Best two way player in game today. Jayson Tatum. Ceiling ?

[Shaqdaddy11]

Serious now...

(please don't pay attention to me bullying the troll by proposing an impossible trade that equaled Tatum to ...Kuzma. I did it because I knew that all the brainless in here think of Kuzma being the "king of assets")

The Celtics won't trade Tatum for anything... especially not for Bledsoe after they got Kemba...

They wouldn't even trade Tatum if he was overvalued or if they could move Heyward's contract with him... They are not like the Lakers circus, they aren't trying to buy a title, they have a generative core (like us - the Bucks) on Tatum and Brown and (again like us) are trying to built around it...

My guess is that out of all the rivals we have in the East, the Celtics are the only team which "will be there" contending against us for as long as Giannis career lasts... All the others in the East may come up for a couple of seasons and then ..."back to the abyss"...

Want to try that in a language we can all understand?

 

[flyerhawk]

What you are saying now? Is it that Kuzma doesn't worth as much as a low 1st?
Because in your desperate attempt to insist saying nonesense, it's exactly what you are saying...

Brogdon = 1(low) 1st + 2x2nd

but Bogdanovic = Kuzma (instead of the 1st) + 2x2nd you say is bad...

I guess your IQ "suffers" a bit, doesn't it?

The Bucks weren't in a great position with Brogdan because it was clear they weren't willing to sign him. So instead of losing him for nothing as an RFA they made a deal to get something for him.

That isn't the same situation as the Kings with BB. The Kings most certainly WILL match any offer for BB and demand compensation for him or keep him. Thus they will get more for him than the Bucks got for Brogdan. Assuming that they actually deal him which is far from certain.

You was saying in that proposal that Covington for Bledsoe is bad for the Wolves...

I guess your IQ "suffers" a bit, doesn't it?

Yes that is a bad trade for the Wolves. And if you see what they actually got for Covington you would understand why. They got Malik Beasley, Gomez, and a mid-1st round draft pick. That's better than a mercurial and expensive PG.

The fact that you are constantly trying to trade Bledsoe proves the point on his value.

 

[buckalis]

The Bucks weren't in a great position with Brogdan because it was clear they weren't willing to sign him. So instead of losing him for nothing as an RFA they made a deal to get something for him.

That isn't the same situation as the Kings with BB. The Kings most certainly WILL match any offer for BB and demand compensation for him or keep him. Thus they will get more for him than the Bucks got for Brogdan. Assuming that they actually deal him which is far from certain.






Yes that is a bad trade for the Wolves. And if you see what they actually got for Covington you would understand why. They got Malik Beasley, Gomez, and a mid-1st round draft pick. That's better than a mercurial and expensive PG.

The fact that you are constantly trying to trade Bledsoe proves the point on his value.

The Kings aren't in the same situation?

Beasley and Gomes + a mid-low pick is worst than Bledsoe?

I think we better stop it here... you obviously don't have a clue...

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

I think we better stop it here... you obviously don't have a clue...

 

[tlance]

Serious now...

(please don't pay attention to me bullying the troll by proposing an impossible trade that equaled Tatum to ...Kuzma. I did it because I knew that all the brainless in here think of Kuzma being the "king of assets")

The Celtics won't trade Tatum for anything... especially not for Bledsoe after they got Kemba...

They wouldn't even trade Tatum if he was overvalued or if they could move Heyward's contract with him... They are not like the Lakers circus, they aren't trying to buy a title, they have a generative core (like us - the Bucks) on Tatum and Brown and (again like us) are trying to built around it...

My guess is that out of all the rivals we have in the East, the Celtics are the only team which "will be there" contending against us for as long as Giannis career lasts... All the others in the East may come up for a couple of seasons and then ..."back to the abyss"...

Just because someone calls you out for a bad post it doesn’t make them a troll.

In all honesty, if anyone is a troll here it is you.

 

[flyerhawk]

The Kings aren't in the same situation?

They are not because they aren't in title contention so they aren't going to be forced to make choices like letting BB go like the Bucks had to do with Brodgan.

Beasley and Gomes + a mid-low pick is worst than Bledsoe?[/quote]

Yes because they are cheaper and often more upside. 20 million a year for Bledsoe is not a great deal. It's not terrible but it's not great.

I think we better stop it here... you obviously don't have a clue...

Says the guy who can't lift his Bucks blinders for 3 seconds.

 

[buckalis]

Just because someone calls you out for a bad post it doesn’t make them a troll.

In all honesty, if anyone is a troll here it is you.

What was the "bad post he called me out" dickhead?

I didn't have any post he "called out"... you always make up things, don't you?

Don't you idiot troll?

 

[buckalis]

They are not because they aren't in title contention so they aren't going to be forced to make choices like letting BB go like the Bucks had to do with Brodgan.

