Shane's 20 Player Year & Team Draft : CHAT

[Stakesarehigh]

I'm bored so here we go the futility of Detroit draft picks in the last decade

09 Daye (Lawson, Holliday, teague)
10 Monroe (George, Hayward)
11 knight (Kemba, Klay, Kawhi) OUCH
12.drummond finally nailed one but absolutely crushed the 39 pick with Middleton and trade him for Brandon Jennings along with Knight

13. KCP (Adams, McCollum). Not completely awful

14. Lose their draft pick in a Ben Gordon salary dump so they could sign Josh Smith. Draft Spencer Dinwiddie give up on him and he becomes a fringe all star guy

15 Stanley Johnson (Devin Booker, Myles Turner..and I will be honest I wanted Winslow so I hated the pick immediately. Winslow is also a bust.

16 Henry Ellenson. He has basically not suited up

17 Kennard over Donovan Mitchell. Again a total no brainer even then. Bam also went right after

18 traded for Blair Griffin

19. Sekou (too early)

If someone can show me a franchise that missed on that many picks and decisions in the last decade I'd be very surprised.

Even if they hit on a few of those it's a different ballgame.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Way to get Nos riled up this morning, @CitySushi

 

[Shanemansj13]

I'm bored so here we go the futility of Detroit draft picks in the last decade

09 Daye (Lawson, Holliday, teague)
10 Monroe (George, Hayward)
11 knight (Kemba, Klay, Kawhi) OUCH
12.drummond finally nailed one but absolutely crushed the 39 pick with Middleton and trade him for Brandon Jennings along with Knight

13. KCP (Adams, McCollum). Not completely awful

14. Lose their draft pick in a Ben Gordon salary dump so they could sign Josh Smith. Draft Spencer Dinwiddie give up on him and he becomes a fringe all star guy

15 Stanley Johnson (Devin Booker, Myles Turner..and I will be honest I wanted Winslow so I hated the pick immediately. Winslow is also a bust.

16 Henry Ellenson. He has basically not suited up

17 Kennard over Donovan Mitchell. Again a total no brainer even then. Bam also went right after

18 traded for Blair Griffin

19. Sekou (too early)

If someone can show me a franchise that missed on that many picks and decisions in the last decade I'd be very surprised.

Even if they hit on a few of those it's a different ballgame.

Yeah, even just one! Klay, Kemba or Kawhi could have made the difference...but they literally screwed up every pick. Hard to do even just picking out of a hat

 

[Stakesarehigh]

June 23, 2011: Traded by the Minnesota Timberwolves with Donatas Motiejūnas and a 2012 2nd round draft pick (Will Barton was later selected) to the Houston Rockets for Brad Miller, Nikola Mirotić, Chandler Parsons and a 2013 1st round draft pick (Andre Roberson was later selected).


IDK...WTF happened on 6/23/2011 but they got Mirotic, Brad Miller and Parsons and they were all flipped. Got Bojan as well, who was flipped for a 2nd and cash. They traded away the eventually pick where Barton was selected. In the end for Flynn they ended up with cash and 2nd round picks it looked like.

I remember donatas was supposed to be pretty good but he got hurt. But damn that was a haul and they fucked that up lol

 

[Nosferatu]

I'm bored so here we go the futility of Detroit draft picks in the last decade

09 Daye (Lawson, Holliday, teague)
10 Monroe (George, Hayward)
11 knight (Kemba, Klay, Kawhi) OUCH
12.drummond finally nailed one but absolutely crushed the 39 pick with Middleton and trade him for Brandon Jennings along with Knight

13. KCP (Adams, McCollum). Not completely awful

14. Lose their draft pick in a Ben Gordon salary dump so they could sign Josh Smith. Draft Spencer Dinwiddie give up on him and he becomes a fringe all star guy

15 Stanley Johnson (Devin Booker, Myles Turner..and I will be honest I wanted Winslow so I hated the pick immediately. Winslow is also a bust.

16 Henry Ellenson. He has basically not suited up

17 Kennard over Donovan Mitchell. Again a total no brainer even then. Bam also went right after

18 traded for Blair Griffin

19. Sekou (too early)

If someone can show me a franchise that missed on that many picks and decisions in the last decade I'd be very surprised.

Even if they hit on a few of those it's a different ballgame.

Hold my beer!

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I remember donatas was supposed to be pretty good but he got hurt. But damn that was a haul and they fucked that up lol

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dunkin...sota-timberwolves-5-worst-draft-trades/amp/3/

They traded Parsons back for cash, bojan for a second rounder and Mirotic for spare picks
also

He masterfully undid the Flynn draft pick and then totally ruined it lol

Who trades a guy of Parsons caliber for money

 

[Shanemansj13]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dunkin...sota-timberwolves-5-worst-draft-trades/amp/3/

They traded Parsons back for cash, bojan for a second rounder and Mirotic for spare picks
also

He masterfully undid the Flynn draft pick and then totally ruined it lok

Wow

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I should be fair that Parsons was not yet established but still.. trading the 38th pick for cash is pretty crazy.

