Smith said.

if you erased KC 's name from his stats you would be happy with his . you have no core values at all dean , just whatever fits your homer narrative at the time