Ben Simmons formally demands trade

[mannyz]

You're right. The Sixers did everything perfectly. All on Ben lol

I did not say they did everything perfect, I said that Ben caused it.

 

[bksballer89]

I did not say they did everything perfect, I said that Ben caused it.

I disagree

 

[fightinfunbags]

I disagree

How did the Sixers cause this? The roots of all of this lie with Simmons.

 

[tlance]

How did the Sixers cause this? The roots of all of this lie with Simmons.

Been over this many times how the 6ers caused this. Still the same reasons.

 

[thunderc]

Been over this many times how the 6ers caused this. Still the same reasons.

And they are still very trivial

 

[Gman]

I think we can all agree that:

• Ben Simmons deserves 57% of the blame
• The '6ers deserve 32% of the blame
• Joe Biden deserves 11% of the blame

Can I get an Amen?

 

[ill]

I think we can all agree that:

• Ben Simmons deserves 57% of the blame
• The '6ers deserve 32% of the blame
• Joe Biden deserves 11% of the blame

Can I get an Amen?

fuck off

 

[Gman]

fuck off

 

[The Q]

I think we can all agree that:

• Ben Simmons deserves 57% of the blame
• The '6ers deserve 32% of the blame
• Joe Biden deserves 11% of the blame

Can I get an Amen?

Pretty close

 

[fightinfunbags]

Been over this many times how the 6ers caused this. Still the same reasons.

You mean the stuff that adds up to about 10-15% of all this? The stuff that is all responsive to actions or things Simmons has said?

 

[fightinfunbags]

Been over this many times how the 6ers caused this. Still the same reasons.

I’m just waiting on a compelling argument for your point of view and unfortunately we’re over 100 pages into a thread I’ve been participating in from the jump and I’ve yet to see it posted where the Sixers are a “root cause” of all this.

 

[tlance]

I’m just waiting on a compelling argument for your point of view and unfortunately we’re over 100 pages into a thread I’ve been participating in from the jump and I’ve yet to see it posted where the Sixers are a “root cause” of all this.

I have laid it out clearly.

I wouldn’t say they are the “cause”. Simmons is the root cause. But their handling and dealing with Simmons has continually escalated the drama at every turn. And the organization has a higher burden of professionalism here. Players act out all the time. The franchise has to play it cool.

Take the Nets handling of Kyrie for example. They clearly aren’t happy. They are docking his pay. But they aren’t fighting with him publicly about the situation. They are giving him space to come back when he is ready.

That could have played out in a much more messy fashion. But the Nets kept it professional. And they were able to maintain their relationship with the player.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I have laid it out clearly.

I wouldn’t say they are the “cause”. Simmons is the root cause. But their handling and dealing with Simmons has continually escalated the drama at every turn. And the organization has a higher burden of professionalism here. Players act out all the time. The franchise has to play it cool.

Take the Nets handling of Kyrie for example. They clearly aren’t happy. They are docking his pay. But they aren’t fighting with him publicly about the situation. They are giving him space to come back when he is ready.

That could have played out in a much more messy fashion. But the Nets kept it professional. And they were able to maintain their relationship with the player.

Makes more sense. I see eye to eye with escalating. I think these recent attempts to press the fines is poking the bear needlessly. I also agree with holding an organization to higher standard. I was just pushing back on the idea that the Sixers caused or created all this. Criticism their way is absolutely warranted. Making them share the majority of the blame or highlighting them as the root of the problem is where I squabble.

 

[Iggloo]

Gman be like:

 

[The Q]

Makes more sense. I see eye to eye with escalating. I think these recent attempts to press the fines is poking the bear needlessly. I also agree with holding an organization to higher standard. I was just pushing back on the idea that the Sixers caused or created all this. Criticism their way is absolutely warranted. Making them share the majority of the blame or highlighting them as the root of the problem is where I squabble.

The sixers didn’t cause it.

They’ve just been dancing around the firing pouring gasoline on it

 

[fightinfunbags]

What if Ben Simmons has already been traded and what’s coming back is a new contract not eligible for deal until Dec 15th or the deal also includes Danny Green going out with Ben, and his contract is also ineligible to deal before that date?

It might explain why it seems like Danny Green is just going through the motions. But also, the theory doesn’t look great when they’re still fining Simmons.

 

[thunderc]

Pretty close

No they can’t do that because Simmons isn’t mentally capable of playing

 

[The Q]

No they can’t do that because Simmons isn’t mentally capable of playing

You’re right. Brandon is at least 14%

 

[The Q]

What if Ben Simmons has already been traded and what’s coming back is a new contract not eligible for deal until Dec 15th or the deal also includes Danny Green going out with Ben, and his contract is also ineligible to deal before that date?

It might explain why it seems like Danny Green is just going through the motions. But also, the theory doesn’t look great when they’re still fining Simmons.

It’s definitely possible.

It’s Cleveland’s best chance for sure

But I doubt Philly wants to wait for Sexton to get healthy

 

[trojanfan12]

I wouldn’t say they are the “cause”. Simmons is the root cause. But their handling and dealing with Simmons has continually escalated the drama at every turn. And the organization has a higher burden of professionalism here. Players act out all the time. The franchise has to play it cool.

Exactly. It's why Embiid saying what he said isn't nearly as bad as what Doc said and the organization not immediately defending him.