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[The Derski]

Strange only Packer fans think this would be a bad deal for GB.

Well apparently GnG's wife also thinks it's not a good deal for the Pack.

Strange, you’re retarded. There isn’t a first round pick worth Rodgers for the next 5 years.

for once I’d like every football fan to go back and think about the first round picks they have selected. How many are worth a shit, let alone a hall of famer? How many turn out to be multiple all pro vs bust?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Strange, you’re retarded. There isn’t a first round pick worth Rodgers for the next 5 years.

for once I’d like every football fan to go back and think about the first round picks they have selected. How many are worth a shit, let alone a hall of famer? How many turn out to be multiple all pro vs bust?

Retarted?

First Goo Gobber take a look at this thread and tell me different?

The other issue is that AR isn't a HOF yet. How we just call him a potential HOF which would be accurate.

With the amount of GB cool aid you drink you'll never have to worry about dehydration. Keep slurping.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Strange, you’re retarded. There isn’t a first round pick worth Rodgers for the next 5 years.

for once I’d like every football fan to go back and think about the first round picks they have selected. How many are worth a shit, let alone a hall of famer? How many turn out to be multiple all pro vs bust?

I can totally understand why the Packers wouldn't want to trade him but conversely it would be a huge risk for a team like the browns to take him on also. Right now they have the luxury of not having an expensive qb. That allows them flexibility to add depth and sign extensions.

If Baker is a bust this year they still have ample cap space and could pull the trigger on a move next year. Right now it's too early to draw the line on what he will become.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Retarted?

First Goo Gobber take a look at this thread and tell me different?

The other issue is that AR isn't a HOF yet. How we just call him a potential HOF which would be accurate.

With the amount of GB cool aid you drink you'll never have to worry about dehydration. Keep slurping.

He's definitely a hall of famer

 

[shopson67]

Browns would say no to that.

Packers would do it for the 2 first round picks and probably not factor in Baker too much into the equation.

Packers might do it for the picks, but not until next year's draft. No way are they settling for 2 1st round picks after a Browns season WITH Rodgers.

 

[Mofo]

Rodgers is 36 years old and would handcuff the browns in free agency and hurt their ability to re-sign their own players.

I'd think Baker is still worth a late first rounder at worst and the packers get a few years of cheap qb play and two other first rounders to start the rebuild

I don't see how that's a bad deal for GB.


Not saying Baker ultimately pans out but he's not more a risk than drafting a QB. At least he's shown he can play at the NFL level in spots.

All that said no way I do that deal if I'm Cleveland.

It’s a bad deal for all parties concerned . The Browns need more help than just a QB. With the decline of the Steelers, the Browns proved last season they still aren’t close to ready.

 

[fastforward]

Mayfield is worth at least a 1st and a 3rd. Few QBs are worth 3 1sts plus a 3rd plus a valuable other player. Ironically Rodgers being due just $24M over the next 2 years only increases his significant value. A 2021 1st & 3rd plus 2022 1st & 2nd is likely the ceiling for his value. The Patriots are probably the only team who would be interested.

 

[fastforward]

The Packers could trade Rodgers after the June 1st date without hurting their cap situation. With Rodgers due just $2M this year they'd obviously prefer not to do so.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Retarted?

First Goo Gobber take a look at this thread and tell me different?

The other issue is that AR isn't a HOF yet. How we just call him a potential HOF which would be accurate.

With the amount of GB cool aid you drink you'll never have to worry about dehydration. Keep slurping.

He is already a potential HOF’r...the only way he would already be in the HOF is if he was retired, so I’m not sure how that is an issue. The bigger issue is he is 36 and the Browns would be giving up their future on an older player. Could work out but a lot of risk for a young. You, again, proving how dumb you are.

 

[Shanemansj13]

This thread is extremely hypothetical though. I would give this a 0% of happening, I like hypotheticals that could possibly happen. This is just banter.

 

[dtgold88]

No I don't make this trade.
Baker can still be a top 15-20 QB in this league.
Njoku I really like. Is he a product of that inept Brown system? I think his numbers could be better. 4 TDs a year before getting hurt.
+ two firsts? For an aging prima donna no thanks.


Flip side I could see him being the missing link to a strong Browns run for the next couple seasons. But I'm not rolling those dice. Cleveland has done very well with all the early draft picks they've used over the past few years.

Only way I'd do it was if I thought 2019 was the real Baker and I could get 3-4 great years out of AR.

I think 2018 was the real Baker and AR already going downhill. Njoku a nonissue for me in the deal, but also think he can be a solid TE as he was with adults coaching him, too, in 2018.

 

[dtgold88]

At 36? You want to give up Baker, Njoku and 2 first round picks? GB would do that deal in a millisecond.

They'd have two young QB's, two first round picks the next two years and they'd save about 25 million they can use to upgrade elsewhere.

Hell -- If Cleveland is looking to bail for a proven QB -- give Detroit a call. Please.

Just to be clear, no I wouldn't do it. It was an easy no for me.

 

[dtgold88]

Bad idea for both teams.

Why would the Browns want to relinquish two likely mid-to-high 1st round picks and the Packers want to pay Rodgers a ton of money to play somewhere else all the while being in flux at the most important position in sports?

for 2 first rounders and because they might like baker?

 

[dtgold88]

Two. And this whole question is ridiculous.

Why do Browns fans continually delude themselves into which players they think have value? Baker's an overrated bum- a low tier starter-caliber QB at best. I'm not saying the deal needs to be Myles Garrett, Joe Thomas and 2 1st rounders, but a mid-range TE and crap QB plus picks don't equal a HOF QB with 3 good years left.

I don't know if Rodgers has a no-trade clause in his contract, but I seriously doubt he'd like to finish his career in Cleveland.

GB would do it for the first rounders. Don't be absurd.

 

[dtgold88]

Are you on fucking crack?

I'm not. You?

 

[dtgold88]

This thread is extremely hypothetical though. I would give this a 0% of happening, I like hypotheticals that could possibly happen. This is just banter.

No disagreement there. Ironically, a Browns fan asked me and accused me of not wanting to win because I gave a resounding no to making the deal if the Browns (for reasons most have given).

Hell, even if Baker sucks I still don't do it....if he does we probably don't win many games and can use our 1st to draft a future QB. Now if this was 32 year old AR? Different story.

 

[dtgold88]

Strange, you’re retarded. There isn’t a first round pick worth Rodgers for the next 5 years.

for once I’d like every football fan to go back and think about the first round picks they have selected. How many are worth a shit, let alone a hall of famer? How many turn out to be multiple all pro vs bust?

wow.

Never mind Baker was higher than AR in QBR last season I guess...a season where most acknowledge Baker shit the bed and was coached by an all time awful coach.

 

[dtgold88]

Packers might do it for the picks, but not until next year's draft. No way are they settling for 2 1st round picks after a Browns season WITH Rodgers.

Does this mean Rodgers wont be good the following year? If so, would think they'd be inclined to deal him while they could get something.

FYI, not end all be all but IMO the best stat for a QB is QBR and even in an awful 2019 he was ahead of Rodgers.....with Freddie as his coach.

 

[dtgold88]

It’s a bad deal for all parties concerned . The Browns need more help than just a QB. With the decline of the Steelers, the Browns proved last season they still aren’t close to ready.

Ever heard of Freddie Kitchens?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

wow.

Never mind Baker was higher than AR in QBR last season I guess...a season where most acknowledge Baker shit the bed and was coached by an all time awful coach.

Shhhhhhhh this is the hoop and there will be no ill words of Mr. Rodgers.
Shit I'm starting to think ESPN may own this site.