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I just saying as a whole. If the does that this year with us and we win 10 games would you complain?
just dont sell me on him being more then a bus driver , and KC did the same things and you hated it . what we winning this year with wince is tainted by the 462 % strength of schedule . next year , if we win 10 games , and have to ply a tougher schedule will be a better test

and since , wince has a career 44 -40 record as a starter i suspect he will do well vs the avg or below teams often enough but will struggle vs good to elite because he is an avg , middle of the road bus driver qb who cant carry a football team . now i will grant you he is an improvement over the rickshaw driver we had last season but the result is going to be the same , at best a cup of coffee in the playoffs , and 5-12 the following year

you will tell us how making the playoffs was good for us but we saw that 2 years ago and it did nothing
 

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if wince doesnt take us to a superbowl this year the trade is a failure . it costs too much for a guy who hovers around 500 (44-40) for his career
 

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well i have to think we should have enough guys to compete for the playoffs according to the hype . it has to do with wince
 

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its the wince thing again .
 

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if you erased KC 's name from his stats you would be happy with his . you have no core values at all dean , just whatever fits your homer narrative at the time

What does KC have to do with this? I have core values. You are just a hater.
 

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just dont sell me on him being more then a bus driver , and KC did the same things and you hated it . what we winning this year with wince is tainted by the 462 % strength of schedule . next year , if we win 10 games , and have to ply a tougher schedule will be a better test

and since , wince has a career 44 -40 record as a starter i suspect he will do well vs the avg or below teams often enough but will struggle vs good to elite because he is an avg , middle of the road bus driver qb who cant carry a football team . now i will grant you he is an improvement over the rickshaw driver we had last season but the result is going to be the same , at best a cup of coffee in the playoffs , and 5-12 the following year

you will tell us how making the playoffs was good for us but we saw that 2 years ago and it did nothing

KC wanted to be the highest paid QB in the league and won nothing. You already have your built in excuses if Wentz succeeds this year. Yes making the playoffs is good for this team
 

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if wince doesnt take us to a superbowl this year the trade is a failure . it costs too much for a guy who hovers around 500 (44-40) for his career

This comment is so insane.
 

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b/c if you erase his name from the stat sheet any team would be happy with those QB numbers. Just like Torey Smith said.
I understand where you're going with this, however, if you place his name on the "Commanders" roster right now his numbers are 000/000/000 correct?

Hell if you and the apparently dumb assed Torey Smith could transplant a players numbers from team to team and/or season to season, every player who ever lived at any level would take their best numbers ever and continually use them as actual production.
 

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I understand where you're going with this, however, if you place him name on the "Commanders" roster right now his numbers are 000/000/000 correct?

Hell if you and the apparently dumb assed Torey Smith could transplant a players numbers from team to team and/or season to season, every player who ever lived at any level would take their best numbers ever and continually use them as actual production.

I understand we are a different team. He actually has better offensive weapons here than Indy. Would you agree?
 

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I understand where you're going with this, however, if you place him name on the "Commanders" roster right now his numbers are 000/000/000 correct?

Hell if you and the apparently dumb assed Torey Smith could transplant a players numbers from team to team and/or season to season, every player who ever lived at any level would take their best numbers ever and continually use them as actual production.
If this is the case, we were stupid to not draft Bailey Zappe in the 1st round. If we transfer his numbers from 2021 to 2022, he would throw about 60+ TDs. We simply need to transfer stats of players to 2022 and we should be set.

 

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I understand we are a different team. He actually has better offensive weapons here than Indy. Would you agree?
Nope.
He had Taylor (the best RB in the league) and Frank Reich who is a great offensive mind and play-caller.
 

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Nope.
He had Taylor (the best RB in the league) and Frank Reich who is a great offensive mind and play-caller.

I will give you the RB but WR's I think we are better. So you have us at 7 wins right duke?
 

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I understand we are a different team. He actually has better offensive weapons here than Indy. Would you agree?
Sorry man that has yet to be proven, so at this moment I would not agree with that and neither should you.
 

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What does KC have to do with this? I have core values. You are just a hater.
no you dont , you hated on KC despite his great stats calling them "padded " and yet you bring up wince's stats and say "hey look he is a good qb "

cant have it both ways dean . if your core value is they dont mean anything only wins then you cant give a pass to wince and his stats and 44-40 career record which is what you are doing
 

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Sorry man that has yet to be proven, so at this moment I would not agree with that and neither should you.

IF healthy I believe we have a better WR core.
 

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KC wanted to be the highest paid QB in the league and won nothing. You already have your built in excuses if Wentz succeeds this year. Yes making the playoffs is good for this team
like it was 2 yrs ago ? it had no effect . KC could have been signed / would have signed way cheaper if allen didnt nix it and of course the corruption came into play
 

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no you dont , you hated on KC despite his great stats calling them "padded " and yet you bring up wince's stats and say "hey look he is a good qb "

cant have it both ways dean . if your core value is they dont mean anything only wins then you cant give a pass to wince and his stats and 44-40 career record which is what you are doing

Wrong, I just dont understand why Wentz cant succeed here. Its possible. KC was being talked about as an elite QB b/c of his numbers clearly he is not.
 

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IF healthy I believe we have a better WR core.
This is why people shouldn't take things for granted. Hopefully, you would agree that healthy or not there are any number of things that might go right and an equal number of things that could go wrong with this new union of players and coaches.
 
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