 

[Nosferatu]

1989 : 1.10 : Poop Richardson
1990 : 1.6 : Felton Spencer
1991 : 1.7 : Luc Longley
1992 : 1.3 : Christian Laettner (15 wins and we get 3rd pick in a two can't miss players draft)
1993 : 1.5 : Isaiah Rider
1994 : 1.4 : Donyell Marshall
1995 : 1.5 : Kevin Garnett
1996 : 1.5 : Ray Allen (Traded him for Crybury who quit on the team)
1997 : 1.10 : Paul Grant (29 career points)
1998 : 1.17 : Rasho Nesterovic
1999 : 1.6 : Wally Szczerbiak
1999 : 1.14 : William Avery
We don't have a number one pick for a few years thanks to the worst commish of all time
2003 : 1.26 : Ndudi Ebi (Yeah, seriously)
2005 : 1.14 : Rashad McCants ( He literally McCAN'T)
2006 : 1.6 : Brandon Roy (Traded for future hall of famer Randy Foye)
2007 : 1.7 : Corey Brewer (LOLZZZ)
2008 : 1.3 : Orange Juice Mayo (Later traded for Kevin Love, someone else who quit on the team)
2009 : Yeah fuck this year!
2010 : 1.4 : Wesley Johnson
2011 : 1.2 : Derrick Williams (Wow, this was a shit pick, played for 6 teams in 6 years)
2013 : 1.9 : Trey Burke (Traded for Shabazz & Dieng) WOO HOO we're flying high now!)
2013 : 1.26 : Andre Roberson (Traded for $8 and a guy named Gentile who never played in the league)
2014 I'm too depressed to continue!

 

[Nosferatu]

They should rename the draft lottery the Timberwolves lottery!

 

[Shanemansj13]

1989 : 1.10 : Poop Richardson
1990 : 1.6 : Felton Spencer
1991 : 1.7 : Luc Longley
1992 : 1.3 : Christian Laettner (15 wins and we get 3rd pick in a two can't miss players draft)
1993 : 1.5 : Isaiah Rider
1994 : 1.4 : Donyell Marshall
1995 : 1.5 : Kevin Garnett
1996 : 1.5 : Ray Allen (Traded him for Crybury who quit on the team)
1997 : 1.10 : Paul Grant (29 career points)
1998 : 1.17 : Rasho Nesterovic
1999 : 1.6 : Wally Szczerbiak
1999 : 1.14 : William Avery
We don't have a number one pick for a few years thanks to the worst commish of all time
2003 : 1.26 : Ndudi Ebi (Yeah, seriously)
2005 : 1.14 : Rashad McCants ( He literally McCAN'T)
2006 : 1.6 : Brandon Roy (Traded for future hall of famer Randy Foye)
2007 : 1.7 : Corey Brewer (LOLZZZ)
2008 : 1.3 : Orange Juice Mayo (Later traded for Kevin Love, someone else who quit on the team)
2009 : Yeah fuck this year!
2010 : 1.4 : Wesley Johnson
2011 : 1.2 : Derrick Williams (Wow, this was a shit pick, played for 6 teams in 6 years)
2013 : 1.9 : Trey Burke (Traded for Shabazz & Dieng) WOO HOO we're flying high now!)
2013 : 1.26 : Andre Roberson (Traded for $8 and a guy named Gentile who never played in the league)
2014 I'm too depressed to continue!

BUT you got 1 out of 25....KG. 4 teams passed on KG

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Phew that's pretty stiff competition. Guess you give the decided edge to the wolves based on historical futility

But the Pistons are trying to get there

 

[Nosferatu]

1992 destroyed the franchise

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Man...Wesley Johnson. That's a terrible pick. And trading Roy. Yikes. The 2011 draft was weird in that everyone had all those bigs going early and the cream of the draft was later.

 

[Shanemansj13]

1992 destroyed the franchise

Yeah that is just bad luck. Laettner isn't a bad pick at 3 with the looks of that draft...just unlucky to not get Shaq or Zo. Who knows at 2 they could have picked Laettner anyway? LOL

 

[Stakesarehigh]

1992 destroyed the franchise

Did they lose the lotto?

 

[Nosferatu]

Did they lose the lotto?

15 wins 3rd pick, Charlotte had 31 wins and got Mourning. NBA Draft lotto is the worst thing in professional sports. Some teams throw the season to get a better pick even with the lottery in place but not the Wolves we really are that bad!

 

[Stakesarehigh]

15 wins 3rd pick, Charlotte had 31 wins and got Mourning. NBA Draft lotto is the worst thing in professional sports. Some teams throw the season to get a better pick even with the lottery in place but not the Wolves we really are that bad!

I think if it wasn't there the tanking would be pretty horrendous. They've had to mess with the odds more after Philly made it an art form

 

[Nosferatu]

Also losing 3 first round picks for the Joe Smith incident is way to harsh a penalty IMO. Especially when you know that team is gonna be picking top 5 every year.

 

[Nosferatu]

I think if it wasn't there the tanking would be pretty horrendous. They've had to mess with the odds more after Philly made it an art form

There's tanking even with the rule and especially in today's game where the players run the league the small market teams literally have no chance. That's the main reason I stopped watching. (I'm going to South Beach)