The committee experiment failed

[dtgold88]

I wouldn't go that far. But you're awfully dug in and seem to be completely discounting any form of playoff expansion and keep throwing out arguments that are fairly easily debunked or at least fixable.

Besides, I think it's about you being a commie who is against more football. lol

Really does seem to be a theme among the Anti 8 Crew. While most who prefer 8 wont be terribly disappointed if things remain as they are, just prefer expansion.

 

[dtgold88]

^^ Typical Rivals poster thinks they can make up whatever they want and call it truth without any reality involved.

you mean like someone saying in the CFP era teams schedule weaker but cannot come up with 1 team to support this claim as Wizard has done?

 

[dtgold88]

Like i said in an earlier post. Standardize schedules, Ensure divisions play cross divisional opponents more than once a decade, maybe even do a rotating conference vs conference where all OOC games for one conference is against another and they rotate yearly. Address the issues that make schedules so unbalanced and difficult to see who is better and whether or not a conference is subjectively crappy or objectively crappy. Start there, fix that first, otherwise we'll just have these issues and more undeserving teams in for all the marbles

Agree with all of that....though with so many teams and so few OOc matchups it's gonna be tough to accomplish the latter. Though the other ideas will help in that area.

 

[NU_FTW]

^^ More typical Rivals fantasy. Making up things to fit their agenda without any supporting evidence.

Like someone making the absolutely retarded claim "in the CFP era teams schedule weaker" even though nobody ever said that, not once, and the little retard cant even find a quote of it because it doesnt exist.

 

[dtgold88]

I gave you alternatives. I simply live in reality. The things that would have to change aren't going to happen. So it's disingenuous to say any of us are entirely against change just because we are firmly against the changes proposed here.

How about taking OOC scheduling out of the hands of the teams with key exceptions? Maybe 2 done by lottery unless you have a top flight rivalry that can count as one like fsu/uf. Fuck ND. Join a conf or forget about playoffs. Get rid off ccg and expand to 13 reg session games. That adds more football right? BUT you have to play at least 9 balanced games from your conference to qualify for the post season. Gives room for 10 to 12 team leagues if you want flexibility.

Even with all of that I still don't see a need for more than 4, but I'd have a lot less problems. Going to balanced schedules and forcing good OOC through some form of rule charges does way more to fix the actual issues in the game today than trying to expand the playoffs with auto bids from this broken ccg system.

One addresses the problem, the other makes those issues worse.

Love the ideas in the 2nd paragraph.

Also don't think we "need" expansion. Just my preference.

 

[dtgold88]

^^ More typical Rivals fantasy. Making up things to fit their agenda without any supporting evidence.

Like someone making the absolutely retarded claim "in the CFP era teams schedule weaker" even though nobody ever said that, not once, and the little retard cant even find a quote of it because it doesnt exist.

wizard has made the claim and double and tripled down on it.

 

[NU_FTW]

^^ More Rivals fantasy, without quotes, just making things up then demanding someone defend the position they never took, absolutely ridiculous.

 

[WizardHawk]

sure....

you - "teams are scheduling weaker now with the CFP"
me - "great, tell me one team who is scheduling consistently weaker"
you -

You have yet to do your own homework to present something to counter. I spelled it out to you clearly.

I've known tf12 for many years. My comment was directed to someone I respect even when we differ that knows I don't hide.

 

[dtgold88]

^^ More typical Rivals fantasy. Making up things to fit their agenda without any supporting evidence.

Like someone making the absolutely retarded claim "in the CFP era teams schedule weaker" even though nobody ever said that, not once, and the little retard cant even find a quote of it because it doesnt exist.

post 581 -"And I'm telling you that teams ducking playing decent OOC schedules are for sure a problem. "

asked to produce one such team and we are still left at none. want to help him?

 

[dtgold88]

You have yet to do your own homework to present something to counter. I spelled it out to you clearly.

I've known tf12 for many years. My comment was directed to someone I respect even when we differ that knows I don't hide.

Yep....and you've known me a week and you are already hiding when asked a simple direct question.

But excellent deflection.

 

[NU_FTW]

^^ Retarded Rivals Poster doesnt know how to quote properly to include context, Typical.

 

[WizardHawk]

you mean like someone saying in the CFP era teams schedule weaker but cannot come up with 1 team to support this claim as Wizard has done?

I gave you supporting articles, you chose to dismiss them and provided none of your own. Not one.

Where are all the articles claiming we are at the best we've ever been with OOC matchups in the CFP.

You won't back your words up because you can't. And you know it.

 

[WizardHawk]

Yep....and you've known me a week and you are already hiding when asked a simple direct question.

But excellent deflection.

Says the guy who refuses to support his own claim while claiming others are doing the same.

Back your claims up. Go ahead.

 

[olympicoscar]

I hear ya.....but those kids camp out overnight to get seats for those battles for seeding.

True, but let me ask you this? Do you think the NCAA and the universities would ever schedule the top 4 teams in the polls to open the football season to play each other, and then have the winners play each other? 3 teams with at least one loss. Nada.

 

[volbound2002]

I had heard that they had run the BCS formula for all the playoff committee teams over the years and the BCS was virtually identical to what the committee had chosen. I don’t know how accurate that statement is, but I have heard it a few times.

What is the BCS formula? They still used and called it the "formula" after 2004 but it was only 15-20% computers and 80% human bias.

 

[Moab]

Every time I see this thread title I want to slap OD. Mostly because I just wish he'd tell himself the truth and and change it to Oregon Failed. They had it right in front of them, just beat ASU at their house and they were in. Just show up and don't shit yourselves...no poop Herberts for 3 minutes of that game he shit himself and they're in. Just handle your business and you'll be there to take your beat down in the playoffs...nope...they can't do that for our little buddy...they have to fuck him over by pissing down their legs and leave him to dreaming of new scenarios where they get in...hell, he didn't even do that right, he went straight to blaming the system.. Sad, very, very sad.

 

[dtgold88]

I gave you supporting articles, you chose to dismiss them and provided none of your own. Not one.

Where are all the articles claiming we are at the best we've ever been with OOC matchups in the CFP.

You won't back your words up because you can't. And you know it.

In fact I did reply to the articles. Seems clear you didn't even read them and I agreed with certain aspects of them.

But still not one team to support your own comment. Even went so far as yo say I needed to disprove it as opposed to just naming 1 team.

 

[dtgold88]

^^ More typical Rivals fantasy. Making up things to fit their agenda without any supporting evidence.

Like someone making the absolutely retarded claim "in the CFP era teams schedule weaker" even though nobody ever said that, not once, and the little retard cant even find a quote of it because it doesnt exist.

I agreed with your comment.

Ya gotta love this forum.

 

[dtgold88]

^^ More Rivals fantasy, without quotes, just making things up then demanding someone defend the position they never took, absolutely ridiculous.

This was, in fact, an exact quote from post 581.....

"And I'm telling you that teams ducking playing decent OOC schedules are for sure a problem."

when asked to name one team that considers itself a contender who is ducking teams we are still at zero.

 

[dtgold88]

Says the guy who refuses to support his own claim while claiming others are doing the same.

Back your claims up. Go ahead.

which claim would you like me to back up?

Here is your..."And I'm telling you that teams ducking playing decent OOC schedules are for sure a problem."

Name a team that's ducking decent OOC schedules. To quote Harold Ramos in Stripes (still)..."that's none".