They are going to keep him, go into the tax by paying both him and Holmes and be unable to improve the team although they are ranking at the bottom of the league (which makes it far worst situation than the Bucks)... It's what you're saying... right?

Jesus...

Yes because they are cheaper and often more upside. 20 million a year for Bledsoe is not a great deal. It's not terrible but it's not great.

Says the guy who can't lift his Bucks blinders for 3 seconds.

Bledsoe is 15.5M this season and 16.5M next season... A steal!

"More upside?"....really?

As I said before... we better stop this here, you obviously don't have a clue if you can value Bledsoe as much as (or higher???!!!) Beasley + Gomes + a mid-low 1st... Ask your friend T-Lance to back you up on this...

Jesus!

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

right?

Jesus...



Jesus!

 

[Shanemansj13]

Bledsoe.

And??

The Celtics didnt risk trading Tatum for freaking AD...offering Bledsoe and Celtics would laugh in their face lolzz

 

[GNG]

And??

The Celtics didnt risk trading Tatum for freaking AD...offering Bledsoe and Celtics would laugh in their face lolzz

Don't be so sure of that.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Don't be so sure of that.

No I am 100% sure. Like I said, what else are the Bucks offering? The Bucks wouldnt bother offering Bledsoe bc it’s a joke offer 100%

 

[buckalis]

And??

The Celtics didnt risk trading Tatum for freaking AD...offering Bledsoe and Celtics would laugh in their face lolzz

As I said before, the Celtics (and any sensible team - not circus) would never trade an asset like Tatum for any AD, or even Giannis if you want, no matter how much that trade would benefit the team in short term results...

They wouldn't trade him, not because he is better, but because he is "theirs"... he is "one of them", he is their "flag" and are adding more soldiers around their flag...

There are two ways of building a team up:

1. Spend for a circus which has no future ahead in order to buy a title - What I call "the circus way"...

2. Build a strong basement and develop around it - That's a long lasting team that tries to win a title...

Choice goes with culture... Winners try to win, Consumers try to buy...

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

As I said before, the Celtics (and any sensible team - not circus) would never trade an asset like Tatum for any AD, or even Giannis if you want, no matter how much that trade would benefit the team in short term results...

They wouldn't trade him, not because he is better, but because he is "theirs"... he is "one of them", he is their "flag" and are adding more soldiers around their flag...

There are two ways of building a team up:

1. Spend for a circus which has no future ahead in order to buy a title - What I call "the circus way"...

2. Build a strong basement and develop around it - That's a long lasting team that tries to win a title...

Choice goes with culture... Winners try to win, Consumers try to buy...

 

[buckalis]

Don't be so sure of that.

No that's not correct... They wouldn't add a 30 year old PG in their team after they've signed Kemba... More so if it is for Tatum... or if it is for Brown I would dare to say... It is "their core", they wouldn't touch it for anything.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

No that's not correct... They wouldn't add a 30 year old PG in their team after they've signed Kemba... More so if it is for Tatum... or if it is for Brown I would dare to say... It is "their core", they wouldn't touch it for anything.

He did, didn't he?

I guess then, if Giannis doesn't go to the Lakers you'll be proved the utter badge of morons in here and then anybody can call you morons, stupid, dickheads, shitfaces, shitbrains, assholes, deepshits and all other you'll have earned...... isn't it?

Ehh amigo? One has earned the right then to call you "fucking hombre"... hasn't he?

Isn't it so cabrόn?

 

[buckalis]

Bledsoe.

Now, as far as Bledsoe is concerned, I believe that at some point we will look to gradually upgrade piece by piece three out of our main core six players who get the most of minutes (Giannis, Khris, Donte, Bledsoe, Lopez & Hill) and we will move the most aging ones in that order: 1st Bledsoe, 2nd Lopez, 3rd Hill...

But I'm not sure if to move Bledsoe, we'll do it this summer, or the next one. Much will depend on the results this season... If we win the title, then Giannis (who is surely to be called in an after season meeting so that he approves whatever will the GM and the coach will suggest) may decide to keep the TOP-6 intact (so that there will be a re-run) and only work on the depth, but keeping an eye on the future and then refresh the top-6 (by replacing only one) a season later.

If however we don't win the title this season, then Bledsoe should go this summer and there will be upgrades in both the starting roster as well as the depth...

In any case, if Bledsoe will be moved, it will be during the off-season, not during mid-season, therefore if Bledsoe isn't moved this summer, then don't expect him to be traded later...

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

If however we don't win the title this season, then Bledsoe goes this summer and there will be upgrades in both the starting roster as well as the depth...

Yep and Giannis comes to the Lakers

 

[msgkings322]

Bledsoe.

Sure they could offer him, if they enjoy being laughed at and hung up on

 

[msgkings322]

Don't be so sure of that.

Why not?